Want to make a server to host games, could you guys help me make sure the parts are compatible

[AngryBeaver]

57 minutes ago, TechCat25 said:

So I am thinking about building a server and have all the parts chosen out now I just need to make sure they are compatible because servers don't come cheap,

here are the parts:

MotherBoard : SUPERMICRO MBD-X11SSL-F-O Micro ATX Server Motherboard LGA 1151 Intel C232

Controller Raid Card : SIIG SC-SA0R11-S1 PCI-Express 2.0 x2 Low Profile Ready SATA III (6.0Gb/s) 4-Port Hybrid RAID Controller Card

Rackmount : Rosewill RSV-R4100 - 4U Rackmount Server Case / Chassis - 8 Internal Bays, 2 Included Cooling Fans

Server cabinet : Rosewill RSWM-12U001 12U 450mm Deep Single Section Wall Cabinet

HDD storage : Seagate 250GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive

Power supply : EVGA 450 BR 100-BR-0450-K1 450W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Non-Modular Active PFC Power Supply

CPU : Intel Xeon E5649 SLBZ8 6-Core 2.53GHz 12MB LGA 1366 Processor

RAM : KINGSTON TECHNOLOGY DT & NOTEBOOKS KCP426NS8/8 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ MODULE

CPU Cooler : Intel Passive Heat-Sink AUPCWPBTP

pls reply

kind regards

TechCat25

What game are you wanting to host, how many players, and how many simultaneous servers.

 

Depending on the game, players, and number of servers the needs can be drastically different.

[TechCat25]

Just now, AngryBeaver said:

What game are you wanting to host, how many players, and how many simultaneous servers.

 

Depending on the game, players, and number of servers the needs can be drastically different.

Rust (if you don't know it just search it, it should be the first thing to pop up) 50 to 100 player (hopefully) on average, and for now just on server

[Senzelian]

3 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Was just reading a reddit post, although a few years old now, that mentions 25Mb/s of upload and download for a server of 100 people. I'd be curious to see wired speed from the router but I doubt it's going to increase upload by a ton.

Might be the bare minimum it requires. Did they mention the game they were hosting? I could imagine that loading objects in a sandbox title require a bit more bandwidth than usual.

 

I made bad experiences with anything below 1Mbit/s. That's why I'm a bit careful with that.

[Lurick]

2 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

Might be the bare minimum it requires. Did they mention the game they were hosting? I could imagine that loading objects in a sandbox title require a bit more bandwidth than usual.

 

I made bad experiences with anything below 1Mbit/s. That's why I'm a bit careful with that.

It just mentioned Rust as the game, it doesn't seem to need a lot of upload/download speed but again these are old discussions, not sure if the game has changed a lot since then and needs more bandwidth per player now.

 

 

Edit:

One thing I REALLY need to emphasis to OP is the risk of getting DDOSed is probably going to be pretty high hosting a 100+ player server and hosting it on a home connection means that once someone decides to DDOS you, you're down until they stop or you change the IP and then it's wash, rinse, repeat. For some friends it's fine but for tons of people who can get mad and try to take revenge, hosting it elsewhere is best since they usually offer DDOS protection. Additionally, cloudflare is NOT an option unless you're willing to pay thousands a month for game server port protection.

[Windows7ge]

26 minutes ago, TechCat25 said:

If I had to make a new list my budget would be 1000 - 1500 SGD

So anywhere from $750USD~$1,100USD. That's a sizable budget for what you're looking to do. Supermicro is a mega manufacturer of server hardware but I can say you probably don't need most of the features it comes with. ASRock Rack makes (in my opinion) pretty good "server" motherboards which should cost a little less and fill the role just as well.

[Princess Luna]

a Ryzen 7 1700 should do for a pretty decent server...

[TechCat25]

I would use the parts you suggest but they take up a huge chunk of my budget

 

[jjdrost]

But you want to use 8gb of ram why? thats not much for a server, more a test environment keep that in mind. 

[TechCat25]

Just now, jjdrost said:

But you want to use 8gb of ram why? thats not much for a server, more a test environment keep that in mind. 

I will most likely add more depending on my end list

[jjdrost]

consider to buy your services thats a lot cheaper when you look forward for how long do you think you wil use it? make a balance for you self.

[AngryBeaver]

30 minutes ago, TechCat25 said:

Rust (if you don't know it just search it, it should be the first thing to pop up) 50 to 100 player (hopefully) on average, and for now just on server

Then you are going to need something with good single thread performance and an SSD to handle the game (for saves).

 

Honestly, if it is just one server I would go on the cheap. Pick up a dell optiplex for 150-200 used. You should be able to get one that has a 4770 cpu in it and 8gb of ram. Then you just need another 8gb of ram for 45-50 bucks and a cheap 512tb ssd for 50ish.

 

So 250-300 total and it will run the server much better than an old rack mount machine.

 

The 4770 has great single thread performance and being a quad core you can host atleast 2 servers for rust simultaneously.

[TechCat25]

On 6/16/2019 at 11:16 PM, Senzelian said:

Do me a favor and do a little speedtest and we'll see.

 

https://www.speedtest.net

 

1Gbit/s would be fantastic as download speed, but I also need to know ping and upload.

Otherwise, I'm not going to make a recommendation.

hey so after I got close and didn't have two walls separating me and my router I got 5 ping a very steady 386 mbps of download speed and 554 Mbps of upload what do you think about it now

[Senzelian]

21 minutes ago, TechCat25 said:

hey so after I got close and didn't have two walls separating me and my router I got 5 ping a very steady 386 mbps of download speed and 554 Mbps of upload what do you think about it now

That's of course way better. WIth that, you should easily be able to host a server.

[GuruOfNothing]

I know this thread is starting to age but I gotta chip in my 2 cents...

 

It sounds like the OP has little to no experience managing a piece of hardware that is going to connect a bunch of people together in a manageable, stable and protected way. Sticking some crap parts in a box and connecting it to the internet with a wing and a prayer is really kind of a dumb idea. If you are building it to serve for a pile of people that come to your house to game until they stink of Funyuns and flop sweat, well then get after it! But if you are thinking you are going to be the cool kid with a kick ass server that everyone in your friends list on Facebook will revere... you are WAAAY in over your head. Building the box is barely the least of your worries. Especially if you are planning on storing some "personal files" on it. Best intentions don't stop hackers, angry dickheads with more time than common sense and the generally nefarious intended that are going to be accessing your gear. There is a serious reason why the ones that host big game servers do so on remote hardware, usually hosted in an AWS facility or the likes, and they have far more than the average MAC users knowledge of networking, internet security, hosting and server management. Just because it can be done piss poorly doesn't mean it should be done.

 

I would like to say I am not trying to disuade the OP from creating his/her own server because it sounds like a great idea at this moment... but that is not the case. You don't put a Koi pond in a homeless encampment and expect the residents to not eat the fish and shit in it when you are not looking. Just because you can learn anything on YouTube doesn't mean it isn't going to end badly. Just sayin'

[KarathKasun]

23 hours ago, GuruOfNothing said:

I know this thread is starting to age but I gotta chip in my 2 cents...

 

It sounds like the OP has little to no experience managing a piece of hardware that is going to connect a bunch of people together in a manageable, stable and protected way. Sticking some crap parts in a box and connecting it to the internet with a wing and a prayer is really kind of a dumb idea. If you are building it to serve for a pile of people that come to your house to game until they stink of Funyuns and flop sweat, well then get after it! But if you are thinking you are going to be the cool kid with a kick ass server that everyone in your friends list on Facebook will revere... you are WAAAY in over your head. Building the box is barely the least of your worries. Especially if you are planning on storing some "personal files" on it. Best intentions don't stop hackers, angry dickheads with more time than common sense and the generally nefarious intended that are going to be accessing your gear. There is a serious reason why the ones that host big game servers do so on remote hardware, usually hosted in an AWS facility or the likes, and they have far more than the average MAC users knowledge of networking, internet security, hosting and server management. Just because it can be done piss poorly doesn't mean it should be done.

 

I would like to say I am not trying to disuade the OP from creating his/her own server because it sounds like a great idea at this moment... but that is not the case. You don't put a Koi pond in a homeless encampment and expect the residents to not eat the fish and shit in it when you are not looking. Just because you can learn anything on YouTube doesn't mean it isn't going to end badly. Just sayin'

I second this really.  I wouldnt put any personal files on a publicly visible box on a home network.

 

I put a linux box with a mediocre password and no real hardening into a DMZ as a kind of test, it was a botnet zombie inside of 2 days.

[SoggyHippo]

On 6/16/2019 at 7:32 AM, TechCat25 said:

So I am thinking about building a server and have all the parts chosen out now I just need to make sure they are compatible because servers don't come cheap,

here are the parts:

MotherBoard : SUPERMICRO MBD-X11SSL-F-O Micro ATX Server Motherboard LGA 1151 Intel C232

Controller Raid Card : SIIG SC-SA0R11-S1 PCI-Express 2.0 x2 Low Profile Ready SATA III (6.0Gb/s) 4-Port Hybrid RAID Controller Card

Rackmount : Rosewill RSV-R4100 - 4U Rackmount Server Case / Chassis - 8 Internal Bays, 2 Included Cooling Fans

Server cabinet : Rosewill RSWM-12U001 12U 450mm Deep Single Section Wall Cabinet

HDD storage : Seagate 250GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive

Power supply : EVGA 450 BR 100-BR-0450-K1 450W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Non-Modular Active PFC Power Supply

CPU : Intel Xeon E5649 SLBZ8 6-Core 2.53GHz 12MB LGA 1366 Processor

RAM : KINGSTON TECHNOLOGY DT & NOTEBOOKS KCP426NS8/8 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ MODULE

CPU Cooler : Intel Passive Heat-Sink AUPCWPBTP

pls reply

kind regards

TechCat25

I am hosting a minecraft server on a poweredge R610 which I found for $50 so I would reccomend to go find a prebuilt server since they work pretty well and you can get them cheap.