Mini GPUs vs ...Full sized?

[K i a r a]

Hey,

 

So ive had to revert back to my 1050ti, and was wondering.. I bought this GPU awhile ago, for like 130$ CAD (that should say how old it is)

but ive never understood or noticed, 

What is the diffrince between like a smaller card the "minis" vs the Full sized cards, with multipule fans? Is there a difference in clock speeds or something?

Normaly the minis are much cheaper then the full sized cards.

 

This is the mini 1050 I have. Here. 

[emosun]

the minis tend to run hotter and thermal throttle due to the small cooler. which is why you never recommend a 1060 mini

[Mi26]

The cooling would be better for the bigger cards as compared to the smaller cards

[aezakmi]

Just now, K i a r a said:

Is there a difference in clock speeds or something?

10-20MHz maybe, to avoid excessive throttling (not in a 1050 though, it doesn't overheats that much)

mini cards are designed to fit mATX or ITX builds, same with the low profile cards

[Froody129]

For the lower power cards not much really. 

 

12 hours ago, emosun said:

the minis tend to run hotter and thermal throttle due to the small cooler. which is why you never recommend a 1060 mini

They don't thermal throttle. 

 

12 hours ago, aezakmi said:

10-20MHz maybe, to avoid excessive throttling (not in a 1050 though, it doesn't overheats that much)

mini cards are designed to fit mATX or ITX builds, same with the low profile cards

Not even to avoid throttling. That's just marketing so there is still some incentive to buy the more expensive coolers. 

[K i a r a]

1 hour ago, Froody129 said:

For the lower power cards not much really. 

 

They don't thermal throttle. 

 

Not even to avoid throttling. That's just marketing so there is still some incentive to buy the more expensive coolers. 

Yea I was going to say, My card stays within 40c while playing games, Don't see an issues.

[matus177]

1 hour ago, K i a r a said:

Yea I was going to say, My card stays within 40c while playing games, Don't see an issues.

What the hell are you playing? I just cant see it being possible. 1060s wont stay at 40 degrees even when idle. I doubt that 1050ti is that cool.

3 hours ago, Froody129 said:

For the lower power cards not much really. 

 

They don't thermal throttle. 

 

Not even to avoid throttling. That's just marketing so there is still some incentive to buy the more expensive coolers. 

They do throttle. If you take something like zotac 1060 mini and put it under high load it downclocks because of temps. Most cards have default limit at 83 degrees. If they go past they downclock. Then there is gpu boost 3.0. You wont get same performance with full size card and mini. It is not just marketing. The coolin is just one thing. Many other things are to be considered e.g. quality of pcb.

[K i a r a]

2 minutes ago, matus177 said:

What the hell are you playing? I just cant see it being possible. 1060s wont stay at 40 degrees even when idle. I doubt that 1050ti is that cool.

BF1, pubG, Overwatch, GTA5

[matus177]

Just now, K i a r a said:

BF1, pubG, Overwatch, GTA5

What program are you using for monitoring and what is the exact model of the card? 

[K i a r a]

Just now, matus177 said:

What program are you using for monitoring and what is the exact model of the card? 

MSi Afterburner, And Hwidmonitor lol.

Its linked in the Original post.

[matus177]

2 minutes ago, K i a r a said:

MSi Afterburner, And Hwidmonitor lol.

Its linked in the Original post.

Sorry, did not notice that.

 

Something is wrong I can tell you. Those temps are wrong. That card should be at 60-70 degrees under load unless you are playing in freezer.  

[K i a r a]

5 minutes ago, matus177 said:

Sorry, did not notice that.

 

Something is wrong I can tell you. Those temps are wrong. That card should be at 60-70 degrees under load unless you are playing in freezer.  

idk what you want me to tell you lol.

are you tryna prove a point or

[matus177]

Just now, K i a r a said:

idk what you want me to tell you lol.

are you tryna prove a point or

Well yea. You asked mini vs full versions. So I tried to explain that there is difference. Then I was just shocked when I saw the temp. Just saying that I am almost sure that that card does not have 40 degrees under load. I do not know what causes those faulty readings maybe some previous drivers are messing with it or something. I just wanted you to know that there is a difference and I do not want you to male bad decision when or if the time comes for you to buy a new card.

[The Fedora]

small gpu for small case... small gpus look shit and cool worse... thats basically is all there is to it..

[Blademaster91]

Well the OP has a nice 460X case, yeah a full size GPU is gonna overclock better, but a 1050Ti doesn't get that hot.

Not sure how it's staying at 40C under load though.

[aezakmi]

4 hours ago, Froody129 said:

They don't thermal throttle.

imagine having a 1060 and gaming on a mini case with only 1 exhaust fan

 

 

[The Fedora]

6 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

Well the OP has a nice 460X case, yeah a full size GPU is gonna overclock better, but a 1050Ti doesn't get that hot.

Not sure how it's staying at 40C under load though.

is that u in ur picture... and yea ur right x

[emosun]

6 hours ago, Froody129 said:

They don't thermal throttle. 

and cows don't go moo

[Froody129]

15 minutes ago, emosun said:

and cows don't go moo

It's a 1050ti... my laptop keeps it at 53C while gaming. It's not thermal throttling 

[emosun]

Just now, Froody129 said:

It's a 1050ti... my laptop keeps it at 53C while gaming. It's not thermal throttling 

So your laptop isn't a laptop correct? it's a desktop with 1050 mini in it correct?

becuase i know there's no way someone just tried to justify giving bad advice because their totally different machine doesn't have an issue.

give me a 1050 and 5 mins and i'll overheat it real quick.