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Wilh_Schott

Need advice on New Desktop Build (Gaming / Workstation)

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Posted · Original PosterOP

  Hello and thank you in advance for any comments/critiques/criticisms, apologies in advance for the lengthy post. I am currently running on a 6 year old Aurora R4 of which (I believe) the graphics card is dying and as it is, the whole system is due for an upgrade. The following software are mainly what I use and / or will be using:

 

For Work

- Blender 3D (Modeling, Rendering, Rigging, Animation), Krita / GIMP 2.+ (Drawing / Animation), Inkscape (Design), CorelCAD 2014 (planning to upgrade soon), Unreal Engine (4+), Atom / Eclipse (programing)

 

For Play

- Elder Scrolls Online (In small bursts, sometimes a few hours), Minecraft, Elite Dangerous (rarely), Yakuza 0, some KOG games (Elsword, Closers), Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls 3/4/5/etc, a bunch of random 2D indie titles (Shovel Knight, Epic Battle Fantasy, and the like). I rarely play anything intensive like FPS's and never play on High/Ultra settings (not a 4k kinda guy).

 

  I currently use a Dell monitor that came with the PC and a LCD 32" Samsung TV as my primary monitors. I also have a XP-Pen Artist 22E Pro digital drawing monitor, which I have not been able to use without extreme difficulty (hardware limitations, graphics card struggles with more than 2 screens and is finicky about that as is). I am also looking to buy a VR headset (probably Oculus Rift) sometime next year to experiment with for both gaming and development. As such I have boiled down my choices to these two sites and builds per my research both here and around the net (and of course through the LTT videos on these parts). My budget is US $1500 - $1800, with a max of $2000~ish. I have tried to keep the builds similar in parts within the limited offerings of the sites as I have no confidence in my ability to build a PC myself and piece-mealing would be more costly in the long run (limited funds) as opposed to a monthly payment plan. I am trying to purchase during the Black Friday Sales that are currently running (at time of this writing). There are concerns about swapping from old to new hardware and compatibility questions which I will get to in a moment.

 

Build #1: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1LVH6U     Build #2:  https://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-Ryzen-3rd-Gen-Starter/W/802137

 

  My primary concerns with the two builds are 1) Motherboards: are the selected motherboards optimized for the Ryzen 3rd Gen 7 3700X CPU and if not which would be better; 2) SSD: is the selected SSDs the correct type or should I chose another format for optimal use (as OS / core file handler), also unsure of how the "Combo Drive" differs from separate selection (are they linked parallel into each other like an undefined RAID?); 3) What is the difference between "Primary Hard Drive" and "Data Hard Drive" or is that a misnomer on part of the configure?; 4) GPUs: according to my understanding, linking the dual GPUs reduces performance across the board due to syncing issues, but I am unsure how they will operate separately, I would like to reduce stress on them by placing my primary monitors on GPU 'A' and my drawing monitor and/or VR on GPU 'B', but still be able to use both for 3D/2D rendering.

 

  My secondary concern is transferring my hard drive/files from the old PC to the new one, since the old PC is an Alienware proprietary, I am not sure if I can transfer the Windows to the new hardware and cleanup the old drivers without corrupting or overwriting the new proprietary softwares (Corsair, etc). The version i have has a fully licensed version of Office from back when I got it as a Windows 8.1 while in school, and I would hope to preserve that if possible, much less not need to try and reinstall EVERYTHING again. If anyone knows a reliable way to preserve it, whether through the Windows activation account - or - at the very least somehow copying all the existing software and files to the new PC (without fowling up the registry refs or something) it would be most appreciated. Otherwise, any further advice on the hardware selections would be most helpful. Thank you and good luck to you in all your endeavors!

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2 hours ago, Wilh_Schott said:

For Work

- Blender 3D (Modeling, Rendering, Rigging, Animation), Krita / GIMP 2.+ (Drawing / Animation), Inkscape (Design), CorelCAD 2014 (planning to upgrade soon), Unreal Engine (4+), Atom / Eclipse (programing)

 

For Play

- Elder Scrolls Online (In small bursts, sometimes a few hours), Minecraft, Elite Dangerous (rarely), Yakuza 0, some KOG games (Elsword, Closers), Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls 3/4/5/etc, a bunch of random 2D indie titles (Shovel Knight, Epic Battle Fantasy, and the like). I rarely play anything intensive like FPS's and never play on High/Ultra settings (not a 4k kinda guy).

Hello,

 

You should look at something like that instead :

 

 

Watch some tutorials online, it's easy to build a computer and will save some money too :) 

 

2 hours ago, Wilh_Schott said:

1) Motherboards: are the selected motherboards optimized for the Ryzen 3rd Gen 7 3700X CPU and if not which would be better; 2) SSD: is the selected SSDs the correct type or should I chose another format for optimal use (as OS / core file handler), also unsure of how the "Combo Drive" differs from separate selection (are they linked parallel into each other like an undefined RAID?); 3) What is the difference between "Primary Hard Drive" and "Data Hard Drive" or is that a misnomer on part of the configure?; 4) GPUs: according to my understanding, linking the dual GPUs reduces performance across the board due to syncing issues, but I am unsure how they will operate separately, I would like to reduce stress on them by placing my primary monitors on GPU 'A' and my drawing monitor and/or VR on GPU 'B', but still be able to use both for 3D/2D rendering.

1) The MSI B450 MAX is Zen 2 ready and a really good motherboard, you will be able to OC if needed (though buy a better CPU cooler in that case like the Dark Rock 4 or NH U14S).

 

2) The SSD I've included is fast, almost like a Samsung 970 Pro but for less.

 

3) Primary Hard Drive is the Windows drive while the Data Hard Drive is the storage.

 

4) The 2070S is a good value for blender and a really good GPU for gaming (1440p). If I'm not mistaken Nvidia is better for blender compared to AMD because of Cuda, and AMD is better than Intel for blender because of higher cores and HT.

 

2 hours ago, Wilh_Schott said:

My secondary concern is transferring my hard drive/files from the old PC to the new one, since the old PC is an Alienware proprietary, I am not sure if I can transfer the Windows to the new hardware and cleanup the old drivers without corrupting or overwriting the new proprietary softwares (Corsair, etc). The version i have has a fully licensed version of Office from back when I got it as a Windows 8.1 while in school, and I would hope to preserve that if possible, much less not need to try and reinstall EVERYTHING again. If anyone knows a reliable way to preserve it, whether through the Windows activation account - or - at the very least somehow copying all the existing software and files to the new PC (without fowling up the registry refs or something) it would be most appreciated. Otherwise, any further advice on the hardware selections would be most helpful. Thank you and good luck to you in all your endeavors!

A clean instal will be better, you can buy W10 key for 10$ (eBay etc). You should be able to activate Office on another computer too if you use your Windows activation account.


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My computer

CPU : I7-8700k  4,7GHz 1,275v

CPU cooler : Noctua NH-U14S

GPU : Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX Vega 64

Motherboard : Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra

RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3466 MHz CL16

SSD : Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2,5" + Sabrent Rocket 1TB M.2

HDD : Seagate BarraCuda 4TB 3,5" 5400RPM

Case : Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S Black 

PSU : Corsair HX Platinum 850W

Others : Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap x3 top exhaust

Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap x3 front intake, x1 rear exhaust, x1 on the CPU cooler

Noctua NA-HC6 chromax.black on the CPU cooler

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Wife Computer

CPU : R5 3600 4,2GHz 1,33v

CPU cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition

GPU : Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB

Motherboard : MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX

RAM : 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport AT 3200MHz CL16

SSD : Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2,5"

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM

Case : Fractal Design Define C TG

PSU : Corsair TXM 550W

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Thank you Plouffe for your reply. After playing around with the PartPicker I think I've settled into something that will work for me, very much in line with the setup you recommended. I'm still unsure about trying to run 3 monitors off of the one GPU, with the possible future addition of VR, but only time will tell. It is definitely a more robust system now than what I had previously picked out, and I thank you for the reminder about the CUDA cores for use with Blender. Thank you again for your help!

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9 hours ago, Wilh_Schott said:

Thank you Plouffe for your reply. After playing around with the PartPicker I think I've settled into something that will work for me, very much in line with the setup you recommended. I'm still unsure about trying to run 3 monitors off of the one GPU, with the possible future addition of VR, but only time will tell. It is definitely a more robust system now than what I had previously picked out, and I thank you for the reminder about the CUDA cores for use with Blender. Thank you again for your help!

It will run 3 monitors with no problems just not a game on the 3 at once though :P


Don't forget to quote (arrow bottom left of the message) or use name tag (@name) for us to see your answer.

 

 

Spoiler

My computer

CPU : I7-8700k  4,7GHz 1,275v

CPU cooler : Noctua NH-U14S

GPU : Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX Vega 64

Motherboard : Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra

RAM : 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3466 MHz CL16

SSD : Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2,5" + Sabrent Rocket 1TB M.2

HDD : Seagate BarraCuda 4TB 3,5" 5400RPM

Case : Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S Black 

PSU : Corsair HX Platinum 850W

Others : Noctua NF-F12 PWM chromax.black.swap x3 top exhaust

Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap x3 front intake, x1 rear exhaust, x1 on the CPU cooler

Noctua NA-HC6 chromax.black on the CPU cooler

Spoiler

Wife Computer

CPU : R5 3600 4,2GHz 1,33v

CPU cooler : Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition

GPU : Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 580 8GB

Motherboard : MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX

RAM : 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport AT 3200MHz CL16

SSD : Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250 GB 2,5"

HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM

Case : Fractal Design Define C TG

PSU : Corsair TXM 550W

 

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