PSU calculators help.

[BoopLoopy]

So I've input my future build into multiple PSU calculators and they all say around the same (as they should) which is roughly 400W for my load wattage (this includes GPU/CPU OC). It then recommends a 450W power supply, then right underneath recommend 650W power supplies by reputable brands (depending on the website). Going from this I have lined up for my build a Corsair TX650M PSU. Is this okay, or am I being lead to spend more than I should, and choose something such as 550W instead? (Also should I get 80+ silver or gold?)

[WoodenMarker]

What are your specs?

Efficiency doesn't really matter unless you're running a power hungry system, electricity is expensive, or you want to run a passively cooled psu. 

[BoopLoopy]

My specs will be; MSI b450 tomahawk, 2x 4gb or corsair LPX ddr4, Ryzen 5 2600X, a 1060 6GB overclocked to ~2065 and memory clock +525.

I'm fine with running a PSU that's cooled by its own fan.

[Herman Mcpootis]

the best PSU calculator to use is a good old-fashioned review. PSU calculators usually overestimate to the point where they're more random number generators than anything else.

a good 450w PSU will be more than enough for a 1060.

[mikedrewsmy]

4 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

My specs will be; MSI b450 tomahawk, 2x 4gb or corsair LPX ddr4, Ryzen 5 2600X, a 1060 6GB overclocked to ~2065 and memory clock +525.

I'm fine with running a PSU that's cooled by its own fan.

 

Get a good 550-650 and you'll be good to go.

[Spotty]

What system do you have? What CPU + GPU? (edit: Already answered. A good quality 450W unit would be enough for Ryzen 2600X + GTX 1060)
Most power supply calculators tend to overestimate quite a bit, and will recommend 650 or 750W for systems that will never exceed 450W.

 

Do you have a budget in mind of what you want to spend on your power supply? The Corsair TXm series are good power supplies, but I doubt you will need 650W. You may be better off with the Corsair TX550M instead.

[BoopLoopy]

14 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

What are your specs?

Efficiency doesn't really matter unless you're running a power hungry system, electricity is expensive, or you want to run a passively cooled psu. 

 

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the best PSU calculator to use is a good old-fashioned review. PSU calculators usually overestimate to the point where they're more random number generators than anything else.

a good 450w PSU will be more than enough for a 1060.

 

2 minutes ago, mikedrewsmy said:

 

 

Get a good 550-650 and you'll be good to go.

 

Okay, so I'll change my wattage to a 550W. What is a really good reliable/reputable brand to go with? Is be quiet! okay? Since my case and CPU cooler is by be quiet! might as well keep the theme going

[EsaT]

23 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

(Also should I get 80+ silver or gold?)

There are basically no even remotely new 80+ Silver PSUs.

I guess price difference in component cost to 80+ Gold is tiny, so low end PSUs have stayed in dozen years old 80+ Bronze level.

 

Anyway where do you live?

There are pricing differences between geographical areas.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the best PSU calculator to use is a good old-fashioned review. PSU calculators usually overestimate to the point where they're more random number generators than anything else.

For high end parts those calculators occasionally get it right.

But for mainstream parts it's complete crapshoot...

 

Anyway 150W should be enough for 1060 with clocks above Nvidia reference unless cranking crazy voltage.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/28.html

And for gaming CPU and rest are unlikely to draw much over 100W.

So 450W PSU has lots of margin.

Problem is really more in finding good PSUs at that rating, with 550W commonly being the smallest of the serie in good PSU models.

[BoopLoopy]

2 minutes ago, EsaT said:

There are basically no even remotely new 80+ Silver PSUs.

I guess price difference in component cost to 80+ Gold is tiny, so low end PSUs have stayed in dozen years old 80+ Bronze level.

 

Anyway where do you live?

There are pricing differences between geographical areas.

Well, I don't really fancy going over $150 AUD for a 550W PSU. Where I'm looking almost all of the 550W psu's are rated at 80+gold anyway.

[mikedrewsmy]

10 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

 

 

Okay, so I'll change my wattage to a 550W. What is a really good reliable/reputable brand to go with? Is be quiet! okay? Since my case and CPU cooler is by be quiet! might as well keep the theme going

I can vouch for Corsair RMi series.

 

Go for the RM550x.

[Spotty]

5 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

Well, I don't really fancy going over $150 AUD for a 550W PSU. Where I'm looking almost all of the 550W psu's are rated at 80+gold anyway.

If you're buying in Aus, Corsair or BeQuiet would be a good pick. You can only buy BeQuiet units from PCCG in Australia though, as they're the only authorised supplier in Aus.

Corsair RM550x = $140 AUD
Corsair TM550x = $120 AUD
BeQuiet Pure Power 10 CM = $100 AUD

BeQuiet Straight Power 11 = $160 AUD

 

The Straight Power 11 would be somewhat comparable to the RM550x in terms of quality (both Tier 1 on LTTs PSU tier list)
The Pure Power 10CM would be somewhat comparable to the TM550x in terms of quality (Both Tier 2 on LTTs PSU tier list)

 

For that system I'd personally go with the BeQuiet PurePower 10 CM for $100 as it's the best value and it's going to be more than capable of handling a GTX 1060 + Ryzen 2600X.

[BoopLoopy]

9 minutes ago, mikedrewsmy said:

I can vouch for Corsair RMi series.

 

Go for the RM550x.

What is your or others thoughts on the be quiet! Pure Power 10 CM 600W? It's been featured in a build guide (yes it was sponsored by, be quiet! but I still trust Linus and his crew to not to recommend crappy psu's) and has plenty of headroom for future GPU upgrades. Seen as though (hopefully) the 2080 series starts to lower the price of more mainstream 1070-1080 or even 1080ti cards.

[BoopLoopy]

4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

If you're buying in Aus, Corsair or BeQuiet would be a good pick. You can only buy BeQuiet units from PCCG in Australia though, as they're the only authorised supplier in Aus

Yeah, I'm not bothered with buying from PCCG, in fact, it is where my new pc wishlist is haha.

[seon123]

11 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

but I still trust Linus and his crew to not to recommend crappy psu's

You should really stop that. Their PSU choices are often absolute crap.

 

In Australia, the Antec units are well priced. The Earthwatts Gold Pro is a Focus rebrand, so it's fairly good. The Pure Power 10 is most definitely a budget PSU.

[EsaT]

6 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

What is your or others thoughts on the be quiet! Pure Power 10 CM 600W? It's been featured in a build guide (yes it was sponsored by, be quiet! but I still trust Linus and his crew to not to recommend crappy psu's) and has plenty of headroom for future GPU upgrades. Seen as though (hopefully) the 2080 series starts to lower the price of more mainstream 1070-1080 or even 1080ti cards.

Nvidias GPU's below big 1080 Ti are basically 200W or less consumption cards unless overclocked/volted, with 550W being plenty enough for them.

 

Pure Power 10 drops capacitor quality to step lower being clearly more of budget PSU.

[mikedrewsmy]

34 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

What is your or others thoughts on the be quiet! Pure Power 10 CM 600W? It's been featured in a build guide (yes it was sponsored by, be quiet! but I still trust Linus and his crew to not to recommend crappy psu's) and has plenty of headroom for future GPU upgrades. Seen as though (hopefully) the 2080 series starts to lower the price of more mainstream 1070-1080 or even 1080ti cards.

RMx please.

[BoopLoopy]

24 minutes ago, seon123 said:

You should really stop that. Their PSU choices are often absolute crap.

 

In Australia, the Antec units are well priced. The Earthwatts Gold Pro is a Focus rebrand, so it's fairly good. The Pure Power 10 is most definitely a budget PSU.

It's literally in their tier 2 list of PSU's, it can't be that bad.

[seon123]

9 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

It's literally in their tier 2 list of PSU's, it can't be that bad.

The Pure Power is a decent budget unit. Them choosing a good or crappy PSU is just random. 

[BoopLoopy]

22 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The Pure Power is a decent budget unit. Them choosing a good or crappy PSU is just random.

We'll think of it this way, it will be better than the Zalman ZM1000-HP PLUS (80+ silver) that we have had since 2012.

 

[Spotty]

47 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The Pure Power is a decent budget unit. Them choosing a good or crappy PSU is just random. 

I think these days LTT just grab whichever AXi 1000W+ unit isn't already in use in another system.

 

1 hour ago, seon123 said:

In Australia, the Antec units are well priced. The Earthwatts Gold Pro is a Focus rebrand, so it's fairly good. The Pure Power 10 is most definitely a budget PSU.

In my experience it's hard to find the good quality Antec units in Australia. Most of the popular local retailers don't stock the good quality Antec units, or they're only available for international orders from American stores (slow and costly delivery, plus import duties and fees).
Most local stores that I've seen only have the crappy Antec Basiq series PSUs available for sale, if they have any Antec units at all. For example, the store OP is buying his parts from (and also one of the more popular Aus PC stores): https://www.pccasegear.com/category/15_226/power-supplies/antec

There's probably some local stores that stock good quality Antec units, and I'm sure if I looked hard enough I could find a local store selling them, but it's not something that I see as being widely available.

 

I normally wouldn't recommend the Seasonic units for people in Australia either.
They're a bit easier to find than the quality Antec units, with even PCCG selling them, but they're overpriced compared to what they cost in America. A Focus Plus Gold 550W costs about $75 USD in America, but costs about $105 USD in Australia ($145 AUD).
That's compared to the Corsair RM550x which is much closer to parity is about $90 USD in America, but $100 USD ($140 AUD) in Australia. When you consider the Australian price includes 10% tax, it actually works out the same for most Corsair units. Same goes for BeQuiet units which also mostly work out the same as US/Euro pricing once you factor in currency conversions and tax.

So in Aus a Corsair RM550x (AUD$140) is cheaper than a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W (AUD$145). Between those two units I'd personally rather have the RMx.

[BoopLoopy]

6 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I normally wouldn't recommend the Seasonic units for people in Australia either.
They're a bit easier to find than the quality Antec units, with even PCCG selling them, but they're overpriced compared to what they cost in America. A Focus Plus Gold 550W costs about $75 USD in America, but costs about $105 USD in Australia ($145 AUD).
That's compared to the Corsair RM550x which is much closer to parity is about $90 USD in America, but $100 USD ($140 AUD) in Australia. When you consider the Australian price includes 10% tax, it actually works out the same for most Corsair units. Same goes for BeQuiet units which also mostly work out the same as US/Euro pricing once you factor in currency conversions and tax

You seem to be the most knowledgeable in this post. (I mean that in a good way). The be quiet! Pure Power 10 cm 600W is not a bad PSU and will last a long time and will be reliable. Yes or no?

[seon123]

30 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I think these days LTT just grab whichever AXi 1000W+ unit isn't already in use in another system.

 

In my experience it's hard to find the good quality Antec units in Australia. Most of the popular local retailers don't stock the good quality Antec units, or they're only available for international orders from American stores (slow and costly delivery, plus import duties and fees).
Most local stores that I've seen only have the crappy Antec Basiq series PSUs available for sale, if they have any Antec units at all. For example, the store OP is buying his parts from (and also one of the more popular Aus PC stores): https://www.pccasegear.com/category/15_226/power-supplies/antec

There's probably some local stores that stock good quality Antec units, and I'm sure if I looked hard enough I could find a local store selling them, but it's not something that I see as being widely available.

 

I normally wouldn't recommend the Seasonic units for people in Australia either.
They're a bit easier to find than the quality Antec units, with even PCCG selling them, but they're overpriced compared to what they cost in America. A Focus Plus Gold 550W costs about $75 USD in America, but costs about $105 USD in Australia ($145 AUD).
That's compared to the Corsair RM550x which is much closer to parity is about $90 USD in America, but $100 USD ($140 AUD) in Australia. When you consider the Australian price includes 10% tax, it actually works out the same for most Corsair units. Same goes for BeQuiet units which also mostly work out the same as US/Euro pricing once you factor in currency conversions and tax.

So in Aus a Corsair RM550x (AUD$140) is cheaper than a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W (AUD$145). Between those two units I'd personally rather have the RMx.

I'm just going from PCPP prices. The 750W Earthwatts Gold pro seems to be available?

https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B077GFQVR4/?tag=pcppau-22

[Spotty]

27 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

You seem to be the most knowledgeable in this post. (I mean that in a good way). The be quiet! Pure Power 10 cm 600W is not a bad PSU and will last a long time and will be reliable. Yes or no?

Thanks, but I'm really not

@seon123 is far more experienced and has much more technical knowledge than I do. Half the things that I know are from reading posts by him and a few other users on these forums. I'm still learning.

 

I may just have more experience with buying PSUs in Australia since I'm a true blue, so I'm familiar with what stuff PCCG stocks and what they don't, and what is a good buy in Australia and what isn't. Stuff like the Seasonic's Aus pricing I only know since I wanted to buy a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold to go in to my NAS machine, since it's such a good value unit in the USA, but was really disappointed by the local pricing.

 

Anyway, to answer your question the Pure Power 10 CM is a good unit. It's not on the same level as the RM550x and other exceptional units, but it's still a decent unit. There's a lot of far worse units out there. I'd happily run that PSU in a system with a 2600X + GTX1060 without any concerns.

The Corsairs TX550M will be a step up and a little bit better than the Pure Power 10 series from BeQuiet. Between the $110 for the Pure Power 10 600W and $120 for TX550M I'd personally pay the extra $10 and go the TX550M. The TX550M comes with a pretty decent 7 year warranty, compared to the rather pathetic 3 year warranty the BeQuiet Pure Power 10 comes with.
 

The RM550x is a fantastic unit, and one of, if not the, the best sub-$150 AUD units you will find.

 

10 minutes ago, seon123 said:

I'm just going from PCPP prices. The 750W Earthwatts Gold pro seems to be available?

https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B077GFQVR4/?tag=pcppau-22

Might want to check the delivery prices to an Australian address on that one
 

Spoiler

 

[seon123]

46 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Might want to check the delivery prices to an Australian address on that one

That makes it a tad more expensive.