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Upgrade to Ryzen 1600/2600 or wait for Zen 2?

Hello all,

 

So I am currently using an i5 6600 CPU, and my PC has been struggling a bit with Battlefield 1. The upcoming Battlefield V game will surely tax the CPU even more, so I am looking to upgrade to a 6 core or even 8 core CPU  with Hyperthreading.

 

I will also be using the PC for CAD / rendering work, so more cores is better.

 

Should I wait for Zen2 to come out in early 2019? Are big improvements expected over the current Ryzen lineup? I know they are going to a new 7nm process, so is this worth waiting for? I do want to buy something "future proof" so I am willing to wait a couple of months if it is worth the wait.


Thanks!

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Only you can determine if waiting 6 months is worth it.  Zen+ is great right now, Zen2 will be better. 

 

Future proofing isn't a thing.  We can only buy things that last a while, then buy more things to last a bit, etc.

 

Get a Zen+ CPU.  Enjoy the rest of 2018 in smooth FPS and rendering style.  No sense living with a shitty machine if you don't have to.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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10 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Only you can determine if waiting 6 months is worth it.  Zen+ is great right now, Zen2 will be better. 

 

Future proofing isn't a thing.  We can only buy things that last a while, then buy more things to last a bit, etc.

 

Get a Zen+ CPU.  Enjoy the rest of 2018 in smooth FPS and rendering style.  No sense living with a shitty machine if you don't have to.

Thanks, that makes sense.

 

I guess my question is: What kind of improvements are expected for Zen 2? Is it going to be similar to Zen -> Zen+ (meaning only about 10%), or would it be more like 20-25%? I assume with the change to 7nm the improvements should be bigger, right?

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1 minute ago, maartendc said:

I guess my question is: What kind of improvements are expected for Zen 2? Is it going to be similar to Zen -> Zen+ (meaning only about 10%), or would it be more like 20-25%? I assume with the change to 7nm the improvements should be bigger, right?

Should be, but that does not mean that it works that way.

Things get harder the smaller one goes and only the future can tell.

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I haven't done research into what the improvements are.  They'll most likely be incremental, 20%-25% sounds a bit liberal depending on cores/threads.  No one is coming out with massive gains, it doesn't make sense to blow your wad all at once.  

 

Even if it's 25%, is it worth it to enjoy great performance NOW and UNTIL THEN?  You're not really losing money, as the prices are what they are now, and counting future dollars on this scale is a waste of time.  Save that for your 401K investments.

 

Won't the Zen2 fit in Zen+ motherboards as well?  If so, you can sell the Zen+ and get a Zen2 next year, bingo bamm done!

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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