Good CPU's

[Repchich]

Well hello there. I just bought a gtx 1060 and im planning on buying everything else (pc components), so I would like to know what processor should I buy thats under 300$ and it has longevity. I'm planning on playing games like battlefield 1, Doom and so on. Any suggestions?

[Origami Cactus]

What is your entire budget? What components have you already bought?

Technically r7 2700x is under 300$.

[Phentos]

Ryzen 5 2600X, Ryzen 7 2700 or the i5 8600K would be the best options for less than $300.

 

it's up to you to decide whether you want the increased platform longevity and better value from Ryzen vs better overall single threaded performance from Intel.

[Senzelian]

I'd go either for the Ryzen 5 2600(x) or the Ryzen 5 2700(x)

[Repchich]

Just now, Origami Cactus said:

What is your entire budget? What components have you already bought?

Technically r7 2700x is under 300$.

My budget is somewhat around $800. Planning on buying DDR4 RAM supportive motherboard...

 

[Origami Cactus]

1 minute ago, Repchich said:

My budget is somewhat around $800. Planning on buying DDR4 RAM supportive motherboard...

 

Then r7 2700x, msi x470 motherboard, 16gb of 3200mhz ram. That should fit your budget, and should last a long time.

If that is too expensive then option 2 is r5 2600, msi b450 motherboard, 16gb of 3000mhz ram.

[Jurrunio]

cheapest Ryzen 6 core (even the 1600) will do, spend more on your memory and motherboard instead.

[Repchich]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

cheapest Ryzen 6 core (even the 1600) will do, spend more on your memory and motherboard instead.

It all comes now to this... ryzen 5 2600, or i5 8600k... not willing to spend the whole budget but I will if I have to

[Repchich]

10 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

Then r7 2700x, msi x470 motherboard, 16gb of 3200mhz ram. That should fit your budget, and should last a long time.

If that is too expensive then option 2 is r5 2600, msi b450 motherboard, 16gb of 3000mhz ram.

R7 is 450$, so I made this choice... i5 8600k vs ryzen 5 2600... planning on playing BF1 on ultra...

[Repchich]

19 minutes ago, Senzelian said:

I'd go either for the Ryzen 5 2600(x) or the Ryzen 5 2700(x)

The ryzen 5 2600... is it really that big of a difference with the 2600x one? Is it worth the extra $30? They are both at a respectable price so I think Im going with the ryzen...

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Repchich said:

It all comes now to this... ryzen 5 2600, or i5 8600k... not willing to spend the whole budget but I will if I have to

longetivity.... 8600k gets CPU upgrades (9th gen compatible with the same motherboards) that are better for games than Ryzen will, but in order to handle those 8 core CPUs overclocked, you need to spend more on the motherboard. In other words, Coffee Lake platform last longer, but Ryzen gives you more performance for your money

[Repchich]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

longetivity.... 8600k gets CPU upgrades (9th gen compatible with the same motherboards) that are better for games than Ryzen will, but in order to handle those 8 core CPUs overclocked, you need to spend more on the motherboard. In other words, Coffee Lake platform last longer, but Ryzen gives you more performance for your money

The ryzen is about 230$ im going about the same price,max, on a motherboard.

[Repchich]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

longetivity.... 8600k gets CPU upgrades (9th gen compatible with the same motherboards) that are better for games than Ryzen will, but in order to handle those 8 core CPUs overclocked, you need to spend more on the motherboard. In other words, Coffee Lake platform last longer, but Ryzen gives you more performance for your money

Help me out with this last thing. If I buy the ryzen 5 ill spend the same amount of money for a motherboard. Will it last me longer than a i5 8600k? Or at least reasonable close for the 50$ dollars less.

[Origami Cactus]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

longetivity.... 8600k gets CPU upgrades (9th gen compatible with the same motherboards) that are better for games than Ryzen will, but in order to handle those 8 core CPUs overclocked, you need to spend more on the motherboard. In other words, Coffee Lake platform last longer, but Ryzen gives you more performance for your money

wut.

Ryzen 7nm are also compatible with current am4 motherboards, but for intel 10nm you need a new mobo, so ryzen lasts longer.

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, Repchich said:

Help me out with this last thing. If I buy the ryzen 5 ill spend the same amount of money for a motherboard. Will it last me longer than a i5 8600k? Or at least reasonable close for the 50$ dollars less.

Ryzen 5 then, if that means a better motherboard. Since power draw of Ryzen 6 core CPUs are rising, it's better to have a good one from the start

 

5 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

wut.

Ryzen 7nm are also compatible with current am4 motherboards, but for intel 10nm you need a new mobo, so ryzen lasts longer.

 

Intel 9th gen isnt 10nm, but 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.

[Origami Cactus]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Intel 9th gen isnt 10nm, but 14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.

that is what im saying. ryzen am4 has supported first gen(14mm), second gen(14mm+/12mm) and it will also support third gen(7nm),

while with intel you always will need a new motherboard.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Origami Cactus said:

that is what im saying. ryzen am4 has supported first gen(14mm), second gen(14mm+/12mm) and it will also support third gen(7nm),

while with intel you always will need a new motherboard.

wait what? I'm not suggest getting 9th gen for 10nm, but for its 8 core and high single core performance without buying X299

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

wait what? I'm not suggest getting 9th gen for 10nm, but for its 8 core and high single core performance without buying X299

I know that 9th gen is just 8th gen refresh and it wont need a new mobo, but that is just 2 cpu generations (well technically 1), and after that you will need a new motherboard.

 

Your original quote was that intel lasts longer because you can put a new cpu in the same socket, but amd lasts longer, because in total am4 will support 4 cpu generations, but intel at most has supported 2.

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

I know that 9th gen is just 8th gen refresh and it wont need a new mobo, but that is just 2 cpu generations (well technically 1), and after that you will need a new motherboard.

 

Your original quote was that intel lasts longer because you can put a new cpu in the same socket, but amd lasts longer, because in total am4 will support 4 cpu generations, but intel at most has supported 2.

my 'logetivity' term is based on performance, not generation of CPU. Honestly, AMD showed us how new gen CPU can get worse than the old ones (FX versus Phenom 2), so I'm against going for a platform 'because it supports more new stuff'.

[Senzelian]

58 minutes ago, Repchich said:

The ryzen 5 2600... is it really that big of a difference with the 2600x one? Is it worth the extra $30? They are both at a respectable price so I think Im going with the ryzen...

The difference is just the clockspeed.
If you overclock the chip  it doesn't matter which one you pick. You can get both to the same clockspeeds.

[rfcokilljoy]

Ngl i think this is the best high end gaming/bang for buck mobo/cpu/ram combo right now. well under 800.

 

Spoiler

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-8700K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B07598VZR8/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1534159786&sr=1-3&keywords=i7+8700k&dpID=51-B%2BwxZoJL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Ripjaws-288-Pin-Desktop-F4-3200C16S-16GVK/dp/B0171GQXME/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1534159814&sr=8-3&keywords=16gb+3200mhz+ram&dpID=41ExJLT%2Bh6L&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

https://www.amazon.com/Z370P-D3-protection-Anti-Sulfur-Motherboard/dp/B077Y5JBQ5/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1534159859&sr=1-4&keywords=z370+motherboard&dpID=61YcpuLzwGL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

Sure the motherboard isnt "top of the line" but you'll only miss out on 100-200mhz on overclocks.