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Looking to switch from an FX-8350 to an i7 for better After Effects performance

I've started using After Effects for work and personal projects more recently and I'm looking to speed things along so I don't have to spend as long waiting for preview frames to render out while I'm working. I'm willing to drop $300-$500 within the next month or so on a CPU and a motherboard to go with it. My current build is as follows:

 

Case : Raidmax Vortex (tiny, so it'll only fit about a 9"x11" mobo)

Mobo: Asus m5a-99x evo r2.0

RAM: 24GB (8 4 8 4) DDR3 1600

CPU: AMD FX-8350 @ 4.6GHz

Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212

GPU: GTX660 (2GB GDDR5)

PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 620W

and then storage and stuff

 

Aside from purchase recommendations, I have a few questions:

- In ideal conditions (multi-threaded with full scaling, etc.), roughly what percent performance increase would I see from switching?

- I haven't kept up on AMD's release schedule lately. Are they releasing anything "game-changing" in the near future that I'd be better off waiting for?

- Is the CPU the right thing to upgrade here or would I be better off with a better GPU and relying on CUDA acceleration?

- I've heard from some people that something like a 4790k would triple my compute performance, which I'm very skeptical of and I've also heard that it'd only be about a 10% difference which seems like another extreme.  Does anybody have solid figures for this that I could use as a comparison?

- Would my money be better spent investing in water cooling and overclocking if switching to Intel would not provide significant performance benefits?

 

Thanks for any advice in advance.

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I'm willing to drop $300-$500 within the next month or so on a CPU and a

i you want something that will radicaly outperform the FX-8350 in multi-threaded applications and multi-tasking you'll have to trow a lot more than 300 to 500$ on it...

As far as multi-threaded performance is concerned, moving from an overclocked AMD FX-83XX chip the next worthy upgrade is this honestly:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($104.95 @ B&H)

Total: $628.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-02 12:56 EDT-0400

Anything below that you will feel raped.

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

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I've started using After Effects for work and personal projects more recently and I'm looking to speed things along so I don't have to spend as long waiting for preview frames to render out while I'm working. I'm willing to drop $300-$500 within the next month or so on a CPU and a motherboard to go with it. My current build is as follows:
 
Case : Raidmax Vortex (tiny, so it'll only fit about a 9"x11" mobo)
Mobo: Asus m5a-99x evo r2.0
RAM: 24GB (8 4 8 4) DDR3 1600
CPU: AMD FX-8350 @ 4.6GHz
Heatsink: Cooler Master Hyper 212
GPU: GTX660 (2GB GDDR5)
PSU: Antec High Current Gamer 620W
and then storage and stuff
 
Aside from purchase recommendations, I have a few questions:
- In ideal conditions (multi-threaded with full scaling, etc.), roughly what percent performance increase would I see from switching?
- I haven't kept up on AMD's release schedule lately. Are they releasing anything "game-changing" in the near future that I'd be better off waiting for?
- Is the CPU the right thing to upgrade here or would I be better off with a better GPU and relying on CUDA acceleration?
- I've heard from some people that something like a 4790k would triple my compute performance, which I'm very skeptical of and I've also heard that it'd only be about a 10% difference which seems like another extreme.  Does anybody have solid figures for this that I could use as a comparison?
- Would my money be better spent investing in water cooling and overclocking if switching to Intel would not provide significant performance benefits?
 
Thanks for any advice in advance.

 

 

4790k?

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1- In ideal conditions (multi-threaded with full scaling, etc.), roughly what percent performance increase would I see from switching?

2- I haven't kept up on AMD's release schedule lately. Are they releasing anything "game-changing" in the near future that I'd be better off waiting for?

3- Is the CPU the right thing to upgrade here or would I be better off with a better GPU and relying on CUDA acceleration?

4- I've heard from some people that something like a 4790k would triple my compute performance, which I'm very skeptical of and I've also heard that it'd only be about a 10% difference which seems like another extreme.  Does anybody have solid figures for this that I could use as a comparison?

5- Would my money be better spent investing in water cooling and overclocking if switching to Intel would not provide significant performance benefits?

1- +100% multi-threaded performance or more depending on the clockspeed with a 6 core 12 threads CPU like the 5820K.

2- No, AMD will never catch up with haswell or hawell-E or skylake or whatever..at least not anytime soon, it's done.

3- Not sure, depends on your application, do your research it might very well be your GPU is weak, if you game at 1080p as well you want to consider upgrade there for sure.

4- 25 to 40% depending on clock speed. (AKA not worth your 500$...if you're after single-threaded performance for gaming though you see up to 100% per core performance increases...but multi-threaded around 30%-35% is what i've observed.)

5- Switch to intel but not a quad-core. Water-cooling is highly optionnal a good aircooler from bequiet or noctua would be perfect as well.

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

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i you want something that will radicaly outperform the FX-8350 in multi-threaded applications and multi-tasking you'll have to trow a lot more than 300 to 500$ on it...

As far as multi-threaded performance is concerned, moving from an overclocked AMD FX-83XX chip the next worthy upgrade is this honestly:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme3 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($154.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($104.95 @ B&H)

Total: $628.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-02 12:56 EDT-0400

Anything below that you will feel raped.

My friends made it sound like an i7 would wipe the floor with my FX.  Good thing I got a second opinion on that.

 

Just curious, though

are there any similarly-specced i7 chips to the one you mentioned that would allow me to continue using my DDR3 RAM?  I've got 24gigs of it (less than a year old so it would seem like an awful shame to ditch it)

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My friends made it sound like an i7 would wipe the floor with my FX.

in many single-threaded applications or applications that use 6 main threads or less for example...games... yes it absolutely would, but in multi-threaded applications such as video rendering, transcoding, encoding or compression for example an haswell hyper-threaded quad-core CPU such as the i7-4790K for example is only around 30% faster clock for clock.

Check LTT Cinebench R15 user submitted results for example and you'll see, it's pinned up there in the subforum topics...single-threaded performance is leap and bound ahead though.

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

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I say go for Skylake or X99! :)

Lake-V-X6-10600 (Gaming PC)

R23 score MC: 9190pts | R23 score SC: 1302pts

R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

Spoiler

Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.4/4.8GHz, 13,5MB cache (Intel 14nm++ FinFET) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W / RAM A1, A2, B1 & B2: DDR4-2666MHz CL13-15-15-15-35-1T "Samsung 8Gbit C-Die" (4x8GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 5: Crucial P1 1000GB M.2 SSD/ Storage 6: Western Digital WD7500BPKX 2.5" HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter (Qualcomm Atheros)

Zen-II-X6-3600+ (Gaming PC)

R23 score MC: 9893pts | R23 score SC: 1248pts @4.2GHz

R23 score MC: 10151pts | R23 score SC: 1287pts @4.3GHz

R20 score MC: 3688cb | R20 score SC: 489cb

Spoiler

Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.2/4.2GHz, 35MB cache (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Display: HP 24" L2445w (64Hz OC) 1920x1200 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT DUAL OC RDNA2 32CUs @2607MHz (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4, Socket-AM4 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W / RAM A2 & B2: DDR4-3600MHz CL16-18-8-19-37-1T "SK Hynix 8Gbit CJR" (2x16GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Storage 5: Kingston A2000 1TB M.2 NVME SSD / Wi-fi & Bluetooth: ASUS PCE-AC55BT Wireless Adapter (Intel)

Vishera-X8-9370 | R20 score MC: 1476cb

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter

Godavari-X4-880K | R20 score MC: 810cb

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 95w Thermal Solution / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

Acer Aspire 7738G custom (changed CPU, GPU & Storage)
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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600, 2-cores, 2-threads, 2.4GHz, 3MB cache (Intel 45nm) / GPU: ATi Radeon HD 4570 515MB DDR2 (T.S.M.C. 55nm) / RAM: DDR2-1066MHz CL7-7-7-20-1T (2x2GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Storage: Crucial BX500 480GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5" SSD

Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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Just curious, though

are there any similarly-specced i7 chips to the one you mentioned that would allow me to continue using my DDR3 RAM?  I've got 24gigs of it (less than a year old so it would seem like an awful shame to ditch it)

if you're willing to buy used you can look at 6 Core CPU on X79 ivy-bridge E for example the i7-4930K will ''wipe the floor'' of your AMD FX both in single-threaded AND multi-threaded performance :) ...and this work with DDR3 RAM.

| CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v  Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING  CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 |
| GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC  RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz |
| Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR

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