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  1. I made it to Youtube haha. Thanks @codeHusky

  2. Welp, after trying both I feel like Edge is better than Chrome. Time to switch

    1. Ashley xD

      Ashley xD

      it is a very good browser. if you use your Microsoft account for all your stuff it's great. i don't, so i stick with chrome, also becuase the Mac version of Edge is kinda meh compared to the Windows version. 

    2. WaggishOhio383

      WaggishOhio383

      I feel like the main difference between edge and chrome is how well they integrate with Microsoft and Google's services respectively. At this point there really isn't a difference performance-wise. For me, I rely much more heavily on Google's ecosystem, so chrome is the better choice. I'm personally not a huge fan of Microsoft's app ecosystem.

  3. Some new info based on latest leaks (which I believe it's 99% correct):

    1. Ryzen 5000 mobile U series will have 4 main SKU: R5-5500U, R5-5600U, R7-5700U, R7-5800U:No description available.

    5500U and 5700U are with Zen 2 cores (4600U and 4800U refresh) with some minor clock speed bump. R5 will have 7 CUs. 5600U and 5800U are Zen 3. Notice 5600U has cut down L3 cache. iGPU is still Vega, Navi iGPU rumoured for Ryzen 6000.

     

    2. Based on Ryzen 4000 mobile, we can roughly know the specs for H series SKU. If no surprise, R5-5600H will have the same, if not similar spec to 5600U (higher TDP of course). Mayb cut down iGPU but still has same max turbo speed. Same applies to R7-5800H (5800U).

     

    3. Usually H series CPU will cut 200MHz boost clock from desktop ones (eg 4600H vs 3600 and 4800H vs 3700X). Based on the previous theory, I guess there will be R5-5600 at 4.4GHz (+200MHz from 5600H, 5600X is 4.6 for reference) and R7-5700/5800 at 4.6GHz (5800H is 4.4, 5800X is 4.7) in future.

    1. James Evens

      James Evens

      Why?

      1 generation naming, 1 Architecture

      Now AMD relabels a Zen 2 CPU as Zen 3 due to placing it at the 5000 sku. Also AMD still doesn't have Intel ARK.

      Model numbers had nothing to do with performance but at least you could trust they tell you the age/generation at a glance....

    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      Yeah the naming is confusing. But Intel TGL-U naming isn't that better also.

  4. RTX 3080 selling for $810+ here...damn

    1. ProjectBox153

      ProjectBox153

      I haven't even paid attention to the crazy prices of these new cards. I paid $220 for my RX 570 4GB back in 2017 so I plan to keep it for a while. 

    2. TheDankKoosh

      TheDankKoosh

      That is a pretty bad price hike, but the performance is there so it's hard to say no for those wanting that level of performance, hopefully AMD delivers, though that's about as likely as apple making macOS open source.

  5. I think I've asked this before but nvm: Do you think CPU+GPU performance is important in non gaming laptops (Ultrabook, business laptops...)? Just want to hear your opinions.

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    2. porina

      porina

      To an extent. Some minimum level of performance is needed for the job at hand. For example, I have some Atom class CPU laptops (Intel and AMD) and they're just sluggish, even with more ram added and SSD. The GPU I think is less important. Even some really old laptops I have with GPUs that are not capable of running modern games at all are still fine for general Windows use.

    3. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      it can't be too bad, especially when it comes to hardware decoding support. software decoding is really bad for slow CPUs and battery life

    4. TheDankKoosh

      TheDankKoosh

      A modern ryzen APU is more then enough for all of those types of laptops, nobody is going to be doing anything more than some excel level intensity, so I don't really see the point in overprovisioning a business machine.

  6. My personal opinion:

    3060 'should' have similar performance to 2080. So if we do the math, a 3060 mobile (80w) will perform around the same with 2080MQ (80w). Not sure how good Ampere scales with power though. That is roughly 15-20% performance increase compared to 2060 80w.

     

    Ryzen 5000 laptops are pretty much confirmed to have higher prices compared to Ryzen 4000 (rumoured: R5-5600H +$120, R7-5800H +$180, compared to predecessor). So if you want to buy a R7-4800H+2060 laptop now, there's nothing wrong with it. It's still a decent buy. Would be even better if the 2060 is 115w variant (of course 3060 mobile should have a 115w variant also, but I think the performance difference will be about the same). For a R7-5800H+3060 laptop, you pay more to get 15-20% more CPU&GPU performance. To me I DON'T think it's REALLY worth it.

     

    And yes, both Intel and AMD + 30 series gaming laptops will not be cheap. Intel will probably use CML-H (10th gen) and TGL-U (TDP up to 35w) while AMD will have Ryzen 5000 H.

  7. Not going to lie, I feel like 5800X is a bit too expensive. Saw some ppl complaining the price increase but to me it's fine since AMD are now leading, and Intel still selling expensive CPUs

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    2. TheDankKoosh

      TheDankKoosh

      The top end skus make sense for a $50 increase, my problem is with the lower end skus getting the same price increase since percentage wise, it makes little sense. Unless the non x counterparts are significantly less, I don't see this selling nearly as well as zen 2.

    3. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      we don't need AMD to sell the same prices as Zen 2, but cannot be too expensive either

       

      to me R5 should be around $220-230 while R7 should be around $350-400

    4. TheDankKoosh

      TheDankKoosh

      Hopefully AMD provides on those prices with the non-x skus since I was planning on grabbing an 8 core around christmas.

  8. Sometimes I know many new info (laptop related) but I really don't like to share out bcoz some might think that I'm lying. What kind of person I am, you should be clear...I never share info without evidence. Whether you trust the source or not, I don't care. I don't need your trust. If you believe me then you'll believe...

  9. Am I the only one who watch YT videos in x1.25 or x1.5 speed?

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    2. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      I watch everything at 2x if possinle other than movies and dramas

    3. ProjectBox153

      ProjectBox153

      I typically play most things at 1.5x speed because I'm usually just listening to videos, not watching them.

    4. minibois

      minibois

      no way, I watch the videos at 0.25x speed.

       

      sometimes this is thankfully done for me already:

       

  10. Used to be active in this game...lost the interest.

     

    Who still playing Apex Legends?

    1. PacketMan

      PacketMan

      everyone I know who played Apex are Fortnite and Warzone fans, guess the game didn't give anything else of value to those fans...

    2. WaggishOhio383

      WaggishOhio383

      I quit half way through season 5. Just didn't have the time to invest in a battle royale anymore, as much as I loved the game. Now I play Titanfall 2 instead. Same game universe, but a way better game that doesn't require you to invest your whole life into it to do well and have fun.

  11. Honor Hunter gaming laptop - the live presentation is terrible.

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    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      i watched it from Honor weibo

    3. Hassan170

      Hassan170

      Quote

      i watched it from Honor weibo

      Was it That bad?

    4. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      from a laptop enthusiast standpoint, bad

  12. Can Intel just stop talking about how good 5GHz in laptops? It can only be reached 0.01% of the time...

    1. Moonzy

      Moonzy

      "look how much faster I can load facebook and tweetbook!" - no one ever

  13. image.thumb.png.f67d53dacd61411177fea9ee86101e27.png
    2060 gaming laptop for just over $1000...not bad?

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    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      There is 4800H for around 200 more (roughly $50)

       

      7i is significantly more expensive, 2060 model is not available

    3. PacketMan

      PacketMan

      For $50 more seems like a very good deal imo

      I thought the 7i was a 17" laptop, weird that I can't find any new 17" model in Spain (aren't they making any 17" right now?)

    4. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      there is no 7i with 17 inch

  14. Any knows how to monitor temp of each core in Ryzen mobile? hwinfo64 only shows the whole CPU package temp.

    1. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      You cant, the CPU has all those sensors but it's only able to report the highest reading.

    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      I saw someone did it, that's why I'm asking.

    3. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/ryzen-and-per-core-temp.6474/

       

      Then whatever software they are using isnt being honest

  15. My own laptop brand tier list (Windows laptops), based on their products:

    Tier 1: Lenovo, HP

    Tier 1.5: Acer, Dell

    Tier 2: Asus, MSI

    Tier 2.5: Clevo (barebone), Quanta (barebone), Huawei/Honor & Xiaomi/Redmi (can go to tier 2 if after sales are good)

    Tier 3: Tongfang (barebone)

    Not worth mentioning: Razer, Microsoft

    Yeah I prefer to rate models instead of brands, but some may want to know as well

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    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      It's not just the laptop model itself - to me they are still lacking in QA+QC. Also, after sales is a big weakness, no matter how good the reseller is

       

      Clevo should be in tier 2 but their products aren't competitive anymore

      -not even a single Ryzen 4000 mobile laptop

      -their new thin and light gaming laptop - PC50, don't have good thermals, while many thin gaming laptops nowadays can achieve decent thermals

      -plastic used feels cheap

       

      Some of their new products are half baked:

      -Intel 10th gen NH/NP line runs hot, unlike 9th gen, despite decent cooling solution - apparently is a BIOS issue

      -NH5xAC/AD/AF is decent, but software is buggy. There are a few issues like 1660Ti GPU runs hot (solved with BIOS update), 3950X incompatibility etc

      For Tongfang, I've made a seperate post here: https://linustechtips.com/main/profile/456522-genexis_x/?status=276097&type=status

    3. Moonzy

      Moonzy

      i heard lenovo laptop had pcb issues some time ago

       

      not true/relevant anymore?

    4. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      Not true at all. However I have seen Clevo and Tongfang using thin PCB for their motherboards.

  16. It seems like Tongfang never really test their laptops long term before releasing new models to public. The result is, almost every model has their own issues. Bloating battery, high failure rate+replacement cost of keyboard, low quality motherboard, burnt chipset/GPU, screen flickering, cheapo default RAM+SSD (some resellers do offer higher end SSDs), and the list goes on...

     

    Yes they have a poor history of making poor quality stuffs. They had improved now, but their QA+QC still have a long way to go, compared to established brands. They have good engineering in performance testing, but not in long run testing...

    1. CircleTech

      CircleTech

      we'll they are chinese.

       

      Even chinese people prefer buying western products because they know they are made better. Seriously. 

    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      Certainly there are other China companies that did far better.

  17. Some comparison+benchmarks/info on Tiger Lake U:
    preview

    preview

    preview

    preview

    Note: Benchmark results are based on high performance models, other models with default 15w power limit will perform worse

     

    Strong single core performance. iGPU needs high speed RAM to perform well. Also, there are some driver related+visual bugs.

     

    Some said Intel didn't want to do 6/8 core for Tiger Lake U bcoz of high power draw (mesh architecture not optimized for more than 4 cores?). Power efficiency is still behind AMD's 7nm, despite the improvement...

    credit: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/214334613

    1. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      mesh? Intel's using mesh from 6 to whatever max core count they produce now (skylake-x and successors), you mean ring? But Intel has ring up to 10 cores now as well...

       

      imo it's just yield problem, it's not profitable to make a bigger die and there's no room after incorporating a large iGPU like that in it.

    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      I don't think large iGPU is an excuse when Ryzen can do it (by cutting L3 cache)

    3. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      Renoir's GPU size is much smaller in proportion, while Picasso and Raven Ridge are both 4 cores max. You can look up die shots for these

  18. I start to hate Intel now...the presentation is a joke.

  19. looks like SuggestALaptop discord group isn't that good as I expect...

    1. CircleTech

      CircleTech

      Clevo laptops

  20. 20200902170354.jpg
    Learn to be humble, Intel

    1. WaggishOhio383

      WaggishOhio383

      Note the fine print "for thin and light laptops"

    2. minibois

      minibois

      WORLD'S BEST PROCESSORS

      for only a specific subset of a subset of the computer category.

    3. soldier_ph

      soldier_ph

      AMD is gonna do a quick Dab on that statement...

  21. 3070 looks interesting. But would 8GB VRAM be enough. Hopefully there will be 16GB version

     

    Price looks good but have to wait AMD offerings.

    1. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      Meanwhile at AMD: If Nvidia pushes out a 400w flagship, we'll let our flagship do 450w

  22. Asus really messed up GPU thermal in most of their 10th gen ROG gaming laptops...LM on CPU is nice but...can't recommend.

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    2. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      GE66 is decent but nothing special especially for the price - MSI stuffs are expensive for no good reasons.

    3. TheDankKoosh

      TheDankKoosh

      From what I've seen it's one of the only 10th gen models to support undervolting and has pretty good gpu thermals considering its size. Granted it is expensive, but not out of the realm of other 2070 laptops, the i7/2070 non-super combo is 1700 if memory serves correctly.

    4. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      The undervolting support needs to be enabled in advanced BIOS. Meanwhile some brands don't need to do that to undervolt...

       

      2.5kg range there are many decent yet cheaper 2070/2070S laptops

  23. Say no to 120Hz/144Hz 45% NTSC panels - please don't support laptop manufacturers who make this to be a common trend. We don't want laptop panel standards to go backwards.

    1. Den-Fi

      Den-Fi

      Ugh, this sounds like the 1366 x 768 of 2020 lol.

  24. https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/203213776
    Nvidia MX450 review (can use google translate)

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    2. AluminiumTech

      AluminiumTech

      But yeah it looks like the website is trying to say from the tables and codenames that MX450 is a GTX 1650 Max Q with 2GB VRAM and lower TDP.

    3. Jurrunio

      Jurrunio

      @AluminiumTech Quite the opposite. It says that despite sharing TU117 with GTX1650 and only slightly cut down core count, the heavy memory bottleneck (even with GDDR6) and hopeless ROPs bottleneck means even at its highest power draw config, MX450 is a significant downgrade over the 1650M. Compared to the 1650MQ, indeed performance gap is much smaller, but since the test sample is already showing the MX450's best (i.e. highest power draw version), you can still expect major differences when using retail devices carrying either GPU.

    4. genexis_x

      genexis_x

      need some memory OC, heat is an issue tho

       

      but we should appreciate that Nvidia finally gave MX GPU a worthy upgrade after years (Pascal to Turing)

  25. weibo is such a trash website to use

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