Upgrade from i7 3770

[Sir_Zeke]

Hi, I'm waiting for my 2080 ti from step up(current 1080 Ti). It will probably take couple months so in mean time I'm considering my CPU+Mob+Ram upgrade. A little information about me, I only game in 4k at 60Hz, my current CPU is non "k" so no over clock. Its hard to find benchmarks with my CPU on stock with 1080 ti but I can see from 1080 ti benchmarks per with i7 8700k that I'm not getting the same FPS or in some cases I get 50% less. Games I play R6 Siege, Far Cry 5, Skyrim (with a lot of mods) and Witcher 3. Ryzen 2700x with good mob and 16Gb ram is 600£/700£ may be around 500£ on black Friday. I also do a lot of compression for movies and some office work. All my set up info on my profile page. Please help me make a right decision. Any question please ask.

[FloRolf]

At 4k the 3770 is DEFINETLY NOT 50% behind the 8700K.

The 2700X will be a very nice upgrade though as it'll have twice the cores and a little bit better IPC. 

[Sir_Zeke]

R6 Siege on benchmarks gets 80 to 90fps on average I get 45 to 60 on same settings. I just curious if upgrade like that give me a good boost in games or will I only gone see a small amount. 

[FloRolf]

15 minutes ago, Sir_Zeke said:

R6 Siege on benchmarks gets 80 to 90fps on average I get 45 to 60 on same settings. I just curious if upgrade like that give me a good boost in games or will I only gone see a small amount. 

Please use the "Quote" Function  to make sure I can see you've replied

 

But no, this big of a difference does not come from a Cpu upgrade. The benchmarks o

You've seen probably use different sceneries and/or settings. Probably resolution scale as that gets neglected quite often but makes the biggest differences! Make sure yours is set to 100% at all times and nothing higher and definetly not lower. 

 

And because 4k is highly GPU and not at all cpu bound, the difference will be minimal. 

I have just upgraded from 2600K to 1700X and it really didn't change a lot since I'm also playing at 4k with a 1080

[Sir_Zeke]

47 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Please use the "Quote" Function  to make sure I can see you've replied

 

But no, this big of a difference does not come from a Cpu upgrade. The benchmarks o

You've seen probably use different sceneries and/or settings. Probably resolution scale as that gets neglected quite often but makes the biggest differences! Make sure yours is set to 100% at all times and nothing higher and definetly not lower. 

 

And because 4k is highly GPU and not at all cpu bound, the difference will be minimal. 

I have just upgraded from 2600K to 1700X and it really didn't change a lot since I'm also playing at 4k with a 1080

Sorry about not quoting you I was on my phone and didn't see a option. Did you run your old CPU OC? or on stock? As my CPU is only 3.4hz and not overclockable. I did re-run  benchmark for R6 Siege on the same settings as the review website and this game has built in benchmark so no way of me messing this up. I understand your point about resolution scaling but I'm running it at 100% 4k.

[Sir_Zeke]

Please can some one tell me if my CPU i7 3770 on stock is not limiting my 1080 Ti at 4k and my future 2080 Ti?

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, Sir_Zeke said:

Please can some one tell me if my CPU i7 3770 on stock is not limiting my 1080 Ti at 4k and my future 2080 Ti?

see for yourself? play for 30 minutes then go look the MSi Afterburner log whether or not your GPU was around the 99% usage, if it wasn't even at 4k then your CPU is limiting it.

[iiMaagic]

7 minutes ago, Sir_Zeke said:

Please can some one tell me if my CPU i7 3770 on stock is not limiting my 1080 Ti at 4k and my future 2080 Ti?

You are more than likely experiencing a bottleneck with that CPU. The best thing to do is check your CPU and GPU usage while playing games.

 

If you use MSI Afterburner to log your CPU and GPU usage and notice that while under load your CPU stays at around 100% while your GPU sits below something like 60%-70% you're experiencing a bottleneck and you'd probably get a lot better performance from a CPU upgrade as opposed to a GPU upgrade.

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, iiMaagic said:

You are more than likely experiencing a bottleneck with that CPU. The best thing to do is check your CPU and GPU usage while playing games.

I seriously doubt it at 60hz.

[Sir_Zeke]

2 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

I seriously doubt it at 60hz.

When you are playing at max setting with extra options drops are very noticeable. What I'm struggling with is the fact is impossible to find my CPU with top tier GPU for comparison. Most of the time is i7 3770k that is over clock to 4.1 to 4.8, mine is stuck at 3.4 most of the time.

 

My new GPU 2080 Ti will be arriving no mater what. CPU upgrade is optional for me.

 

I will try today and do some benchmarks to see any recommendation so I have some thing to compare to?

[JoostinOnline]

18 minutes ago, Sir_Zeke said:

When you are playing at max setting with extra options drops are very noticeable. What I'm struggling with is the fact is impossible to find my CPU with top tier GPU for comparison. Most of the time is i7 3770k that is over clock to 4.1 to 4.8, mine is stuck at 3.4 most of the time.

 

My new GPU 2080 Ti will be arriving no mater what. CPU upgrade is optional for me.

 

I will try today and do some benchmarks to see any recommendation so I have some thing to compare to?

I don't doubt that you have drops, but those are far more likely to be GPU related. Increasing the resolution has no effect on CPU usage, but it has a massive impact on the GPU.

[Sir_Zeke]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

I don't doubt that you have drops, but those are far more likely to be GPU related. Increasing the resolution has no effect on CPU usage, but it has a massive impact on the GPU.

I understand that, that is the reason why I did mention I only game at 4k. I was hoping for some one that was in a similar situation and they did upgrade if they see a difference in min, high and average fps. 

[Sir_Zeke]

Just to add aome info to this topic. After upgrading i may not see improvment in average fps but my lows will improve? That something I can't  find answer to. Thanks guys for help.

 

I will try some benchmarks tonight and see how much usage my GPU gets.

[grss1982]

On ‎10‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 2:49 AM, Sir_Zeke said:

Hi, I'm waiting for my 2080 ti from step up(current 1080 Ti). It will probably take couple months so in mean time I'm considering my CPU+Mob+Ram upgrade. A little information about me, I only game in 4k at 60Hz, my current CPU is non "k" so no over clock. Its hard to find benchmarks with my CPU on stock with 1080 ti but I can see from 1080 ti benchmarks per with i7 8700k that I'm not getting the same FPS or in some cases I get 50% less. Games I play R6 Siege, Far Cry 5, Skyrim (with a lot of mods) and Witcher 3. Ryzen 2700x with good mob and 16Gb ram is 600£/700£ may be around 500£ on black Friday. I also do a lot of compression for movies and some office work. All my set up info on my profile page. Please help me make a right decision. Any question please ask.

i7-2600K paired with a 1080 Ti compared to an i7-8700K with the same card done by Hardware Canucks: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hardware+canucks+1080+ti+i7-2600k&FORM=HDRSC3

 

That might give you an idea on performance.

[Sir_Zeke]

16 minutes ago, grss1982 said:

i7-2600K paired with a 1080 Ti compared to an i7-8700K with the same card done by Hardware Canucks: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hardware+canucks+1080+ti+i7-2600k&FORM=HDRSC3

 

That might give you an idea on performance.

Thank you. Its a nice video and I can see the diffrence is not that big but no 4k comparison. Plus if I where to buy new ser up now I would overclock it. I need to see today if my gpu is bottleneck by cpu and if so how much.