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JayzSub
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My brother plans to buy the 16 core Ryzen and the Asus X570 DTX motherboard. 

My question is will it be ok only being cooled by an 240mm aio liquid cooler, since my brother plans to use a H400 for its case. Or should he go for the Noctua twin towered air cooler. 

 

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In light we seek the darkness in our lives to shade the misdeeds we do unto those we meet. 

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We dont have glass balls to tell us how much power will the 16 core draw

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

We dont have glass balls to tell us how much power will the 16 core draw

From what I heard it's 105w tdp but Steve expext it to hit no less then 250w if overclocked

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In light we seek the darkness in our lives to shade the misdeeds we do unto those we meet. 

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11 minutes ago, JayzSub said:

From what I heard it's 105w tdp but Steve expext it to hit no less then 250w if overclocked

 i'd stick with noctua nh-d15/be quiet dark rock pro 4/good 360mm aio

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The R9 3950X is only coming to the market on September so you have a long waiting to do yet... Should probably ask again in a couple of months when we have a better understanding of these processors from the lesser SKUs at least.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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The 16 core is being used for what though? Most likely the 6 or 8 core chips will get the job done for your brother. Spending $750 just to show off is stupidity, so...the 3600 or 3700x would probably make more sense for 99% of people.

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1 hour ago, JayzSub said:

From what I heard it's 105w tdp but Steve expext it to hit no less then 250w if overclocked

yeah I dont like guesses when it comes to spending money logically. Besides it could be limited by cooling, not because of your cooler choice but the thermal density. We'll only know about that with actual testing, since 2700X couldnt push anywhere near enough heat to saturate the IHS nor have the cores offset to one side of the CPU.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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27 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

yeah I dont like guesses when it comes to spending money logically. Besides it could be limited by cooling, not because of your cooler choice but the thermal density. We'll only know about that with actual testing, since 2700X couldnt push anywhere near enough heat to saturate the IHS nor have the cores offset to one side of the CPU.

Ok thanks. 

Life is a journey in darkness, and in darkness we seek a light to light our path thru life,

In light we seek the darkness in our lives to shade the misdeeds we do unto those we meet. 

Jerry Lettins (Art teacher.) 

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On 6/13/2019 at 6:44 AM, Jurrunio said:

We dont have glass balls to tell us how much power will the 16 core draw

Move aside Weasley. Some of us graduated Hogwarts.

On 6/13/2019 at 6:32 AM, JayzSub said:

My brother plans to buy the 16 core Ryzen and the Asus X570 DTX motherboard. 

My question is will it be ok only being cooled by an 240mm aio liquid cooler, since my brother plans to use a H400 for its case. Or should he go for the Noctua twin towered air cooler. 

 

Tell your brother that a 64 core threadripper is coming out and he NEEDS it.

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20 hours ago, StarsMars said:

Move aside Weasley. Some of us graduated Hogwarts.

Tell your brother that a 64 core threadripper is coming out and he NEEDS it.

I don't think he'll go for the "ThreadRipper" variant, he could have gone with the 2nd generation ThreadRipper but he like playing with mainstream parts so he waited for Ryzen 3000. And I think the super computer at MIT smokes the threadripper or any of Intel's variants. He just likes playing with his toys. 

Life is a journey in darkness, and in darkness we seek a light to light our path thru life,

In light we seek the darkness in our lives to shade the misdeeds we do unto those we meet. 

Jerry Lettins (Art teacher.) 

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On 6/16/2019 at 5:33 AM, JayzSub said:

I don't think he'll go for the "ThreadRipper" variant, he could have gone with the 2nd generation ThreadRipper but he like playing with mainstream parts so he waited for Ryzen 3000. And I think the super computer at MIT smokes the threadripper or any of Intel's variants. He just likes playing with his toys.  

It was a joke. -.-

A 240mm aio should be fine for stock or mild overclock.

If he is spending $750 on the cpu, he might want to consider better cooling though.

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