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NVMe slot has a pre applied thermal pad (ROG Strix Z370-F)

Hello all,

 

I'm just building my new PC right now (motherboard Asus ROG Strix Z370-F) and when installing the NVMe in the slot M.2_1 I realised that there's a thermal pad in the 3D-Printed-Shield (supposed to be for the M2 slot). Picture below.

 

Is this thing safe at all? I saw it is touching some eletrical components just in this gap between the label of the WD Black and the connector (see in the second picture, the red circle). Then I removed the shield again and cut off 1 mm of the thermal pad to avoid this touch. But I am still feeling unease. Can this thing stick on my NVMe in the long term? Can it expand and "leak" to the motherboard?

 

Thank you in advance!

 

 

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No the thermal pads that Asus use are not electrically conductive which means you should have no problems, I had a similar issue in an Intel NUC and the NVME SSD continued working.

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I'd just throw away the entire decorative plate if there's an SSD in the slot. That thing blocks heat dissipation and thermal pads could leak fluid when it gets old,

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Hey Mark,

 

Thanks for the quick support.

 

When I removed the shield again, the thermal pad just slipped off it. Then I reapplied it to the shield. Do you how precise should the position of it be? I'm now afraid that it's a little bit offset...

 

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd just throw away the entire decorative plate if there's an SSD in the slot. That thing blocks heat dissipation and thermal pads could leak fluid when it gets old,

Thanks for the support Jurrunio. Does every thermal pad leaks fluid over the time?

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RAMPAGE

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 E0 @ 3825 MHz + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | MOBO: Asus Rampage Formula (X48) | VGA: Sapphire Nitro Radeon R9 380 4GB | RAM: G-Skill 8GB DDR2 1125 MHz CL5 | STORAGE: WD WD10EZEX Blue 1TB 64MB | PSU: Corsair CX600M | CASE: Zalman Z11 Plus

 

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1 minute ago, BRLeoBR said:

Thanks for the support Jurrunio. Does every thermal pad leaks fluid over the time?

hmmm hard to say. Many get dumped before having a chance to leak in front of someone who actually cares about it.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'd just throw away the entire decorative plate if there's an SSD in the slot. That thing blocks heat dissipation and thermal pads could leak fluid when it gets old,

The purpose of that thermal pad is to transfer heat to the metal cover to aid heat dissipation like a heatsink, because NVME drives get hot.

The shrouds only block heat dissipation when the drive is not thermally attached to the shroud or when the shroud is not made of metal.

Most thermal pads do not leech out oils over time, that is primarily an issue with EVGA thermal pads in the past, but even then the oils are not electrically conductive.

There is no risk to having the thermal pad contact the NVME drive.

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Just now, Enderman said:

The purpose of that thermal pad is to transfer heat to the metal cover to aid heat dissipation like a heatsink, because NVME drives get hot.

The shrouds only block heat dissipation when the drive is not thermally attached to the shroud or when the shroud is not made of metal.

Most thermal pads do not leech out oils over time, that is primarily an issue with EVGA thermal pads in the past, but even then the oils are not electrically conductive.

There is no risk to having the thermal pad contact the NVME drive.

I'm not sure if that metal piece is a heatsink or a heat trap? Also you'd want to get heat out of the controller, not the flash memory module, but no mobo designers care about that.

 

MSI AM3 mobos also leaked oil from their thermal pads (primarily underneath the Vcore heatsink) rather lot.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Honestly I think thermal pads and heat sinks on m.2 drives are a gimmick. The controller gets hot and may need cooling but with usual operation you should be ok without. The memory modules need to be hot to function better and should not receive active cooling

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