Multiplier jumping new CPU

[vjizzle2384]

Is That's normal it stays at x4 when it's on Ideal and nothing is running and goes up to  10 when somethings running goes to x16 x10 x16 x10 so I don't know if this is normal, my older CPU(Athlon x2 5200+) never did that I just stayed constantly on x13.5.  So is it normal for this chip to be jumping all over like that or did I do something wrong.  But the PC runs flawlessly.  Please let me know thanks a lotPlease let me know thanks a lot

[Electronics Wizardy]

thats it trying to save power. It will run at a lower speed if nothing needs the performance. This saves a bit of power, and for most uses, there is no reason to turn it off.

[Jurrunio]

just trying to save power by working less. As long as the frequency stays high when there's a task you want it to do, it's fine

[vjizzle2384]

Thank you I was worried my CPU was messing up

[vjizzle2384]

Do I need to upgrade my stock CPU cooler? It's stock that is what it is.  Went from Athlon X2 5200+(2.7Ghz) to Phenom X4 955 (3.2Ghz).  So upped it 2 cores and 500 Ghz.

[-rascal-]

1 hour ago, vjizzle2384 said:

Do I need to upgrade my stock CPU cooler? It's stock that is what it is.  Went from Athlon X2 5200+(2.7Ghz) to Phenom X4 955 (3.2Ghz).  So upped it 2 cores and 500 Ghz.

 

Wait...the Phenom II X4 955 should come with a beefier stock cooler.

My Phenom II X4 955 (rev C3) and Phenom II X6 1090T ... and FX-8350... came with a cooler with copper heatpipes.

 

 

 

Check what temperatures you are getting while gaming.

You ideally want to keep it under 70*C.

 

You can use something like HWMonitor, or HWinfo64 to check temperatures.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

https://www.hwinfo.com/

[vjizzle2384]

 The guy bought on Amazon is selling them in trays so I didn't get any CPU cooler I thought I was getting one but I didn't read the listing probably it was new but in a tray

[vjizzle2384]

I'll game today and see 

[vjizzle2384]

14 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Wait...the Phenom II X4 955 should come with a beefier stock cooler.

My Phenom II X4 955 (rev C3) and Phenom II X6 1090T ... and FX-8350... came with a cooler with copper heatpipes.

 

 

 

Check what temperatures you are getting while gaming.

You ideally want to keep it under 70*C.

 

You can use something like HWMonitor, or HWinfo64 to check temperatures.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

https://www.hwinfo.com/

If I do see heat problem what should I get, and NO water cooler don't trust it I'll take a picture of my case so you can see spacing 

[aezakmi]

14 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Wait...the Phenom II X4 955 should come with a beefier stock cooler.

My Phenom II X4 955 (rev C3) and Phenom II X6 1090T ... and FX-8350... came with a cooler with copper heatpipes.

 

-snip-

 

Check what temperatures you are getting while gaming.

You ideally want to keep it under 70*C.

 

You can use something like HWMonitor, or HWinfo64 to check temperatures.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

https://www.hwinfo.com/

those were the "new" coolers

 

my 4100 (2012) and 8350 (2013) came with the AM2 stock, never used the last one though because I got an H100i with the 8350

or maybe those heatpipe coolers were only sold in certain regions and not worldwide

[-rascal-]

2 hours ago, vjizzle2384 said:

If I do see heat problem what should I get, and NO water cooler don't trust it I'll take a picture of my case so you can see spacing 

 

What computer case do you have?

The case manufacturer will usually list the size, and you can follow that information.

 

The standard Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO will be enough.

Depends what is available in your region, but the Tier 5, 6, 7 coolers will be good.

140mm might be too big if you have a smaller computer case.

 

Given that you are using a lower grade motherboard, even if you are going to overclock, I would not push it very high.

Also, Phenom II CPU's ...on air cooling ... reaches maximum overclock at around 3.8 GHz ~ 4.0 GHz ..... if you are lucky, you could get 4.1/4.2 GHz.

THAT IS, if you have a good enough cooler + motherboard to push it that far.

 

2 hours ago, aezakmi said:

those were the "new" coolers

 

my 4100 (2012) and 8350 (2013) came with the AM2 stock, never used the last one though because I got an H100i with the 8350

or maybe those heatpipe coolers were only sold in certain regions and not worldwide

 

I believe the FX-4100 DID come with the aluminum-only heatsink.

Even the FX-6100 did...I think.

 

As for the FX-8350, it might be regional during the early times.

Did you get your FX-8350 with the metal box, or the cardboard box?

Seeing how the FX-81xx and FX-83xx CPUs are rated at 125W TDP, I would assume they would use the aluminum + copper heatsink.

 

 

[vjizzle2384]

 Well the bad luck continues so today I try to turn my computer on it comes on no display I'm thinking that my graphic card went out already so I unplug it and put it on my onboard GPU still nothing.    Come to find out the little snap on for my heat sink the little plastic broke so I'm guessing you need pressure on a CPU for it to work.   So I kinda rigged it with drilling a hole on the side that black plastic and zip tied it as tight as I could. And boom PC came on the temperature is a little bit high about 40 C  it's usually 35 Celsius. I guess the computer gods want to meet a replace my CPU cooler .  

Here is the pic of the cooler and case 

 

I know my case is shit I don't know how to find a case for this motherboard M2A VM to fit in if I could id buy A nice one and if anyone can find me one I would appreciate it a lot

 

[-rascal-]

13 minutes ago, vjizzle2384 said:

 Well the bad luck continues so today I try to turn my computer on it comes on no display I'm thinking that my graphic card went out already so I unplug it and put it on my onboard GPU still nothing.    Come to find out the little snap on for my heat sink the little plastic broke so I'm guessing you need pressure on a CPU for it to work.   So I kinda rigged it with drilling a hole on the side that black plastic and zip tied it as tight as I could. And boom PC came on the temperature is a little bit high about 40 C  it's usually 35 Celsius. I guess the computer gods want to meet a replace my CPU cooler .  

Here is the pic of the cooler and case 

 

I know my case is shit I don't know how to find a case for this motherboard M2A VM to fit in if I could id buy A nice one and if anyone can find me one I would appreciate it a lot

 

 

You can order a new bracket.

The black plastic mount bracket is held on by 4 screws.

Newegg / eBay will have them.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4SR1WT7072&cm_re=AM3_bracket-_-9SIA4SR1WT7072-_-Product

 

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO uses the stock bracket, and same locking mechanism, so you'll need to order a new one before installing it.

Some aftermarket coolers don't even use the stock bracket -- they will have their own mounting system.

 

The ASUS M2A VM is a standard mATX format motherboard.

Basically ANY mATX/ATX case that exists will work.

[vjizzle2384]

1 hour ago, -rascal- said:

 

You can order a new bracket.

The black plastic mount bracket is held on by 4 screws.

Newegg / eBay will have them.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4SR1WT7072&cm_re=AM3_bracket-_-9SIA4SR1WT7072-_-Product

 

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO uses the stock bracket, and same locking mechanism, so you'll need to order a new one before installing it.

Some aftermarket coolers don't even use the stock bracket -- they will have their own mounting system.

 

The ASUS M2A VM is a standard mATX format motherboard.

Basically ANY mATX/ATX case that exists will work.

i'll look into your suggestions Wow man thanks a lot for all your help i'll look into your suggestions

[-rascal-]

18 minutes ago, vjizzle2384 said:

i'll look into your suggestions Wow man thanks a lot for all your help i'll look into your suggestions

 

Oh sorry, the Hyper 212 EVO uses their own supplied mounting bracket and backplate.

(The Corsair A50 air cooler...yeah Corsair had air coolers...that I owned back in the day re-used the stock plastic mount)

 

Like I said before, depends on which cooler you decide to get or use.

 

Let us know if you need more help!

 

[Stefan Payne]

On 5.8.2018 at 4:16 AM, -rascal- said:

Wait...the Phenom II X4 955 should come with a beefier stock cooler.

Only the 125W TDP version ;).

In the later life of the Phenom 955 without BE was released with lower TDP of only 95W

 

So there is about half a dozen versions of the Phenom 955, C2 and the better C3 in BE and not in 125W and 95W....

[Stefan Payne]

On 5.8.2018 at 1:53 AM, vjizzle2384 said:

Is That's normal it stays at x4 when it's on Ideal and nothing is running and goes up to  10 when somethings running goes to x16 x10 x16 x10 so I don't know if this is normal, my older CPU(Athlon x2 5200+) never did that I just stayed constantly on x13.5.

Yes, that is totally normal and works as intended as they improved the power saving features with K10 and also later.

But your 5200+ should also be able to switch frequency, AFAIR it should have 3 Stages: 800 or 1000MHz and 1800MHz (though rarely seen). And the Athlon 64 was the first desktop processor that officially supported clock changes while running.

 

This thing isn't and was used in mobile computers for years and this feature was disabled for desktop processors. 

For example there were mods available for later Athlon XP systems (if you had a VIA Chipset) to change the frequency....

 

Anyway, your PSU doesn't look too good for more modern Systems. What do you have?
Some random thing with 25A or more on +5V and like 20A on +12V??

[vjizzle2384]

11 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Oh sorry, the Hyper 212 EVO uses their own supplied mounting bracket and backplate.

(The Corsair A50 air cooler...yeah Corsair had air coolers...that I owned back in the day re-used the stock plastic mount)

 

Like I said before, depends on which cooler you decide to get or use.

 

Let us know if you need more help!

 

So yesterday when i rigged the cooler, everytime i pull my heat sink the cpu is stuck on it.  I thought the metal locking supposed to hold it in place on my board.  I locked it in last time so i dont under stand.  the white tray moves back when i lift the lever and place the chip and lock it in.

[vjizzle2384]

17 hours ago, -rascal- said:

 

Oh sorry, the Hyper 212 EVO uses their own supplied mounting bracket and backplate.

(The Corsair A50 air cooler...yeah Corsair had air coolers...that I owned back in the day re-used the stock plastic mount)

 

Like I said before, depends on which cooler you decide to get or use.

 

Let us know if you need more help!

 

What think of this cooler any good I dont overclock https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-T4-18PK-R1-Contact-Heatpipes/dp/B00BSKY1M4 let me know 

[-rascal-]

5 hours ago, vjizzle2384 said:

So yesterday when i rigged the cooler, everytime i pull my heat sink the cpu is stuck on it.  I thought the metal locking supposed to hold it in place on my board.  I locked it in last time so i dont under stand.  the white tray moves back when i lift the lever and place the chip and lock it in.

 

Yeah, the locking system is not as secure compared to Intel's. I have pulled a few AM2/AM3 CPUs out of the socket when it was still locked down, too.

 

As long as you don't see any damage on the white socket, and no bent pins on the bottom of the CPU, you should be okay.

 

The best way I find is to:

 

1) Warm up the CPU first, so the thermal paste is warm and more "liquid". Basically use the computer for a little bit, like you normally would, then take the CPU out.

 

2) when removing the cooler/heatsink use a twisting motion. Not just pull up and away. Twist it left and right a few times, then slowly pull + twist.

 

23 minutes ago, vjizzle2384 said:

What think of this cooler any good I dont overclock https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-T4-18PK-R1-Contact-Heatpipes/dp/B00BSKY1M4 let me know 

The T4 is the little brother of the Hyper 212.

If you won't be doing any overclocking, it will do just as fine.