Bottleneck?

[DirtyKeyboard]

When I stream Fortnite I get framedrops in my game but my cpu stays around 15-25%, rarely going to 25, my gpu is around 50-60, but my ram is at almost 100% all the time, is my ram bottlenecking me?

 

Core i7-8700k

EVGA GTX 1060 3GB

8GB DDR4 2133 RAM

[Jurrunio]

100% ram usage? Then it is bottlenecking you.

[Bilal Sohail]

Either close background apps when playing the game or just buy another stick of 8GB. 

[NelizMastr]

8GB isn't enough for gaming anymore. You'll need to go to 16GB.

[FastRDust]

Just now, NelizMastr said:

8GB isn't enough for gaming anymore. You'll need to go to 16GB.

For gaming alone it's still enough but when you add streaming then it is to much.

[NelizMastr]

2 minutes ago, FastRDust said:

For gaming alone it's still enough but when you add streaming then it is to much.

I disagree. Plenty of games I play knock ram usage up to roughly 9-10GB with no major background tasks.

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

I disagree. Plenty of games I play knock ram usage up to roughly 9-10GB with no major background tasks.

for Fortnite?

[Sir Asvald]

Your GPU is slowing down your CPU

[NelizMastr]

10 minutes ago, FastRDust said:

for Fortnite?

Nah, I don't play that. PUBG, BF1, BFV, GTA V all do, though.

[Sauron]

10 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

I disagree. Plenty of games I play knock ram usage up to roughly 9-10GB with no major background tasks.

That's caching, just by having more physical ram installed you'll see higher usage numbers. That doesn't mean it's necessary.

[Rallenhayestime]

7 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

I disagree. Plenty of games I play knock ram usage up to roughly 9-10GB with no major background tasks.

I disagree. I've been using 8gb for about 2 months (from 64gb, mind you) and no matter what game I play I never see 100% usage on it. I've played r6, fortnite, minecraft, fh3, and cities skylines and the most ram usage I've seen is 7.2gb. That was while I had my browser open (~10 tabs) in back.

[FastRDust]

Just now, NelizMastr said:

Nah, I don't play that. PUBG, BF1, BFV, GTA V all do, though.

Yeah then i get it but for Fortnite only 8gb should be enough, it's not that demanding on the Ram.

[NelizMastr]

3 minutes ago, Sauron said:

That's caching, just by having more physical ram installed you'll see higher usage numbers. That doesn't mean it's necessary.

 

3 minutes ago, Rallenhayestime said:

I disagree. I've been using 8gb for about 2 months (from 64gb, mind you) and no matter what game I play I never see 100% usage on it. I've played r6, fortnite, minecraft, fh3, and cities skylines and the most ram usage I've seen is 7.2gb. That was while I had my browser open (~10 tabs) in back.

 

3 minutes ago, FastRDust said:

Yeah then i get it but for Fortnite only 8gb should be enough, it's not that demanding on the Ram.

Aight, then OP has a memory leak somewhere. To the investigation cave!

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, Rallenhayestime said:

I disagree. I've been using 8gb for about 2 months (from 64gb, mind you) and no matter what game I play I never see 100% usage on it. I've played r6, fortnite, minecraft, fh3, and cities skylines and the most ram usage I've seen is 7.2gb. That was while I had my browser open (~10 tabs) in back.

But.... not while streaming it at the same time right?
if you close the browsers and Stream gameplay ( i don't know if that also needs seperate sodtware) then it wil saturate the 8 gb

[Princess Luna]

Unbalanced build, you can't over spend in something to just go and cheap up on other in PC world.

 

Every thing should be as balanced as possible and going with a single 8gb stick running at the slowest possible frequency does upset the i7 8700K.

 

The GPU also ain't 'big deal' compared to the CPU, you could maximize the potential of the 1060 with an i5 8400 for instance.

 

Things you can do is try multi-tasking less during gameplay as you don't have enough ram neither fast enough ram for that, if your game data gets into Pagefile your fps will tank indeed.

[Rallenhayestime]

Just now, FastRDust said:

But.... not while streaming it at the same time right?
if you close the browsers and Stream gameplay ( i don't know if that also needs seperate sodtware) then it wil saturate the 8 gb

Obviously. I didn't say anywhere that I stream.

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

 

 

Aight, then OP has a memory leak somewhere. To the investigation cave!

 

I guess the key is Streaming While playing Fortnite and almost all of us agree that 8gb in that use case is not enough.

some prefer 16gb overall just for gaming.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, FastRDust said:

 

I guess the key is Streaming While playing Fortnite and almost all of us agree that 8gb in that use case is not enough.

some prefer 16gb overall just for gaming.

It isn't about preference, if you'll have a high end computer with an i7 8700K and let's say a GTX 1070 Ti a least, you'll want to play on high settings and those do use a lot of memory depending the game.

 

Some like Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Deus Ex Mandkind Divided, FF XV among others will certainly have issues with a single 8gb stick, no enough memory nor bandwidth to keep the other hardware fed.

 

Saying that a making the system memory exceed 8gb is just 'needless caching' is so idiotic... if you want to play on those high settings, there's simply more demand, is the system indeed caching game data? obviously with good reason to have that quick access to keep frametimes good.

 

When you're at 7.7gb usage on 8gb total and you're thinking all is fine because it isn't 100% use you're also wrong, windows scheduler will certainly be throwing a lot to Pagefile at this point, meaning background stuff is running slower and at some point the game may crash if itself has too much going to pagefile due to how it tanks performance.

 

I have seen it happen with Mirror's Edge Catalyst the best example I can recall, with an i7 7700 + GTX TITAN XM and just 1 stick of value select 8gb 2133mhz memory the game could run on 1080p all max out, but what people call 'leak' which isn't even real leaking just the more you play the more assets gets loaded into memory, happens and after 15 minutes it would began to stutter until it was not playable or simple crashed.

 

If I had lower end hardware like an i5 7400 on a GTX 1050 Ti playing on lower settings at 1080p then the memory need would decrease according turning it into an actual smooth 60fps gameplay. That is why you need a balanced system, just because one of your parts manages going ultras it doesn't mean you truly can play at it if there's a real bottleneck somewhere.

[DirtyKeyboard]

thanks for all your guys help, time for another stick.

[FastRDust]

1 minute ago, DirtyKeyboard said:

My ram is usually at around 80-90, it’s still a bottleneck if it’s not at 100% correct?

It should not get to a 100% at all.

 

[Shogunluffy_1982]

got a i5 7500 16 gb 2133mhz and gtx 1060 core 2100mhz vram 9000mhz it's cpu intensive.