Am I the only one that actually wants that cherry MX laptop? MSI GT80

[Syntaxvgm]

 

Seriously. Ugly or not, idc it looks like a great workstation.

The trackpad-

It's an 18.4 inch laptop. I am currently using one of that size. While I can and do use it from my lap, I'm tall enough to have a big enough lap that it doesn't fall off. Most people don't use something of this size in their lap. It's meant to be put on a table. With a mouse. The track-pad provides minimal functionality.

 

 

With a laptop that size, a regular keyboards is actually very hard to type on. The lip on my m18x (lay off, bought it used) is so large that no matter how good the keyboard is, my typing is not aligned and I make a lot of mistakes. And the keyboard is terrible, btw. 

I'm not a typist, but I can peak at 90-100 wpm on a good desktop keyboard that's either a cherry mx or a scissor switch. This speed is only when typing what comes to mind, not reading and re-typing. 
Now, for a comparison between a normal laptop and this, I get about 70-75 wpm average on my old 14 inch dell latitude e6400. This keyboard is really small and cocks my wrists inward because it was small and I had to pull it close, and I still type that fast. Consistently too, I make very little mistakes on that laptop. The keyboard, while small, was pretty well made. Now, my latitude had all of the extras like the higher res screen, gpu and whatnot, but did not have the backlit keyboard option. I bought a non-oem cheap Chinese replacement with a backlight. So cheap the keys actually wore down. Not a good keyboard, but served its purpose. Did not affect my typing speed. 

 

Now on this huge ass m18x, I only get like 50 wpm, and I make a TON of typing mistakes. It's hard, I have to put my hands outward and reach for the inner keys, and he huge lip makes it hard to move my wrists. Yes, the keyboard is cheap and mushy, but that's not the issue, it's still better than most cheapo laptop keyboards. Just not something that should be on such an expensive machine. 

 

Anyway that's where this MSi laptop comes in. The m18x is so crappy to type on. I have no problem carrying it around. It's not to large to handle at all. It also has a 330w brick. I love the 18.4 inch screen size actually.

 

Now, with that cherry keyboard on it, the lip on the front is very small. The laptop is still thick, but it looks like given a table, it would be a dream to type on. 

Other 18.4 inch laptops have the keyboard too far away and up too high, and this is just perfect. 

With a laptop of this size you can sit further away, and it's actually very comfortable despite the size. The only downside is the keyboarding experience. 

 

So I really love the idea of this laptop. 

Of course, I can't tell how it types until I try it, because the lip still looks a bit big, but I still want it.

Seeing the price tag, I think I should sell my kidney to sex slavery or something. 

 

Thoughts on my view of this laptop? Do you/have you owned a thick 18.4 inch laptop before? 

 

 

[thekeemo]

my only question after seeing it was: is male prostitution profitable?

[Lays]

IDK I feel as if buying a high end laptop & a seperate mechanical keyboard would be much cheaper :q, given you can't take it with you everywhere though I guess it kinda defeats the purpose.

[TheSLSAMG]

I despise the keyboard position, it's the opposite of usable on a laptop for me.

[Aniallation]

my only question after seeing it was: is male prostitution profitable?

Not in Calgary I'll tell you that

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I really hate how the keyboard is low to the bottom. I like to rest my wrist.

Looks kinda ugly too, OCD is rip.

[thekeemo]

Not in Calgary I'll tell you that

male stripping?

 

EDIT: wait did annihilation actually crack a joke? has his stone composure been broken?

[Flyguygamer]

I want it, and a few other notebooks too.

[Swndlr]

i wouldnt buy it

i would rather have a high end "normal" laptop.

[Syntaxvgm]

IDK I feel as if buying a high end laptop & a seperate mechanical keyboard would be much cheaper :q, given you can't take it with you everywhere though I guess it kinda defeats the purpose.

well, I've tried. Bringing an 18 pound laptop setup is one thing, but a keyboard is another. it's not the size or weight, but it's the fact that' it's hard to slide into a bag. You don't want pressure on the keycaps, you can't slide it in and not expect that it wont' potential break. You can't put it in a bag with multiple things, you need to have a separate bag, well a case for it.  The other problem is it actually becomes a bit far. Plus the laptop of this size and the keyboard combo, you run out of table space. 

[elecxonica]

I like it, it's the opposite of an ultrabook.

[Albatross]

That's ugly? I think it looks really nice...

[The Crazed Child]

I wouldn't mind a SLI 980M laptop that I can take around with me, and keep a 4K display at home to use it like a desktop

[Syntaxvgm]

I could be wrong, but it just doesn't look ergonomic in the slightest. I wouldn't jump on it now. I'm sure in like a year they'll be able to implement a mechanical keyboard on top of the laptop components because as of now, that huge lip is just ugly IMO. 

It's getting so many negative reactions from people like linus and other reviewer just for the ugliness and oddness that I doubt it'll be a returning product type. 

Ugly or not, if it types comfortable and the lip is small enough, it's good. 

ergonomic is a rare luxury on laptops, and 99% of them are not in any way. I can type on something that is not ergonomic

[PhantomChevron]

Didn't they say it comes with a Wrist wrest or somethin

[Syntaxvgm]

Didn't they say it comes with a Wrist wrest or somethin

Yah. The lip issue is weather or not the spacebar and bottom keys descend below or too close to the lip. 

I almost never use wrist wrests, so this is important to me. 

[Thebman712]

i would not mind it, i would not buy it but if i was somehow, pray to lord gaben, gifted one i would prob use it over my desktop

 

but i would perfer the new msi laptop with a dock, i think that will be the next big thing. intel iris pro (gen2?) is still great and if it can run games like dota, csgo, issac, minecraft, civ v, ect on the road its great, then you plop down at home and get real work done with your desktop graphics 

[Syntaxvgm]

i would not mind it, i would not buy it but if i was somehow, pray to lord gaben, gifted one i would prob use it over my desktop

 

but i would perfer the new msi laptop with a dock, i think that will be the next big thing. intel iris pro (gen2?) is still great and if it can run games like dota, csgo, issac, minecraft, civ v, ect on the road its great, then you plop down at home and get real work done with your desktop graphics 

I really, hate to say it, like the alien-ware solution better because you can still actually use the laptop itself. Has a wire yah know. 

[D2ultima]

As a bulky, SLI laptop owner myself, I can say that if you're considering that machine PURELY for the keyboard... you are a rare one. I personally wouldn't get it because of the TDP limited, integrated CPU, the $300 USD (or more) price markup and the fact that there is no dedicated numpad, which I use for my overlay/streaming hotkeys.

 

I'll stick with my current machine and pop two 980Ms in at a later date and grab a 4910MQ CPU instead of getting a GT80 .

[Syntaxvgm]

As a bulky, SLI laptop owner myself, I can say that if you're considering that machine PURELY for the keyboard... you are a rare one. I personally wouldn't get it because of the TDP limited, integrated CPU, the $300 USD (or more) price markup and the fact that there is no dedicated numpad, which I use for my overlay/streaming hotkeys.

 

I'll stick with my current machine and pop two 980Ms in at a later date and grab a 4910MQ CPU instead of getting a GT80 .

Yah my 18 inch laptop is a workstation primarily, even if I decided to stick 980ms in it. It does overclock though, and I don't think this is available with an unlocked cpu. So yea, there's that.

If I had the money, it'd seriously consider it though. 

I really like the 18.4 inch size for a workstation laptop though. That said, at that price point, I would probably go for a clevo with a  desktop cpu or something. 

[D2ultima]

Yah my 18 inch laptop is a workstation primarily, even if I decided to stick 980ms in it. It does overclock though, and I don't think this is available with an unlocked cpu. So yea, there's that.

If I had the money, it'd seriously consider it though. 

I really like the 18.4 inch size for a workstation laptop though. That said, at that price point, I would probably go for a clevo with a  desktop cpu or something. 

Which one do you have? I'm having problems thinking of non-alienware 18" laptops with SLI and non-unlocked CPUs. Everything else is 17" and should support unlocked chips. What *I* need though is another PSU for if I ever get those 980Ms. >_>. Those things drink power like a jet plane drinks fuel once you go past stock.

[Syntaxvgm]

Which one do you have? I'm having problems thinking of non-alienware 18" laptops with SLI and non-unlocked CPUs. Everything else is 17" and should support unlocked chips. What *I* need though is another PSU for if I ever get those 980Ms. >_>. Those things drink power like a jet plane drinks fuel once you go past stock.

I have the m18x R1, though it's not the only 18.4 inch laptop I've used. Not all are gaming machines. 

[D2ultima]

I have the m18x R1, though it's not the only 18.4 inch laptop I've used. Not all are gaming machines. 

Your M18x R1 has unlocked CPU support (2940XM) and cannot use 980Ms (needs UEFI + win 8 for Alienware machines, which your BIOS lacks).

 

I spend WAY too much time on NBR.

 

Your best bet are two 780Ms and the CPU I suggested. It's still a fairly powerful machine.

[Syntaxvgm]

Your M18x R1 has unlocked CPU support (2940XM) and cannot use 980Ms (needs UEFI + win 8 for Alienware machines, which your BIOS lacks).

 

I spend WAY too much time on NBR.

 

Your best bet are two 780Ms and the CPU I suggested. It's still a fairly powerful machine.

I have no idea if it can take 980ms. I know it could take 880ms though. I'm not looking to make an upraise atm. 

I have a 2920xm that can OC to 4.3 GHz without raising the vcore much if you flash to an unlocked bios like I did. I'm probably more than good to go on the CPU. 

Why exactly can it not use 980ms in the same way you can 880ms?

NBR seems to be down now, so the threads on it are not accessible to me. I understand from what I can read it's actually  an optimums issue, not anything to do with the BIOS. 

Also, I would assume if I put 780ms or 880ms in this things and overclocked, I would likely need to run dual power bricks.

 

Honestly, I'm likely going to sell this machine and get something else more workstation oriented when I have the money, as instead of upgrading this laptop I put a 970 in my desktop. 

I honestly wish this laptop was available with lesser gpu options, like maybe a single 970m, and upgrade later if I wished

[D2ultima]

I have no idea if it can take 980ms. I know it could take 880ms though. I'm not looking to make an upraise atm. 

I have a 2920xm that can OC to 4.3 GHz without raising the vcore much if you flash to an unlocked bios like I did. I'm probably more than good to go on the CPU. 

Why exactly can it not use 980ms in the same way you can 880ms?

NBR seems to be down now, so the threads on it are not accessible to me. I understand from what I can read it's actually  an optimums issue, not anything to do with the BIOS. 

Also, I would assume if I put 780ms or 880ms in this things and overclocked, I would likely need to run dual power bricks.

 

Honestly, I'm likely going to sell this machine and get something else more workstation oriented when I have the money, as instead of upgrading this laptop I put a 970 in my desktop. 

I honestly wish this laptop was available with lesser gpu options, like maybe a single 970m, and upgrade later if I wished

NBR's migrating from vbulletin to xenforo. *sigh* no idea how that'll go down.

 

The 980Ms (in SLI) require UEFI + win 8 with legacy boot disabled to work. The M18x R1 does not have this capability via the BIOS functions, so they don't work. Mr. Fox has an M18x R1, M18x R2 and AW18 and I believe it works only in the latter two as per his checking.

 

The 880Ms overheat and have serious power/throttling issues in SLI; they're generally considered broken downgrades to 780Ms, which is why I didn't recommend them to you.

 

Optimus doesn't work with SLI, and the cards work perfectly in Clevo's P570WM and P37xSM(-A) notebooks, so it's not got anything to do with that either. For some reason, the 900M series just works terribly in Alienware notebooks. It throttles much more and gives very odd performance compared to the Clevos/MSIs/etc. It's still unknown.

 

Your CPU is pretty good yes. I'd say that'd be perfect; it should be equal to a 2600K at 4.3GHz which is plenty of power.

 

Good luck selling the machine! I would keep one of those for vBIOS flashing and stuff if I owned one, but I guess you're likely going to be done with gaming notebooks from now. *sigh* gotta love the new wave of integrated CPUs so high end, powerhouse notebooks can be JUST that much thinner. *sigh*