Budget build

[MRob11]

I’m looking to build a PC for a friend with a Ryzen 3, dedicated GPU, 8gb ram and a semi modular power supply and a case with a window, if anyone can send a link of a cheap build no more than 500$ it would be appreciated

[Metallus97]

usecase?

Region youre buing the parts in?

[MRob11]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

usecase?

Region youre buing the parts in?

In the US

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $511.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 15:07 EDT-0400

 

Id suggest stretching for this. See if you can find some deals at microcenter.

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $511.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 15:07 EDT-0400

 

Id suggest stretching for this. See if you can find some deals at microcenter.

verry nice build! Cheap a$$ case but thats ok here, every $ has to go into the CPU and GPU

[MRob11]

Thanks for the list 

 

23 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $511.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 15:07 EDT-0400

 

Id suggest stretching for this. See if you can find some deals at microcenter.

What 10 series card is the 570 equivalent to

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, MRob11 said:

What 10 series card is the 570 equivalent to

1050

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

1050

No. Way more powerful than a 1050, it's much closer to the 1060 3GB. 

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, MRob11 said:

What 10 series card is the 570 equivalent to

 

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

1050

Not the 1050. No, better than 1050ti

 

Slightly below the 1060 3GB if im not misstaken. Or the exact same, but it has more Vram, therefore holds better in newer titles.

[LienusLateTips]

19 minutes ago, MRob11 said:

Thanks for the list 

 

What 10 series card is the 570 equivalent to

1060 3GB.

 

But 1060 3GB has too little VRAM.

[Dryden]

2 hours ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.40 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Inland - Professional 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($24.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - Galaxy-01 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $511.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 15:07 EDT-0400

 

Id suggest stretching for this. See if you can find some deals at microcenter.

Yeah that case doesn't have a side window as requested by the OP and that PSU isn't semi modular... but yeah gotta stretch every dollar on that budge

[Dryden]

Notes:

-newer and slightly faster cpu

-240GB vs 120GB SSD

-case has side window

-PSU is fully modular

-you can buy a cheap 1TB HDD later.  

-good luck

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($36.37 @ B&H) 
Total: $520.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 17:39 EDT-0400

[seon123]

14 minutes ago, Dryden said:

-snip-

The CPU uses thermal paste instead of being soldered. The motherboard is crap. If you're getting a trash tier SSD, you might as well get the cheapest one. Adding a HDD is an extra cost, even if it comes later. The PSU is a loud fire hazard. And it's even more over budget. 

[Metallus97]

23 minutes ago, Dryden said:

Notes:

-newer and slightly faster cpu

-240GB vs 120GB SSD

-case has side window

-PSU is fully modular

-you can buy a cheap 1TB HDD later.  

-good luck

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($94.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Patriot - Viper 4 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($74.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($53.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4GB Video Card  ($169.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core G21 Tempered Glass Edition ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($36.37 @ B&H) 
Total: $520.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-05 17:39 EDT-0400

P PLEASE dont get this PSU is a firecracker and the mobo is shit to

the first build was better

yes it’s a little slower but ey don’t put yourselve in fire danger

[Dryden]

12 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The CPU uses thermal paste instead of being soldered. The motherboard is crap. If you're getting a trash tier SSD, you might as well get the cheapest one. Adding a HDD is an extra cost, even if it comes later. The PSU is a loud fire hazard. And it's even more over budget. 

Can you two backup your claims with sources?? 

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, Dryden said:

Can you two backup your claims with sources?? 

just take a look at the VRM of that mobo  

PSU: well... it’s made bu Super Flower. It won’t blow up

but won’t last longer than warrantie i guess 

[Dryden]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

just take a look at the VRM of that mobo  

PSU: well... it’s made bu Super Flower. It won’t blow up

but won’t last longer than warrantie i guess 

again.... sources not conjecture

[Dryden]

23 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The CPU uses thermal paste instead of being soldered. The motherboard is crap. If you're getting a trash tier SSD, you might as well get the cheapest one. Adding a HDD is an extra cost, even if it comes later. The PSU is a loud fire hazard. And it's even more over budget. 

yes it's over budget by $20 but OP can always drop down to 120GB SSD, drop down to a cheaper motherboard, and even drop the requirement of a side window and semi modular PSU... all of which would drop the final cost well below budget.  Posted builds and notes on this Forum are merely suggestions to considered by the OP and the decisions of course ultimately comes down to the OP. 

[seon123]

5 minutes ago, Dryden said:

Can you two backup your claims with sources?? 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-delidded,5475.html

The MSI B350 4+2 VRM uses Niko MOSFETs.

Variable BOM, meaning they are free to change the components as they wish to as crappy components as they wish. And there are obviously cheaper ones available. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramless-ssd-roundup,4833-8.html

A HDD is not free. Buying one would require an extra cost. That's how buying stuff with money works. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money

Cybenetics' testing for the B3 450W. Over 1000RPM even at fairly light loads. https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=database&manfID=36&volts=1

Being a fire hazard: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-450-b3-psu,5160.html

$510 is more than $500. $510-$520=-$10. Meaning $520 is more than $510, and you're over budget more than the other build. 

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

 

thanks! I did not have the time to find the sources

[Dryden]

11 minutes ago, seon123 said:

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-delidded,5475.html

The MSI B350 4+2 VRM uses Niko MOSFETs.

Variable BOM, meaning they are free to change the components as they wish to as crappy components as they wish. And there are obviously cheaper ones available. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dramless-ssd-roundup,4833-8.html

A HDD is not free. Buying one would require an extra cost. That's how buying stuff with money works. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money

Cybenetics' testing for the B3 450W. Over 1000RPM even at fairly light loads. https://www.cybenetics.com/index.php?option=database&manfID=36&volts=1

Being a fire hazard: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-450-b3-psu,5160.html

$510 is more than $500. $510-$520=-$10. Meaning $520 is more than $510, and you're over budget more than the other build. 

... and a budget exist for a reason.  If OP can't buy HDD now, he can buy it later; I don't know his money situation.   If you're suggesting that he get HDD over SSD, then I don't understand the logic behind that.     

 

Again, where does it state in that article that that particular PSU is a fire hazard?

 

For less than a $1 he can get the Kingston SSD instead? lol... is that a better choice???  

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/btDzK8/kingston-a400-240gb-25-solid-state-drive-sa400s37240g

 

... and how does using thermal paste vs soldering affect his choice of CPU with his budget of $500??

[Metallus97]

2 minutes ago, Dryden said:

... and a budget exist for a reason.  If OP can't buy HDD now, he can buy it later; I don't know his money situation.   If you're suggesting that he get HDD over SSD, then I don't understand the logic behind that.     

lol he is not  and never was 

[Dryden]

4 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

lol he is not  and never was 

yeah so that's why I don't understand why he bought up HDD. 

My suggestion about getting HDD later was just that... a suggestion. 

OP never mentioned HDD or SSD requirement.  

[seon123]

6 minutes ago, Dryden said:

... and a budget exist for a reason.  If OP can't buy HDD now, he can buy it later; I don't know his money situation.   If you're suggesting that he get HDD over SSD, then I don't understand the logic behind that.     

 

Again, where does it state in that article that that particular PSU is a fire hazard?

 

For less than a $1 he can get the Kingston SSD instead? lol... is that a better choice???  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/btDzK8/kingston-a400-240gb-25-solid-state-drive-sa400s37240g

I was pointing out things to note about your build. If the option is there, a 250GB SSD and adding a HDD later is preferable, but we don't know if that's an option. If it's not an option, the 120GB SSD + HDD is preferable.

 

Since you apparently need to be spoon fed information, here it is

Quote

The OCP triggering points on the minor rails are set quite high, especially at 5VSB. But that's nothing compared to OPP, which is improperly configured. In our case, the PSU's primary FETs couldn't handle the load, so they blew up. What worries us most is that the main fuse didn't blow as well, so every time you connect the damaged PSU to the mains network, fireworks ensue. That obviously shouldn't happen. Once something breaks on the primary side, the fuse has to blow so current doesn't pass through. As this PSU sits, it's a potential fire hazard.

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-450-b3-psu,5160-6.html

I've highlighted and underlined the relevant sentence for you.

 

This is the cheapest 240GB SSD. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8VfhP6/tcsunbow-x3-240gb-25-solid-state-drive-x3-240gb

That's $8 less than the SSD Plus. As I've said, if you're getting a garbage SSD, you might as well get the cheapest one. 

[Metallus97]

3 minutes ago, Dryden said:

yeah so that's why I don't understand why he bought up HDD. 

My suggestion about getting HDD later was just that... a suggestion. 

OP never mentioned HDD or SSD requirement.  

but every new pc should have a ssd