Vega 56 or RX580 for a 38" ultrawide?

[NegNoodles]

I'm thinking about upgrading to either the 580 or vega 56 because I want to game on my Acer XR382CQK monitor. My specs currently are i5 4670K, 8GB DDr3 RAM, and a GTX770 2GB. I plan on giving the 770 to a family member, so I decided to use this time to upgrade. 

 

I game quite a bit, but most of them are not that demanding. For example, I play CSGO, Dota 2, Black Ops 3, and the Batman Arkham Games (not knight). These games do run relatively well but maybe because they're just not as demanding as the more recent games.

 

Since the buying from AMD will get me a free copy of AC Odyssey, I plan on playing it alot. However, I'm also worried that I won't be able to get a decent FPS unless I go with the Vega 56, which is almost 2x the price of a 580. I have seen benchmarks that demonstrate the 56 is quite alot stronger than the 580 in resolutions above 1080P. I'm actually worried that the 580 won't even be able to maintain a steady 40+ fps for freesync. Another thing I'm concerned about is that the price of the Vega 56 (Nitro + is ~$440 USD) is is within the price range of 1070TI which I believe to be alot stronger.

 

What do you guys think? is the 580 going to be able to handle games at this resolution? Or is it justifiable to spend almost 2x the price to get the Vega 56?

[GoldenLag]

you are running at higher than 1440p. you will need the Vega card sadly. 

[Settlerteo]

AMD new cards(probably mid-tier but still better or same at worst performance with vega 56, btw they claim gtx 1080 performance) are going to be out pretty shortly. So one option is to wait a few months. But to answer in your first question, yes you will need a vega 56 for decent performance in the ultrawide.

[NegNoodles]

8 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

you are running at higher than 1440p. you will need the Vega card sadly. 

Will the 580 not run well at this resolution though? i don't mind turning down the settings. Plus I have seen a few videos on Youtube that shows 580's ability to run 1440p, and it appears that it's able to maintain a 40-50fps in some games

 

@Settlerteo Waiting a few months is not an option because I am not even sure how long the free game bundle promotion will last. It's one of the biggest reasons why I'm even considering buying AMD lol

[Guest]

RX 580 is only great for resolutions up to something like ultrawide 1080p (2560x1080). For such a high resolution you will need a Vega card. 

[Galion]

8 minutes ago, NegNoodles said:

I'm thinking about upgrading to either the 580 or vega 56 because I want to game on my Acer XR382CQK monitor. My specs currently are i5 4670K, 8GB DDr3 RAM, and a GTX770 2GB. I plan on giving the 770 to a family member, so I decided to use this time to upgrade. 

 

I game quite a bit, but most of them are not that demanding. For example, I play CSGO, Dota 2, Black Ops 3, and the Batman Arkham Games (not knight). These games do run relatively well but maybe because they're just not as demanding as the more recent games.

 

Since the buying from AMD will get me a free copy of AC Odyssey, I plan on playing it alot. However, I'm also worried that I won't be able to get a decent FPS unless I go with the Vega 56, which is almost 2x the price of a 580. I have seen benchmarks that demonstrate the 56 is quite alot stronger than the 580 in resolutions above 1080P. I'm actually worried that the 580 won't even be able to maintain a steady 40+ fps for freesync. Another thing I'm concerned about is that the price of the Vega 56 (Nitro + is ~$440 USD) is is within the price range of 1070TI which I believe to be alot stronger.

 

What do you guys think? is the 580 going to be able to handle games at this resolution? Or is it justifiable to spend almost 2x the price to get the Vega 56?

First off check if your monitor supports freesync it'll help a bit, secondly the RX 580 can push at max 1440p at 60fps I would suggest that you go for the Vega 56 but if your screen isn't freesync enabled I'd suggest you go for a GTX 1080 zotac has a mini version that isn't a electric vampirecand is pretty compact

[GoldenLag]

Just now, NegNoodles said:

Will the 580 not run well at this resolution though? i don't mind turning down the settings. Plus I have seen a few videos on Youtube that shows 580's ability to run 1440p, and it appears that it's able to maintain a 40-50fps in some games

you can probably run it, but you will have to turn down the settings. wait and see if anything comes out this october. if not just go for the best you can afford. 

[NegNoodles]

6 minutes ago, Galion said:

First off check if your monitor supports freesync it'll help a bit, secondly the RX 580 can push at max 1440p at 60fps I would suggest that you go for the Vega 56 but if your screen isn't freesync enabled I'd suggest you go for a GTX 1080 zotac has a mini version that isn't a electric vampirecand is pretty compact

Yeah mine has freesync, but it does not need freesync to achieve 75FPS

 

Doesn't the mini 1080 have bad cooling?

 

 

And yeah I guess I'll just go for the Vega 56 then. I was just trying to find reasons to justify not having to spend the extra $200, but then I guess it's unreasonable to expect the 580 to dish out a steady 60fps at that resolution for AC Odyssey

 

Thanks for the replies guys

 

 

EDIT: Does anyone know who makes the best variant for Vega 56? i've heard great things about Sapphire and XFX for the 580, but what about the Vega 56? Is the Nitro+ a good card? I want something that's not super loud and runs cool. Thanks!

[Galion]

1 minute ago, NegNoodles said:

Yeah mine has freesync, but it does not need freesync to achieve 75FPS

 

Doesn't the mini 1080 have bad cooling?

 

 

And yeah I guess I'll just go for the Vega 56 then. I was just trying to find reasons to justify not having to spend the extra $200, but then I guess it's unreasonable to expect the 580 to dish out a steady 60fps at that resolution for AC Odyssey

 

Thanks for the replies guys

Not really I have a client running that card with his 1440p, the RX 580 was meant to compete with the GTX 1070 at 1080p higher frames anything at 1440 was ment to be turned down a smidge. If you intend to go 1440p 38inch wide what is the point of saving $200 and later in the year see tearing in newer games and since with your monitor has freesync it means you're freesync 2 capable as well the Vega 56/64 will serve you well.

You're welcome and best of luck with your system and have fun. 

[Settlerteo]

15 minutes ago, NegNoodles said:

Yeah mine has freesync, but it does not need freesync to achieve 75FPS

 

Doesn't the mini 1080 have bad cooling?

 

 

And yeah I guess I'll just go for the Vega 56 then. I was just trying to find reasons to justify not having to spend the extra $200, but then I guess it's unreasonable to expect the 580 to dish out a steady 60fps at that resolution for AC Odyssey

 

Thanks for the replies guys

 

 

EDIT: Does anyone know who makes the best variant for Vega 56? i've heard great things about Sapphire and XFX for the 580, but what about the Vega 56? Is the Nitro+ a good card? I want something that's not super loud and runs cool. Thanks!

Sapphire is always the best option for AMD cards, then XFX, then MSI, then everyone else.

[NegNoodles]

Just now, Settlerteo said:

Sapphire is always the best option for AMD cards, then XFX, then MSI, then everyone else.

Thanks for the reply. I'll go with the NItro+ then

2 minutes ago, Galion said:

Not really I have a client running that card with his 1440p, the RX 580 was meant to compete with the GTX 1070 at 1080p higher frames anything at 1440 was ment to be turned down a smidge. If you intend to go 1440p 38inch wide what is the point of saving $200 and later in the year see tearing in newer games and since with your monitor has freesync it means you're freesync 2 capable as well the Vega 56/64 will serve you well.

You're welcome and best of luck with your system and have fun. 

I see and that's true. Maybe only the vega can fully use my screens freesync feature at that resolution. THanks for the input

[Galion]

1 minute ago, NegNoodles said:

Thanks for the reply. I'll go with the NItro+ then

I see and that's true. Maybe only the vega can fully use my screens freesync feature at that resolution. THanks for the input

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