Nvme SSD on 4th gen intel

[Ryan Omahen]

Does anyone know if I use a m.2 nvme ssd in a m.2nvme to pcie adapter will this work on a 4th gen intel system

 

edit: specs for this system 

motherboard:asrock b85m-gl (doesn't have m.2 slots)

cpu intel i5 4570

ram: 16gb ddr3

 

edit: i plan to use this as the only drive in the system, so t specify i need to know if its bootable

[Fasauceome]

Yes, but there are also motherboards with M.2 slots that also work fine 

 

What is the intended purpose of the SSD?

[Jurrunio]

boards for 4th gen can be natively compatible with NVMe SSDs, but you're not giving remotely enough information here

[Ryan Omahen]

25 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Yes, but there are also motherboards with M.2 slots that also work fine 

 

What is the intended purpose of the SSD?

specs for this system 

motherboard:asrock b85m-gl (doesn't have m.2 slots)

cpu intel i5 4570

ram: 16gb ddr3

 

 i plan to use this as the only drive in the system, so t specify i need to know if its bootable

[Ryan Omahen]

25 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

boards for 4th gen can be natively compatible with NVMe SSDs, but you're not giving remotely enough information here

specs for this system 

motherboard:asrock b85m-gl (doesn't have m.2 slots)

cpu intel i5 4570

ram: 16gb ddr3

 

 i plan to use this as the only drive in the system, so t specify i need to know if its bootable

 

 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Ryan Omahen said:

i plan to use this as the only drive in the system, so t specify i need to know if its bootable

Don't bother with all the extra effort just for a boot drive, there's not even a speed benefit. Use a cheaper SATA SSD instead.

[Ryan Omahen]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

Don't bother with all the extra effort just for a boot drive, there's not even a speed benefit. Use a cheaper SATA SSD instead.

The reason i'm considering it is a tiny system with little room so an nvme drive would be best, and i may have an extra nvme drive to use when i upgrade the one in my main pc

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Ryan Omahen said:

The reason i'm considering it is a tiny system with little room so an nvme drive would be best, and i may have an extra nvme drive to use when i upgrade the one in my main pc

Ok but using a PCIe slot defeats the purpose of an m.2 SSD being tiny so what's the point exactly?

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, Ryan Omahen said:

specs for this system 

motherboard:asrock b85m-gl (doesn't have m.2 slots)

cpu intel i5 4570

ram: 16gb ddr3

 

 i plan to use this as the only drive in the system, so t specify i need to know if its bootable

 

 

maybe, cheaper boards may not be programmed (even if it's actually possible) to boot from PCIe storage. That said SATA SSD will do the same job with certainity, so no reason to risk it.

 

2 minutes ago, Ryan Omahen said:

The reason i'm considering it is a tiny system with little room so an nvme drive would be best, and i may have an extra nvme drive to use when i upgrade the one in my main pc

have you even considered prices? You could also make 2.5" SATA SSDs smaller by removing their shell, though you'd have to make sure it doesnt touch anything that may cause a short afterwards.

 

Also I dont think an mATX case wont have space for a 2.5" drive

[Ryan Omahen]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Ok but using a PCIe slot defeats the purpose of an m.2 SSD being tiny so what's the point exactly?

just trust me on this using a pcie slot is better that using velcro to attach a regular ssd somewhere else in the case since the way i have the system there is no drive bay or anything like that, also i want to avoid using extra wires in the tiny case

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Ryan Omahen said:

just trust me on this using a pcie slot is better that using velcro to attach a regular ssd somewhere else in the case since the way i have the system there is no drive bay or anything like that, also i want to avoid using extra wires in the tiny case

will this system have a graphics card?

[Ryan Omahen]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

maybe, cheaper boards may not be programmed (even if it's actually possible) to boot from PCIe storage. That said SATA SSD will do the same job with certainity, so no reason to risk it.

 

have you even considered prices? You could also make 2.5" SATA SSDs smaller by removing their shell, though you'd have to make sure it doesnt touch anything that may cause a short afterwards.

 

Also I dont think an mATX case wont have space for a 2.5" drive

i actually modded the case, its an enermax steelwing case, and i cut out the spot where a 2.5" ssd would mount because i was originally planning on putting a custom watercooled loop in it and needed space for the rad, but i changed plans and now am gonna use it for this pc

[Ryan Omahen]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

will this system have a graphics card?

no, not gonna be a gaming pc

[SPCQC]

On 12/2/2019 at 9:25 PM, Fasauceome said:

Don't bother with all the extra effort just for a boot drive, there's not even a speed benefit. Use a cheaper SATA SSD instead.

How come an NVME Drive on a PCIe Slot is same speed as a Sata SSD?

[Fasauceome]

23 minutes ago, SPCQC said:

How come an NVME Drive on a PCIe Slot is same speed as a Sata SSD?

NVMe drives only flex their muscles when huge files are being handled. Little things like windows, Google chrome, and the vast majority of games see absolutely no benefit from NVMe, and in the games that do see benefit, it's a second or two on a loading screen maybe.

 

Not to mention, not all NVMe drives are created equal, and judging price to performance can be difficult especially at the budget end 

[SPCQC]

On 2/20/2020 at 5:57 PM, Fasauceome said:

NVMe drives only flex their muscles when huge files are being handled. Little things like windows, Google chrome, and the vast majority of games see absolutely no benefit from NVMe, and in the games that do see benefit, it's a second or two on a loading screen maybe.

 

Not to mention, not all NVMe drives are created equal, and judging price to performance can be difficult especially at the budget end 

Thanks!

[cryman]

You can use an NVME drive via the PCI-E reduction, no idea if your board natively supports it, but you can always modify the bios, it is not that difficult, but there is a possibility you might brick your MOBO - check this Win-Raid forum: https://www.win-raid.com/t871f50-HowTo-Get-full-NVMe-support-for-all-Systems-with-an-AMI-UEFI-BIOS.html

Best regards. :)