Is Intel memeing us?

[Fasauceome]

Are they making a self aware joke about the node or is it just silly by mistake? I've heard jokes about "the core i55 on the new Intel 14nm +++++++ in 2035" before but now it feels too real.

 

 

[Crunchy Dragon]

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[I-r0k]

It’s hard to tell. Thoses slippery bastards get away with every thing.  

[jiyeon]

No, I believe they're legit struggling. AMD is putting the pressure down and Intel is certainly crumbling.

 

That being said, extreme amounts of pressure usually leads to diamonds...  

[GoldenLag]

no, 14+++ is a thing. its just 14++ with slighty better overclockability, but it appears to have the same wall as the 14++.

 

tbf, the 14++ is a damn good 14nm node

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

no, 14+++ is a thing. its just 14++ with slighty better overclockability, but it appears to have the same wall as the 14++.

 

tbf, the 14++ is a damn good 14nm node

not that the node itself is bad, but the naming scheme just seems a little too silly.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

not that the node itself is bad, but the naming scheme just seems a little too silly.

what else are they going to call it?

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

what else are they going to call it?

14nm 3+, allowing for them not to mash the plus key for any future Generations on this node.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, fasauceome said:

14nm 3+, allowing for them not to mash the plus key for any future Generations on this node.

they have surplus printer ink, they have to use it for sometthing

[dizmo]

I don't really care what they call it as long as it works *shrug*
Seems like a silly thing to get bent out of shape over.

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

no, 14+++ is a thing. its just 14++ with slighty better overclockability, but it appears to have the same wall as the 14++.

 

tbf, the 14++ is a damn good 14nm node

14nm+++ and 14nm++++ are already on the schedule. Cascade Lake brings +++ and Cooper Lake brings ++++. They're not all the 1/2 node improvement that 14nm+ to 14nm++ was (that's Coffee Lake's process node), but there is more they're doing with the node and will for a while.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Taf the Ghost said:

14nm+++ and 14nm++++ are already on the schedule. Cascade Lake brings +++ and Cooper Lake brings ++++. They're not all the 1/2 node improvement that 14nm+ to 14nm++ was (that's Coffee Lake's process node), but there is more they're doing with the node and will for a while.

it just gets zanier and zanier.

[Taf the Ghost]

Just now, fasauceome said:

it just gets zanier and zanier.

Also, each improvement also limits the improvements Intel will see moving to 10nm node. 

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Also, each improvement also limits the improvements Intel will see moving to 10nm node. 

isnt the expected improvement in performance realy minor?

 

edit: because the 14nm node is so spiffing good?

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Also, each improvement also limits the improvements Intel will see moving to 10nm node. 

the expected improvement for intel will be yield more than anything else.

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

the expected improvement for intel will be yield more than anything else.

14nm yields are 22nm "best of all time" for Intel, but they're not bad. 10nm are still incredibly bad, though they're starting to validate some of the early 10nm+ SKUs already.

5 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

isnt the expected improvement in performance realy minor?

 

edit: because the 14nm node is so spiffing good?

14nm has become good, but remember that took a while. The entire Broadwell generation has mostly been forgotten (probably from a lack of a full release), but that was on 14nm and it was pretty toasty. On the same node, they're going to go from 3.8 Ghz max turbo to well into the 5 Ghz range. That's pushing a node incredibly far. But we're already 3.5 years on 14nm for Intel and they'll be on the node, at leading edge, until at least late next year.

 

Icelake's architecture is going "wider", so IPC improvements are going to be interesting. We don't know what will or won't take advantage of them yet.