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You don't really need a CPU upgrade. A 7700 wouldn't work with your mobo and would be a sidegrade at best, anyways. Just get yourself an SSD such as an MX500 and a good PSU to go with it. If you're on a budget, CX/CXM is a solid choice. If you're willing to pay a bit more, a focus, evga g1+/g2/g3, or rmx/rmi would be a good choice.

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Okay so I have a Cyberpower pc Intel i5-8400 Radeon Rx580 with the stock fans just got it 3 weeks ago and am Ight so far but I wanna upgrade some of the things in it for example it doesn’t come with ssds just regular 1tb hard drive with 6 core processer if you want you can find my pc and help too my power supply watt is 500w and motherboard is a bazooka Msi b360 gaming plus.but I was wondering if it’s best for me to update the power core to a 800-100w and update the intel to I7-7700 and update graphics card to GTX 1080 could I do all of that and be straight with cpu or should I get a liquid or air cooler for it? I’m sorry I’m all over the place with these questions but I’m new to this lol! Just want to know what’s should I do that’s best. I have a 144hz monitor and play lots of battle royale games and FPS games and some story games then and there ! My pc will be posted in pics for you guys to be extra help thank you !

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not sure what a "power core" is, or what 800-100W is supposed to mean, but what I can tell you is that the 7700 does not work with your motherboard. You can only upgrade to 8th series chips (and 9th when they come out, if you update your motherboard's BIOS.) You are on the right track with the idea of buying a better air cooler, an i7 will demand anything better than the stock intel cooler. The upgrade to the 1080 would also be suitable. I'm gonna assume the power core you referred to earlier is the power supply, in which case check out the PSU tier list on these forums, and I recommend anything higher than 700 watts. The tier list will indicate community discovered quality of said units.

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7 minutes ago, KidThatRages said:

Okay so I have a Cyberpower pc Intel i5-8400 Radeon Rx580 with the stock fans just got it 3 weeks ago and am Ight so far but I wanna upgrade some of the things in it for example it doesn’t come with ssds just regular 1tb hard drive with 6 core processer if you want you can find my pc and help too my power supply watt is 500w and motherboard is a bazooka Msi b360 gaming plus.but I was wondering if it’s best for me to update the power core to a 800-100w and update the intel to I7-7700 and update graphics card to GTX 1080 could I do all of that and be straight with cpu or should I get a liquid or air cooler for it? I’m sorry I’m all over the place with these questions but I’m new to this lol! Just want to know what’s should I do that’s best. I have a 144hz monitor and play lots of battle royale games and FPS games and some story games then and there ! My pc will be posted in pics for you guys to be extra help thank you !

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Why did you buy an 800$ with the intention of spending 1000+$ on upgrades?

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1 minute ago, KidThatRages said:

it doesn’t come with ssds

Ouch. This should become your top priority when exploring upgrades.

1 minute ago, KidThatRages said:

update the intel to I7-7700

i7 7700 will not work in a B360 board. If upgrading from the i5 8400 the logical choice would be the i7 8700.

6 minutes ago, KidThatRages said:

should I get a liquid or air cooler for it?

On a locked CPU a liquid cooler is a waste of money. If you want an air cooler, a Cryorig H7 will do nicely.

7 minutes ago, KidThatRages said:

update the power core to a 800-100w

This is recommended, yes. Cyberpower ships their PCs with crap quality PSUs unless you specify which one you want in your order (costs extra ofc).

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this is what i would do get yourself an ssd for your operating system double the ramm to 16gb you dont need a 1000w power supply but it might be advisable to upgrade to a 750w power supply if your gaming at 1440 a 1070 or 1070 ti graphics card will be enought you dont need a 1080

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this is what i would do get yourself an ssd for your operating system double the ramm to 16gb you dont need a 1000w power supply but it might be advisable to upgrade to a 750w power supply if your gaming at 1440 a 1070 or 1070 ti graphics card will be enought you dont need a 1080

and for you, I recommend a comma or two so that I don't run out of breath in my head

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Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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and for you, I recommend a comma or two so that I don't run out of breath in my head

have you never thought that the person who is trying to help might have dyslexia its a common condition also known as word blindness where it is difficult enought to string a sentance together let alone worry about the grammer natzies  commenting on your spelling

 

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You don't really need a CPU upgrade. A 7700 wouldn't work with your mobo and would be a sidegrade at best, anyways. Just get yourself an SSD such as an MX500 and a good PSU to go with it. If you're on a budget, CX/CXM is a solid choice. If you're willing to pay a bit more, a focus, evga g1+/g2/g3, or rmx/rmi would be a good choice.

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IfLol my bad man I meant power supply but yes thank you guys for he fast reply’s I am kinda dumb for buying a 800$ computer knowing I was gonna spend more money on upgrades in the future. Thank you guys for the help so quickly 

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2 minutes ago, thanos999 said:

have you never thought that the person who is trying to help might have dyslexia its a common condition also known as word blindness where it is difficult enought to string a sentance together let alone worry about the grammer natzies  commenting on your spelling

 

Grammar Nazis*

 

(Sorry I had to)

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4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

You don't really need a CPU upgrade. A 7700 wouldn't work with your mobo and would be a sidegrade at best, anyways. Just get yourself an SSD such as an MX500 and a good PSU to go with it. If you're on a budget, CX/CXM is a solid choice. If you're willing to pay a bit more, a focus, evga g1+/g2/g3, or rmx/rmi would be a good choice.

So your saying I don’t really need to upgrade to a i7-8700? But how can my i5 work with a gym 1080? Won’t my cpu go high ? Can you recommend me what Upgrades ylu think is best for me I’m looking for a new graphics card other then this rx580 and a air cooler because when running games like rainbow it gets up to 80degrees so tryna get that lower and a ssd card

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1 minute ago, KidThatRages said:

So your saying I don’t really need to upgrade to a i7-8700? But how can my i5 work with a gym 1080? Won’t my cpu go high ? Can you recommend me what Upgrades ylu think is best for me I’m looking for a new graphics card other then this rx580 and a air cooler because when running games like rainbow it gets up to 80degrees so tryna get that lower and a ssd card

Well I agree that the stock cooler on the CPU is crap, get a Hyper 212 EVO or anything larger than that as you won't see a noticeable difference below a 212 from a stock cooler. As for the GPU why do you want to change? If its toasty add more fans or add an aftermarket cooler.

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I wanna know if a i5-8400 cpu will work with a gtx 1080? Or will that not work as good considering since most new games recommend i7s ? or should I just keep the cpu I have and just upgrade the graphics card

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I wanna know if a i5-8400 cpu will work with a gtx 1080? Or will that not work as good considering since most new games recommend i7s ? or should I just keep the cpu I have and just upgrade the graphics card

You'll get bottlenecking depending on the game

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I wanna know if a i5-8400 cpu will work with a gtx 1080? Or will that not work as good considering since most new games recommend i7s ? or should I just keep the cpu I have and just upgrade the graphics card

Your i5 will work fine with a 1080. It has 6 cores so it can multitask a little, and the frequencies aren't really that bad. Even though a 7700 is an improvement, you're not exactly better off replacing the motherboard for it. 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Okay thank you this is the things I have in my cart should this be straight..?? Btw wasn’t looking to buy any of this stuff till cyber Monday lol

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1 minute ago, KidThatRages said:

Okay thank you this is the things I have in my cart should this be straight..?? Btw wasn’t looking to buy any of this stuff till cyber Monday lol

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Do not buy that PSU, take a look at the community tier PSU's unless you want a fire.

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I’m sorry but is the PSU the ssd card I’m sorry I’m new asf to this shit lol

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1 minute ago, KidThatRages said:

I’m sorry but is the PSU the ssd card I’m sorry I’m new asf to this shit lol

Psu = Power supply unit

The modular PSU you have in the cart is really low quality, take a look at the community tier PSU's

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Old Build (sold for 290€)

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6 minutes ago, KidThatRages said:

Okay thank you this is the things I have in my cart should this be straight..?? Btw wasn’t looking to buy any of this stuff till cyber Monday lol

 

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There's no point in having an 8700K on a B360 motherboard, as the chipset does not allow overclocking which the 8700K is designed to do. Go with the regular 8700.

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2 minutes ago, Julian5 said:

Psu = Power supply unit

The modular PSU you have in the cart is really low quality, take a look at the community tier PSU's

Can you recommend me a good power supply unit ?

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1 minute ago, KidThatRages said:

Can you recommend me a good power supply unit ?

Corsair AX series are nice, this one will give you some legroom for upgrades.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Supply-Platinum-Certified/dp/B00A0HZMEM

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Old Build (sold for 290€)

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7 minutes ago, KidThatRages said:

Can you recommend me a good power supply unit ?

Seasonic Focus+ Gold 550W.

New Build (The Compromise): CPU - i7 9700K @ 5.1Ghz | Mobo - ASRock Z390 Taichi | RAM - 16GB G.SKILL TridentZ RGB 3200CL14 @ 3466 14-14-14-30 1T | GPU - ASUS Strix GTX 1080 TI | Cooler - Corsair h100i Pro | SSDs - 500 GB 960 EVO + 500 GB 850 EVO + 1TB MX300 | Case - Coolermaster H500 | PSU - EVGA 850 P2 | Monitor - LG 32GK850G-B 144hz 1440p | OS - Windows 10 Pro. 

Peripherals - Corsair K70 Lux RGB | Corsair Scimitar RGB | Audio-technica ATH M50X + Antlion Modmic 5 |

CPU/GPU history: Athlon 6000+/HD4850 > i7 2600k/GTX 580, R9 390, R9 Fury > i7 7700K/R9 Fury, 1080TI > Ryzen 1700/1080TI > i7 9700K/1080TI.

Other tech: Surface Pro 4 (i5/128GB), Lenovo Ideapad Y510P w/ Kali, OnePlus 6T (8G/128G), PS4 Slim.

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Can you recommend me a good ssd card that’s the last thing I’ll need then I’ll update the cart again and post it

Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($123.50 @ Newegg Marketplace) 

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Old Build (sold for 290€)

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