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Chaoschris
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Hello Folks,

I am looking to start a new build completely from scratch and would appreciate your feedback to my current plan:

 

1. Budget & Location

Germany

2500€ 

 

2. Aim

I want my rig to be used solely for gaming. Titles like Anthem and Division II would be my target right now.

 

3. Monitors 

2 in total

Primary: AOC - U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz

Secondary: Snycmaster 2494SW 1920x1080 60Hz (my current one)

 

4. Peripherals

None needed Windows 10 will come from my existing system

 

5. Why are you upgrading?

My current system is around 10 years old, with some upgrades to gpu, cpu and mainboard around 5 years ago. As I've finally finished my studies and started earning some real cash i decided i treat myself to a new rig. I have already decided on my case, power supply and graphics card (got it for free from a friend and will upgrade at a later point). I want this aswell to by my first system to be watercooled so i figured i get a complete system to get started and keep the budget in place.

Below you can find my current planning. My biggest question is currently if i should go for the i5-9600k or an i7-8700k. As far as i understand the only difference is hyperthreading and im not really sure if i am actually gonna benefit from that.

 

Looking forward to your feedback,

Chris

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i5-9600K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor €327.99 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler €199.90 @ Alternate
Motherboard Asus - ROG MAXIMUS XI HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard €368.05 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €167.89 @ Alternate
Storage Samsung - 970 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For €299.00
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB GAMING X 4G Video Card Purchased For €0.00
Case Lian-Li - PC-V3000WX ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For €469.00
Power Supply Corsair - 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply €199.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Monitor AOC - U2879VF 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor €279.90 @ Caseking
Other Internal USB Hub €24.00
Other Cable Mod €100.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €2435.63
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-01 17:10 CET+0100  

 

 

 

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The 8700k is 100% the better one to get. Also the motherboard is super expensive and a waste tbh and pairing all this with a 1050ti just a bad idea. Upgrade the graphics card if you plan on playing games as with your budget you should be able to get much better. 

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13 minutes ago, Chaoschris said:

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Are you serious???

U can get a beast of a Pc in that budget..... u'll end up nowhere pairing that 1050ti with a 4k monitor...

Build something like this instead...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (€427.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€138.79 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€132.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€76.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€58.88 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  (€742.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: Acer - XF270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  (€429.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2247.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-01 17:23 CET+0100

 

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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I have to mention straight off the bat, that a 1000W power supply makes 0% sense whatsoever.
 

Go with 8700k, 9600k is a waste of cash. With the GPU you have at the moment I would even recommend using a 2700x from AMD, as you would be able to save ton of cash by maybe losing in the future with a new GPU a few FPS in total.

 

Also I don't see why would you use NZXT cooling for the PC when you can get other models such as Corsair ones or similar for 50-60 euro less, performing equally good.

 

Do you really need a third monitor?

 

To conclude the post, with less money spent you could get yourself better hardware including a new GPU, this simply seems like throwing money away.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, vexicus365 said:

Are you serious???

U can get a beast of a Pc in that budget..... u'll end up nowhere pairing that 1050ti with a 4k monitor...

Build something like this instead...

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (€427.99 @ Mindfactory) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  (€72.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€138.79 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€132.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€76.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€58.88 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AORUS Video Card  (€742.66 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€87.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Monitor: Acer - XF270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor  (€429.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2247.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-01 17:23 CET+0100

 

He doesn't need the monitor, he has two already!

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1 minute ago, Svaargod said:

He doesn't need the monitor, he has two already!

He had included a monitor in his build. I hv just improvised his build.

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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Thanks for the quick replies guys.

I currently only have 1 monitor (Snycmaster 2494SW ) so getting a second one should be included in my budget. I dont really care about the size (>24" and good resolution).

I was planning to upgrade my GPU within 4-5 months hoping the prices for 1080 would drop more due to the RTX releases.

My Case is also fixed with the Lian-li 3000.

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22 minutes ago, Chaoschris said:

I was planning to upgrade my GPU within 4-5 months hoping the prices for 1080 would drop more due to the RTX releases.

1080ti are already starting to run out of stock, wait longer and you won't be getting any new 1080. Get it now (though with your budget I'd slap a 1080ti 1070ti level card in there because the case is expensive)

 

super disappointed with that weak of a CPU actually no, considering how much's left after using a case this [profanity] expensive and the priority on the graphics card

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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If you are planning to game at 4K then the cpu is less of an issue. The best value for money would be Ryzen.

 

I would go 1440p though for a nice balance of resolution/high refresh rate. If you don't mind 60Hz then 4K is still within reach with this budget.

 

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor €197.99 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler €157.81 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4 Motherboard €177.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €149.75 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung - 970 Pro 1.0TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive Purchased For €299.00
Video Card Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 56 8GB PULSE Video Card €407.99 @ Mindfactory
Case Lian-Li - PC-V3000WX ATX Full Tower Case Purchased For €469.00
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply €87.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Monitor Acer - XF270HU 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor €429.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Other Internal USB Hub €24.00
Other Cable Mod €100.00
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €2500.52
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-01 22:27 CET+0100  
 

In order of parts selection

CPU cooler: X62 and X72 don't differ that much in performance, but can save the €40 there.

 

RAM: 16GB, 2 sticks, 3000MHz or higher, RGB, lowest price.

 

Monitor: 1440p 144Hz IPS monitor. Don't think AAA games will run above 80fps with high settings with graphics card I can put into this budget, but considering the monitor is one of the longest used item (along with the case), it makes sense to spend more for the future. Support for Freesync basically comes for free for 1440p 144Hz IPS monitors, useful since the graphics card can't hit anywhere near 144fps in AAA games.

 

Graphics card: Vega 56 supports Freesync while being the cheapest 1080-range GPU (a tad slower than 1080) available. Choose Sapphire Nitro flavour instead of Powercolor Red Dragon taste because the red shroud of the Red Dragon ruins the looks.

 

CPU: Ryzen 7 1700X because better CPUs will go past the budget.

 

Mobo: Asrock X370 Taichi because it has good components for overclocking. Even the most power hungry AM4 CPU can be easily handled.

 

PSU: Tbh 550w is already more than enough to hold the Vega 56 and Ryzen 5 2600 under max load when overclocked (within factory limits for the GPU), but a 650w unit doesnt cost that much more and there is a few euros left for that. It can also support the most hungry gaming stuff now, i.e. 9900k + 2080ti when overclocked in games (not when both are under stress test). 80+ Gold rather than Bronze because German electricity cost quite a lot.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 hours ago, Jurrunio said:
CPU cooler: X62 and X72 don't differ that much in performance, but can't save the €40 there while keeping the looks because the case doesnt support 140mm fans or radiators (280mm rad uses 2 140mm fan mounts).

 

 

The Lian-Li supports a 280mm rad in the front. Not sure why you would spend more on the cooler than the cpu though. An R7 2700 and cheaper cooler would be better.

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2 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The Lian-Li supports a 280mm rad in the front.

missed that :P I searched for '280' in the manual and nothing came out.

 

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Not sure why you would spend more on the cooler than the cpu though. An R7 2700 and cheaper cooler would be bette

because RGB. Getting such an expensive case means a high priority on looks, and you can't get better than the NZXT AIOs among liquid coolers.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

missed that :P I searched for '280' in the manual and nothing came out.

 

because RGB. Getting such an expensive case means a high priority on looks, and you can't get better than the NZXT AIOs among liquid coolers.

Pretty sure something like the Alphacool Eisbaer LT 360 would match it in performance. No RGB though.

 

If the op wants his pc lit up like a Christmas Tree then he can go with an Air cooler with RGB or buy something like a Phanteks Halo for a standard fan etc. A 360mm AIO is overkill for a 6 core Ryzen anyway ?

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7 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Pretty sure something like the Alphacool Eisbaer LT 360 would match it in performance. No RGB though.

 

If the op wants his pc lit up like a Christmas Tree then he can go with an Air cooler with RGB or buy something like a Phanteks Halo for a standard fan etc. A 360mm AIO is overkill for a 6 core Ryzen anyway ?

Could upgrade to Ryzen 7 in the future though, topping 4.3GHz will push heat output to 9900k levels

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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