new workstation

[smeef]

1 +-2000€ i live in belgium & i shop in germany - belgie - nederland

   - i want to start building around oktober.

2 - i will use this workstation for photoshop / LR / premiere,
      internet & multi media. maybe some OC
   - i do not play games. maybe i will try doom.
   - something nice to look and build

3 - 4k for grafical work 28"
   - full hd 27"

4  - no need for peripherals

5 - old workstation is 6j old,  this pc will become my file server.  
      gtx660 fan died , i7 4770k is fine. 

6 - this is what i pcpartpicked => 

 

AMD - Threadripper 1920X 3.5GHz 12-Core Processor
Enermax - LIQTECH TR4 280 80.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI - X399 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX TR4 Motherboard
G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory
Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Samsung - 970 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AMP Edition Video Card
Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case
SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Total:    €2096.31

last built was 6j ago. i want this pc to be nice. cable management ect.
is this case easy built ? do you see problems ? maybe i7 7820x ? ...

regards smeef

[DrMacintosh]

It looks good but I would recommend against that 1070 Ti unless you can't ford a 1080 and need slightly more Cuda Cores than a 1070. 

[Jurrunio]

atm 8700k is more suitable. These apps favour Coffee Lake's single core performance rather than Threadripper's core count.

 

If you can afford the high early-bird price the 9900k will be an even better choice, but that's gonna burn a hole in your pocket and will run out of stock everywhere.

[Taf the Ghost]

@smeef

 

What Programs? (Beyond the ones listed, as those don't really need a full HEDT platform.)

[1300ny]

I might go with a Ryzen 2 instead of the TR 1. You loose 2 Cores but get better single core speed, a way better performance to watt ratio and you pay a 100€ less. As Jurrunio said you could also go with an Intel CPU but I personally allways prefer the underdog which also saves you 70€ on the CPU alone

AND: with all the money you can save on a X370 motherboard (or x470 of you want to) and the Ryzen compared to X399 and TR you can easily buy a 1080 or even 1080ti which might be a better investment for you.

 

For Ram id go with a cheaper slower RAM with higher CL times and you should only take a single rank one. You don't realy loose performance and wont have any theoretical problems with overclocking. Here the "Ofiicially" supported RAM speeds:

 

I personally would go with a good old air cooler instead of an AIO watercooler. The only real advantage of water cooling your CPU is compatibility and the visuals. Apart from that you get more for your money with an air cooler. I mean you case has enough space for even the enourmous NH-D15 !

[brob]

What is the reason for 2 x 250GB Samsung 970 Evo drives?

[smeef]

1 hour ago, DrMacintosh said:

It looks good but I would recommend against that 1070 Ti unless you can't ford a 1080 and need slightly more Cuda Cores than a 1070. 

1080 is no problem. -+50€ extra is ok.

i took the 1070 because she looked beter.
thx for the reply

 

[smeef]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

atm 8700k is more suitable. These apps favour Coffee Lake's single core performance rather than Threadripper's core count.

 

If you can afford the high early-bird price the 9900k will be an even better choice, but that's gonna burn a hole in your pocket and will run out of stock everywhere.

i have to check the price of 9900k , i do not want to pay alot more than the 1920x
thx for info

 

[smeef]

3 minutes ago, smeef said:

1080 is no problem. -+50€ extra is ok.

i took the 1070 because she looked beter.

thx for reply

 

[smeef]

52 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

@smeef

 

What Programs? (Beyond the ones listed, as those don't really need a full HEDT platform.)

i do not know what "full HEDT platform" means . google belgium did not know it .
i use the progs that i listed , 95% photoshop & LR , capter one. i'm just starting with adobe premiere. indesign en illustrator i have in school.

i'm a photografe. i have 16gb at the moment. when i do pano's . the 16gb is just enough.

i like hardware so the pc should be a master piece . overkill , a beast 
thx for replying.

[brob]

High End DeskTop. 

[smeef]

59 minutes ago, 1300ny said:

I might go with a Ryzen 2 instead of the TR 1. You loose 2 Cores but get better single core speed, a way better performance to watt ratio and you pay a 100€ less. As Jurrunio said you could also go with an Intel CPU but I personally allways prefer the underdog which also saves you 70€ on the CPU alone

AND: with all the money you can save on a X370 motherboard (or x470 of you want to) and the Ryzen compared to X399 and TR you can easily buy a 1080 or even 1080ti which might be a better investment for you.

 

For Ram id go with a cheaper slower RAM with higher CL times and you should only take a single rank one. You don't realy loose performance and wont have any theoretical problems with overclocking. Here the "Ofiicially" supported RAM speeds:

 

I personally would go with a good old air cooler instead of an AIO watercooler. The only real advantage of water cooling your CPU is compatibility and the visuals. Apart from that you get more for your money with an air cooler. I mean you case has enough space for even the enourmous NH-D15 !

i have a pcpartpicker intel 7820x built. 

aircooling is also ok, i don't need watercooling. 
thx for the info

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, smeef said:

i do not know what "full HEDT platform" means . google belgium did not know it .

HEDT = X chipset stuff, X299 (7820x included), X399 (1920x included) etc

[smeef]

59 minutes ago, brob said:

What is the reason for 2 x 250GB Samsung 970 Evo drives?

i not sure yet. 
1 raid 0

2 win on one , adobe work disk with the file's the other.

 

regards 

Edited September 9, 2018 by smeef

[Taf the Ghost]

9 minutes ago, smeef said:

i do not know what "full HEDT platform" means . google belgium did not know it .
i use the progs that i listed , 95% photoshop & LR , capter one. i'm just starting with adobe premiere. indesign en illustrator i have in school.

i'm a photografe. i have 16gb at the moment. when i do pano's . the 16gb is just enough.

i like hardware so the pc should be a master piece . overkill , a beast 
thx for replying.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Lightroom-Classic-CC-Version-7-2-Performance-1110/

 

For reasons known only to Adobe, the Intel Mainstream (so 8700k) platform works better in their products. Threadripper or X299 will serve you fine, though. A good deal on a 1920X is probably the best balance available, 

[smeef]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Lightroom-Classic-CC-Version-7-2-Performance-1110/

 

For reasons known only to Adobe, the Intel Mainstream (so 8700k) platform works better in their products. Threadripper or X299 will serve you fine, though. A good deal on a 1920X is probably the best balance available, 

1920x = 398€. the intel 7820x = 575€.

regards 

[brob]

The i7-87000 would be a better choice of cpu than the i7-7820X because of its better single thread performance. If you have the time, take a look at https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-CC-139/Hardware-Recommendations and https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2017-1-1-CPU-Performance-Core-i9-7940X-7960X-7980XE-1039/ (which shows that the i7-7700K is more than competitive with the i7-7820X).

 

I would not suggest RAID 0. Principally because it is much more fragile than a single drive.

 

I'd suggest a build more along the lines of the following.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (€363.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€157.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X CODE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€355.79 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€308.80 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€184.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  (€459.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (€131.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€100.83 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2063.14
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-09 03:05 CEST+0200

[Taf the Ghost]

Just now, smeef said:

1920x = 398€. the intel 7820x = 575€.

regards 

A 1920X, especially for the price, is a great system. Hopefully, Adobe will eventually get their programs to scale better. Since you're going to be using this system for a while, it's also possible the programs will improve to working better on your system, as well. I was simply noting what is currently the performance issues that crop up.

[smeef]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

The i7-87000 would be a better choice of cpu than the i7-7820X because of its better single thread performance. If you have the time, take a look at https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Adobe-Photoshop-CC-139/Hardware-Recommendations and https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2017-1-1-CPU-Performance-Core-i9-7940X-7960X-7980XE-1039/ (which shows that the i7-7700K is more than competitive with the i7-7820X).

 

I would not suggest RAID 0. Principally because it is much more fragile than a single drive.

 

I'd suggest a build more along the lines of the following.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (€363.90 @ Alza) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  (€157.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X CODE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€355.79 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€308.80 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€184.94 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card  (€459.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  (€131.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€100.83 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2063.14
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-09 03:05 CEST+0200

thx , i will read all the info. it looks fine 
regards