Craigslist PC, good deal?

[steve nasty]

Hey y'all, what do you think of these specs at a price point of $1400

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 1800x
Motherboard: AsRock Killer Sli/ac
Memory: 16gb DDR4 GSkill 3200mhz
Cooler: Deepcool El Captain 240
GPU: EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW3 (white edition)
Storage: 500gb Crucial SSD | 6tb Toshiba HDD
Power Supply: EVGA G2 850W
Audio Card: Sound Blaster Audigy
Cables: custom braided white sleeved
Case: NZXT S340 Elite 

 

Thanks! Cheers

[Dedayog]

I went with these values:

 

$100

$100

$50

$75

$500

$50 / $150

$100

$50

$50

$50

 

That's $1275, so I'd start offering at $1000 and see if you meet around $1200.  

 

[aisle9]

Oh Jesus ti**yf*cking Christ no, not at $1400, no, not even a little bit no. My opening offer would be $1,000, no way do I spend a penny more than $1,100 on that.

[steve nasty]

3 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Oh Jesus ti**yf*cking Christ no, not at $1400, no, not even a little bit no.

Hahaha, thanks for the input. Thoughts on where you'd shoot for, or if you'd pursue?

Edit: I'm blind and didn't see what you said.

[steve nasty]

2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I went with these values:

 

$100

$100

$50

$75

$500

$50 / $150

$100

$50

$50

$50

 

That's $1275, so I'd start offering at $1000 and see if you meet around $1200.  

 

Thanks man!

[Dedayog]

Just now, VengefulCelery said:

Thanks man!

Looks like the motherboard than first search.  Newegg has it for $89, so I'd lower my number to $50-$75.  Not $100.

 

So still start at $1000, but peak at $1100 or so.

[Spotty]

$1400 for it used? No. Could build it brand new for $1400.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$209.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$66.59 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$74.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card	$699.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$82.98 @ Newegg Business
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1404.41
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$1389.41
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-12 15:54 EDT-0400

 

 

You'd need to talk them down a bit for it to be worth it.

[steve nasty]

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Looks like the motherboard than first search.  Newegg has it for $89, so I'd lower my number to $50-$75.  Not $100.

 

So still start at $1000, but peak at $1100 or so.

Sounds good. Trying to decide whether to go for this or build my own in a while. My current specs are a 970, i7 4700k, some other knick nacks, starting to fall behind.

[steve nasty]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

$1400 for it used? No. Could build it brand new for $1400.
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	$209.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$74.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$66.59 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$74.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB Black Video Card	$699.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$82.98 @ Newegg Business
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1404.41
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$1389.41
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-12 15:54 EDT-0400

 

 

You'd need to talk them down a bit for it to be worth it.

Would you pursue or just look into building a new one? Just based on how long the parts would stay relevant.

[Dedayog]

Just now, VengefulCelery said:

Sounds good. Trying to decide whether to go for this or build my own in a while. My current specs are a 970, i7 4700k, some other knick nacks, starting to fall behind.

4770K?  May be worth OCing that.

 

Note that July 7 the new AMD cpus and gpus come out.  Worth waiting to see how they perform.

[aisle9]

9 minutes ago, VengefulCelery said:

Hahaha, thanks for the input. Thoughts on where you'd shoot for, or if you'd pursue?

Ignore $1,100. I did some digging. You can get an 1800X on eBay for $125 right now, usually closer to $160. Without knowing the exact board in play (the seller really didn't give the chipset?!), that plus the RAM could be worth anywhere from $120-160. The AIO adds nothing, IMO, because I'm assuming it's the same age as the CPU, and if it is, it's going to pull the old Deepcool/Deadcool act before long. $450 is a fair valuation for a 1080 Ti on Craigslist. I could get one locally for $350 if I had any use for it. The SSD is worth $30 and the hard drive...maybe $100? The PSU maybe $30, the case about the same (depending on condition), sound cards are dumb and custom cables are meaningless.

 

Adding everything up, you get $955 on the low end and maybe $1,100 at the high end if everything is in sterling condition. I'd tell the seller that it's a nice system but their asking price is really high for first-gen Ryzen, especially with new AMD parts coming out next month, and see what they come down to. My cutoff would be $1,000 on this for personal use, and I would not buy it to flip right now.

 

Here's a trick: when the seller inevitably says, "I'll just hold onto it for that price," remind them that Ryzen 3000 and Navi are about to come out and make his system worth 40% less instantly. If the word "eBay" comes out of his mouth, tell him that he'll lose 10% to eBay fees and run a decent of getting ripped off by someone who says the PC doesn't work, then returns it on his dime after taking the 1080 Ti out. There are ways to beat someone down, even the people who say that they don't "need" to sell it.

 

News flash: if they didn't need to sell it for some reason, they wouldn't be selling it.

[Spotty]

2 minutes ago, VengefulCelery said:

Sounds good. Trying to decide whether to go for this or build my own in a while. My current specs are a 970, i7 4700k, some other knick nacks, starting to fall behind.

4770k + 970 is alright. Still good for 1080p gaming. I'd hang on to what you have now and see what comes out in a few weeks time with new AMD CPUs, GPUs, and rumoured new Nvidia GPUs. Are you interested in building it yourself or would you rather just buy it ready made?

[Spotty]

Just now, aisle9 said:

Without knowing the exact board in play (the seller really didn't give the chipset?!)

The Asrock Killer SLI A/C is only X370 chipset on AM4 socket (afaik)

 

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

that plus the RAM could be worth anywhere from $120-160

12 months ago maybe?... 2x8GB 3200MHz G.Skill memory starts at $75 brand new for the Ripjaws V. About $100 for flashy G.Skill Trident Z RGB memory.

 

2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

The AIO adds nothing, IMO, because I'm assuming it's the same age as the CPU, and if it is, it's going to pull the old Deepcool/Deadcool act before long.

Agreed.

[steve nasty]

2 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Ignore $1,100. I did some digging. You can get an 1800X on eBay for $125 right now, usually closer to $160. Without knowing the exact board in play (the seller really didn't give the chipset?!), that plus the RAM could be worth anywhere from $120-160. The AIO adds nothing, IMO, because I'm assuming it's the same age as the CPU, and if it is, it's going to pull the old Deepcool/Deadcool act before long. $450 is a fair valuation for a 1080 Ti on Craigslist. I could get one locally for $350 if I had any use for it. The SSD is worth $30 and the hard drive...maybe $100? The PSU maybe $30, the case about the same (depending on condition), sound cards are dumb and custom cables are meaningless.

 

Adding everything up, you get $955 on the low end and maybe $1,100 at the high end if everything is in sterling condition.

 

Here's a trick: when the seller inevitably says, "I'll just hold onto it for that price," remind them that Ryzen 3000 and Navi are about to come out and make his system worth 40% less instantly. If the word "eBay" comes out of his mouth, tell him that he'll lose 10% to eBay fees and run a decent of getting ripped off by someone who says the PC doesn't work, then returns it on his dime after taking the 1080 Ti out. There are ways to beat someone down, even the people who say that they don't "need" to sell it.

 

News flash: if they didn't need to sell it for some reason, they wouldn't be selling it.

Good tips, thanks man. 

 

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

4770k + 970 is alright. Still good for 1080p gaming. I'd hang on to what you have now and see what comes out in a few weeks time with new AMD CPUs, GPUs, and rumoured new Nvidia GPUs. Are you interested in building it yourself or would you rather just buy it ready made?

I am interested in building it myself, I was just thinking "if this is a good deal, might as well". I'm not insistent on building it myself. I think I was just inflating the value of the 1080ti.

[Spotty]

Just now, VengefulCelery said:

I am interested in building it myself, I was just thinking "if this is a good deal, might as well". I'm not insistent on building it myself. I think I was just inflating the value of the 1080ti.

Performance wise the 1080ti is roughly equal to the RTX2080 which starts at about $700. So for a 2 year old used card you would want it to be cheaper than that... Though it's rumoured that in the next few weeks price will drop as Nvidia releases some new Super cards (rumoured!). Also have new AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs and AMD Navi GPUs releasing in 3 weeks time.
Since your computer is still decent I'd hold off a couple of weeks and wait to see the aforementioned products released and check out some independent reviews for how they compare.

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

The Asrock Killer SLI A/C is only X370 chipset on AM4 socket (afaik)

 

12 months ago maybe?... 2x8GB 3200MHz G.Skill memory starts at $75 brand new for the Ripjaws V. About $100 for flashy G.Skill Trident Z RGB memory.

I thought there was an X470 Killer? Or am I thinking Fatal1ty?

 

Regardless, the X370 board can be had for under $60 on eBay, and 16GB of DDR4 on the used market right now is el cheapo. I'd wouldn't change my numbers.

[aisle9]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Performance wise the 1080ti is roughly equal to the RTX2080 which starts at about $700. So for a 2 year old used card you would want it to be cheaper than that... Though it's rumoured that in the next few weeks price will drop as Nvidia releases some new Super cards (rumoured!). Also have new AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs and AMD Navi GPUs releasing in 3 weeks time.

I think the Super cards have been confirmed by NVIDIA as of today. Or it could have just been WCCFTech being WCCFTech.

[Spotty]

Just now, aisle9 said:

I thought there was an X470 Killer? Or am I thinking Fatal1ty? 

I believe they changed the branding to Master after the X370 series. X470 Master SLI/ac replaced the X370 Killer SLI/ac.

 

 

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

I think the Super cards have been confirmed by NVIDIA as of today. Or it could have just been WCCFTech being WCCFTech.

AFAIK it's just rumours at this point, but there's a few leaks coming out that all match up so who knows. According to WCCFTech Nvidia will officially announce whatever it is on 21/6 I think it was.