CPU Temp above 80C under full Load. Healthy?

[PatXioPC]

So my thermals under full load sometimes go over 80C.
I'm rocking the ryzen 2700x and to cool it down, the master liquid lite 120 from CoolerMaster (push-pull). 
I know this can temporality be normal but for long-term use, it may affect and degrade the die?         
I'm planning to upgrade to the NZXT Kraken x62. But is it worth the upgrade? How much my temps may go down with the pair of this?

[Sauron]

It's not dangerous, although if you're not comfortable with it you may want to upgrade. Still, it shouldn't affect your cpu's lifespan - just your oc potential. It's more likely to affect your cooler's lifespan to be honest, since it's probably ramping up to its max to keep your chip cool.

[Imbellis]

Under full synthetic load/renders, I'd say that that's normal; however, if you mean "full load" (as in running games), I agree that those temperatures are a bit high. Although that's a bit on the higher side, that shouldn't greatly affect the CPU's life.

 

Regardless, if you're looking to upgrade the cooler, I'd strongly recommend the Noctua D15. It would be cheaper (~$60 less) and quieter (~15 dBa less) than the NZXT x62 Rev.2; however, you'd run a couple degrees (~4C) warmer. (source)

[nick name]

12 minutes ago, PatXioPC said:

So my thermals under full load sometimes go over 80C.
I'm rocking the ryzen 2700x and to cool it down, the master liquid lite 120 from CoolerMaster (push-pull). 
I know this can temporality be normal but for long-term use, it may affect and degrade the die?         
I'm planning to upgrade to the NZXT Kraken x62. But is it worth the upgrade? How much my temps may go down with the pair of this?

What do you mean when you say full load? I can get into 80*C territory no problem with a 360 push/pull AIO, but that is using things like prime95 smallFFTs. Intel Burn Test doesn't get me to 80*C, however. So I guess what I am saying is we can't really tell you if that is normal or not without knowing what programs you're running.

 

Ryzen does run faster with cooler temps so definitely upgrade when you can.

[PatXioPC]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It's not dangerous, although if you're not comfortable with it you may want to upgrade. Still, it shouldn't affect your cpu's lifespan - just your oc potential. It's more likely to affect your cooler's lifespan to be honest, since it's probably ramping up to its max to keep your chip cool.

And I can't be too sure whether the temps don't go beyond 80s or not. In a lot of monitoring utilities, I see thermal readings of the CPU Die and the CPU (which I believe the IHS?) separately. Makes sense to see the die's temps being much higher than the CPU's, but I'm really confused, and don't really know what to be concerned about? Generally, under load, my Die's temps go up to 90C but the CPU's stays into the 80s. 

 

2 minutes ago, Imbellis said:

Under full synthetic load/renders, I'd say that that's normal;

Yea, the temps don't go up higher than when I run a synthetic stress test but a real world render makes the CPU hardly go beyond 75C. 

[Zando_]

Have you overclocked your CPU? My R7 2700X hasn't gone above 60-70 or so with the stock cooler...

[Imbellis]

9 minutes ago, PatXioPC said:

And I can't be too sure whether the temps don't go beyond 80s or not. In a lot of monitoring utilities, I see thermal readings of the CPU Die and the CPU (which I believe the IHS?) separately. Makes sense to see the die's temps being much higher than the CPU's, but I'm really confused, and don't really know what to be concerned about? Generally, under load, my Die's temps go up to 90C but the CPU's stays into the 80s. 

 

Yea, the temps don't go up higher than when I run a synthetic stress test but a real world render makes the CPU hardly go beyond 75C. 

I'm unsure if this is still a problem with Ryzen, but do you know if you've had or fixed the Δ20C problem? I think that they've fixed it with second gen, but I'm not certain.

 

Edit: You could always try reapplying thermal paste and mounting the cooler. That'd remove mounting from the equation.

[PatXioPC]

5 minutes ago, nick name said:

What do you mean when you say full load? I can get into 80*C territory no problem with a 360 push/pull AIO, but that is using things like prime95 smallFFTs. Intel Burn

When I want the Maximum reading possible, it would definitely be some intensive synthetic loads. It was mostly Aida64's FPU, Cache, and CPU stress tool which pushed my CPU this high, It idles around 45-50c and even during heavy renders from blender or encoding files and videos, the temps remain under 75C but it loses performance gradually since it reaches the 80s spot slowly, if not in an instant.   

[PatXioPC]

7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Have you overclocked your CPU?

I'm at stock, vcore 1.35V

 

8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

My R7 2700X hasn't gone above 60-70 or so with the stock cooler...

Did you put under intensive synthetic tests and there it didn't exceed 70C? Mine never goes up 75C under real-world loads of the application I use it for and the idle temp is 45-50C.

[Zando_]

Just now, PatXioPC said:

I'm at stock, vcore 1.35V

 

Did you put under intensive synthetic tests and there it didn't exceed 70C? Mine never goes up 75C under real-world loads of the application I use it for and the idle temp is 45-50C.

I haven't left it to stress test for a few hours yet, I can try that tonight while I eat dinner and stuff.

[Sauron]

10 hours ago, PatXioPC said:

And I can't be too sure whether the temps don't go beyond 80s or not.

 

As long as it stays below 95 or so it shouldn't suffer any damage, although at that point I'd question your cooler's conditions - it shouldn't get that high under normal operation.

 

-edit- *85

[nick name]

@Sauron The CPU is programmed to throttle at 85*C so you want to stay away from that. 

 

Did you set a VCORE of 1.35v or is that what you observe when you check the temperatures? If you have set the VCORE then I would change it back to Auto and at most at a +offset of a small amount.

 

I am currently testing my memory and the VCORE is showing 1.287v ~ 1.3v @ 4.125GHz. My current max since last reboot is 1.325v. I am using a small +offset of around .018v.

 

[Zando_]

@PatXioPC Aight, after running a stress test for 15 minutes or so it hit 52C or so max, but under full load (along with the GPU) doing folding, it hit a max of 83C. During gaming it usually stays around 60 though, since the GPU is running as well (adding more heat to the system).