Will a i5 8400 bottleneck an GTX 1070 and will I be able to stream?

[Dexxxx]

I’m building a new rig and it’s my first build but I’ve found what I want but I don’t know wether an i5 8400k will bottleneck a GTX 1070 and will I be able to stream games without lag and with ok graphics? Thanks guys!

 

[LukeSavenije]

it would, nvenc on 1070 should do very well

 

but why the 8400? do you already have it?

[GoldenLag]

if you are streaming and CPU encoding. wait for Zen 2. its right around the corner. if you cant wait

 

these CPUs are better to buy:

• r5 1600/x
• r7 1700/x
• r7 1800x
• r7 2700/x

the 8400 is not the CPU you want to be going for, but the best option is waiting for Zen 2. 

[191x7]

20 minutes ago, quakeguy81 said:

What's new with Zen 2?  Support for higher memory clocks?

~15% higher IPS, higher clocks, more cores, lower thermals (compared to the same number of Zen or Zen+ cores)

[WickedStarfish]

11 minutes ago, quakeguy81 said:

What's new with Zen 2?  Support for higher memory clocks?

Apparently they will support 4 - 4.5 Ghz, i have not really looked into AMD much (due to a personal understanding that they have better performance than intel when by themselves but less when paired with a GPU) but if the prices are quite nice i might build an amd system for my lounge (low level VR, Gaming and internet searching), but that all depends on how much it will end up costing and how small a case i can build it in

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, WickedStarfish said:

due to a personal understanding that they have better performance than intel when by themselves but less when paired with a GPU

what? are you reffering to APU systems? if so i get it. 

 

also, thread hijacking. though OP isnt responding. 

[WickedStarfish]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

what? are you reffering to APU systems? if so i get it. 

 

also, thread hijacking. though OP isnt responding. 

yeah i did mean APU, totally forgot the name of what it was called haha

 

maybe he just got busy or had to go somewhere (i have posted a question before and then left for work before)

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, WickedStarfish said:

maybe he just got busy or had to go somewhere (i have posted a question before and then left for work before)

aka, one of the most annoying types of post. nothing wrong with them, just a tad annoying. 

[GoldenLag]

44 minutes ago, quakeguy81 said:

What's new with Zen 2?  Support for higher memory clocks?

more of everything essentially over Zen 1. 

 

more clocks, more cores, more, more, more. 

 

for reference. in January they showed of an ES "beating" (functionally a tie) a 9900k in cinebench while consuming significantly less power. 

 

offcourse it is just Cinebench and its directly from AMD, but still. 

[RAM555789]

2 hours ago, quakeguy81 said:

What's new with Zen 2?  Support for higher memory clocks?

To simplify it down Zen was the 1st released generation of Ryzen, so Ryzen 1200, 1600, ect. While Zen 2 will be Ryzen 3XXX and is coming out in July. The current size of transistors is 14nm, while Zen 2 will drop this to 7nm so we should see a very large bump in performance across the board. Even if you don't want to wait for Zen 2, there are better options than the i5 8400 as mentioned earlier of you haven't already gone out and bought it.

[Dexxxx]

On 5/15/2019 at 8:28 AM, LukeSavenije said:

it would, nvenc on 1070 should do very well

 

but why the 8400? do you already have it?

I don’t but I’m on a bit of a budget of 1k so I’m pretty close

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, Dexxxx said:

I don’t but I’m on a bit of a budget of 1k so I’m pretty close

hm... i can do a lot with that budget

 

what do you already have?

[Dexxxx]

6 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

hm... i can do a lot with that budget

 

what do you already have?

1070 whiite

corsair h60 hydro

corsair carbide series tg white

corsair 650 w

t2b barcuda

vengance pro white

msi b360 white

i54800

but i really like this stuff all i really want to know is if it is possible to run games like rust and maybe stream games like rl?

[LukeSavenije]

15 minutes ago, Dexxxx said:

1070 whiite

corsair h60 hydro

corsair carbide series tg white

corsair 650 w

t2b barcuda

vengance pro white

msi b360 white

i54800

but i really like this stuff all i really want to know is if it is possible to run games like rust and maybe stream games like rl?

nvenc should do it good enough, so yeah

[Dexxxx]

21 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

nvenc should do it good enough, so yeah

cool hanks for the help

[Princess Luna]

38 minutes ago, Dexxxx said:

but i really like this stuff all i really want to know is if it is possible to run games like rust and maybe stream games like rl?

yes it's enough, just select the iGPU Quicksync on the OBS settings

[LukeSavenije]

4 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

yes it's enough, just select the iGPU Quicksync on the OBS settings

igpu? not nvenc?

[Princess Luna]

13 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

igpu? not nvenc?

Pascal NVENC is really not as good as Turing's... with a 1070 vs the UHD 630 it's actually the same... performance and quality wise, so it doesn't matter really

[LukeSavenije]

5 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Pascal NVENC is really not as good as Turing's... with a 1070 vs the UHD 630 it's actually the same... performance and quality wise, so it doesn't matter really

ah, makes sense then