What about VIA ?

[Void Master]

Hi guys, do you believe that via could do something to get back in the "CPU wars" it was in ? ( I know they weren't good.)

I think if they could catch up in one market segment like low powered laptops , they would be an excellent hit for both amd and intel.(VIA CPUs are very power efficient)

Then move to mini pcs ,and mid ranged laptops and desktops.

That would be awesome and then maybe we could have a third option away for the ryzen and core nonsence.( Not that nonsence though)

I know this would be a challenge especially that via needs to make it's own chipset.

But if they move quickly they could do something .

What do you think ?

 

[emosun]

I think VIA trying to make higher end products is like honda trying to make a pickup truck

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, emosun said:

I think VIA trying to make higher end products is like honda trying to make a pickup truck

My honda mows the lawn very well thank you. 

 

However on-topic! Via have licences out their x86 licence to a chinese company which make pretty decent CPUs for the money. Can't wait for Linus to test them, they have around the same IPC as AMD FX, so not really too far behind for a new company, and competitive on wattage and price. 

 

https://fuse.wikichip.org/news/733/zhaoxin-launches-their-highest-performance-chinese-x86-chips/

 

Right now they beat the Intel Atom in terms of performance w/ 8-cores. 

[Radium_Angel]

2 hours ago, RorzNZ said:

to a chinese company

Ah yes, spyware built right into the CPU. Think Superfish was bad? You ain't seen nothin' yet

(humor.....I hope)

[vanished]

3 hours ago, Void Master said:

[...].(VIA CPUs are very power efficient)[...]

I'm not particularly familiar so I have to ask... are they?  Or do they just not use much power (but have terrible performance and thus actually poor efficiency)?

 

I have to assume there's a reason they don't compete.  Either they don't do x86 or they're just not interested or capable of putting out a complete desktop platform like Intel and AMD.

[LexCalifornia]

3 hours ago, emosun said:

I think VIA trying to make higher end products is like honda trying to make a pickup truck

You were saying? 

[Bananasplit_00]

VIA have some market in Asia, i would honestly love to get my hands on a chip and a board just to be that bastard that fanboys the 3rd option nobody knows even exists  

[emosun]

5 hours ago, LexCalifornia said:

You were saying? 

no i was finished with the statement

[Jon Jon]

I honestly haven't seen a VIA CPU since the mid 2000s.

 

Everything you guys are talking about is blowing my mind, since I've had no idea!

[flibberdipper]

9 hours ago, emosun said:

I think VIA trying to make higher end products is like honda trying to make a pickup truck

Thanks for reminding me that the Ridgeline still exists for some reason.

[LexCalifornia]

15 hours ago, emosun said:

no i was finished with the statement

But it's cute, isn't it? Almost like a baby pickup truck. 

 

But back 2 topic, it would be interesting to see another player on the CPU market. Right now it's practically AMD for price/performance ratio and Intel for performance. Unless you got something that relies on either one of them, it's kinda the bottomline.

 

Zhaoxin could have an impact in the ULV market first I think. And that would be very interesting to watch because that's one of the biggest markets out there: Laptops.

 

In regards of integrated malware, we'll have to see but if you want to play with the big ones as a company, you'd be very careful with something like that. And in the end, every CPU is made in China, isn't it?

 

They certainly got the infrastructure to pull it off so it's interesting to watch what they'll come up with next. But I do hope they'll put some Cyrix stickers in the packaging. Retro alert and such.

 

Someone in the comments here linked geek bench results: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/277633-zhaoxin-shows-off-new-8-core-kx-6000-x86-cpu-at-3ghz-built-on-16nm-finfet

 

 

[GOTSpectrum]

On 10/27/2018 at 11:06 AM, Ryan_Vickers said:

I'm not particularly familiar so I have to ask... are they?  Or do they just not use much power (but have terrible performance and thus actually poor efficiency)?

 

I have to assume there's a reason they don't compete.  Either they don't do x86 or they're just not interested or capable of putting out a complete desktop platform like Intel and AMD.

VIA make super low power 1ghz chips mostly, they are very cost effective and are relatively okay with power efficiency.  

[Yud2006]

Not opening a new thread since I DID read the guideline

To the topic -

Having built my first PC with via 486 (yes Im old) I would LOVE to see an LTT episode on this. As far as I could find data online,  there is no plan to take this outside of the Chinese market.