First time getting into PC building

[mkamalo]

Just now, Phentos said:

NZXT S340 Elite, H700 or the H700i are what I recommend from NZXT. For Coolermaster decent cases include the H500 or any of its variants, with the H500P being probably the best choice because of larger fans. A budget alternative for Coolermaster would be the Masterbox Lite series. 

Thanks alot, I will keep them in mind. DO you have any recommendations regarding these?

 

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1. For mouse and keyboard and speakers I am also having an issue, I like razer stuff, but I also want to sync my rig with Aura RGB, and the only ones that do so is ASUS mouse and keyboard and from what I hear alot that they are very bad. So just for general price estimates, I went for Razer Huntsman Elite RGB, Razer Mamba Elite RGB, Razer Nommo Chroma speakers.

 

[mkamalo]

Just now, InMiseryWeSeekPancakes said:

Holy crap dude you can use it i mean like if you want too honestly go ahead but I've been like taught all my life never put water in a computer and then *poof* its like popular af. As long as the cooler supports the processor socket in this case its a am4 socket. 

Most of my friends use it, due to the insane temperatures here, sometimes going up to 58 degrees Celsius, water cooling is a must haha

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

For airflow like I said the corsair 720p airflow editon is really quiet and is amazing for airflow and has a lot of room for fans and has all the bells and whistles and its kinda keeping that ergonomic vibe if your into that sort of thing  

[Phentos]

1 minute ago, mkamalo said:

Thanks alot, I will keep them in mind. DO you have any recommendations regarding these?

 

 

I have a strong distaste for Razer products, so my honest recommendation is going to be to avoid them. How's the market for Logitech peripherals? Their keyboards are very good and their mice are quite decent, though prone to double clicking in some models. 

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

1 minute ago, mkamalo said:

 

2 minutes ago, InMiseryWeSeekPancakes said:

Holy crap dude you can use it i mean like if you want too honestly go ahead but I've been like taught all my life never put water in a computer and then *poof* its like popular af. As long as the cooler supports the processor socket in this case its a am4 socket. 

Most of my friends use it, due to the insane temperatures here, sometimes going up to 58 degrees Celsius, water cooling is a must haha

 

yeah, sounds good if you want to include it in your build by all means go ahead 

[mkamalo]

Just now, Phentos said:

I have a strong distaste for Razer products, so my honest recommendation is going to be to avoid them. How's the market for Logitech peripherals? Their keyboards are very good and their mice are quite decent, though prone to double clicking in some models. 

For these, Razer has a massive market here with steel series. Also Alienware, Asus and MSI have a strong foot in the market, Logitech is only available for the average consumers with cheap keyboards and mice for normal office use and not gaming.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

1 minute ago, Phentos said:

m. How's the market for Logitech peripherals?

All I want is the mechanical version of a g15 and ill buy it Idc the price lol

 

I love logitech as for there mice and keyboards.

[mkamalo]

1 minute ago, InMiseryWeSeekPancakes said:

yeah, sounds good if you want to include it in your build by all means go ahead 

Thanks alot for all the help mate, appreciated

[Spotty]

Just now, mkamalo said:

This is better, but they do not sell Ryzen here unfortunately. And don't you think I may need a 250 GBS M.2 for the OS only?

Swap the SATA SSD out for an Cruical MX500 500GB M.2 NVME drive for your OS. Costs the same as the SATA one the other user picked.

Also don't buy the EVGA G3. It's failed some overprotection testing recently and it may fail. The RM750x you had selected earlier would be better than the EVGA G3, though you will only need <550W for that build.

 

32 minutes ago, mkamalo said:

My thoughts on parts are as follows:

1. Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor
2. NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
3. Asus - ROG MAXIMUS X HERO (WI-FI AC) ATX
4. G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
5. Kingston 250GB M.2 Solid State Drive for OS only
6. Kingston 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
7. Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
8. Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX
9. Inwin - 805 Infinity ATX Mid Tower Case
10. Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX
11. NZXT - Aer RGB120 (3-pack) 61.4 CFM 120mm (Extra Fans)

That Inwin Infinity is a very expensive case? It's listed at over $300 on PCpartpicker. I've swapped it in for the Inwin Black case as it is half the price, but I normally don't like recommending cases since it's an aesthetics and personal taste thing, though I would recommend you having a look around for something more reasonably priced than the Inwin Infinity. Your money so it's up to you, but worth considering.

 

36 minutes ago, mkamalo said:

In addition to gaming, I do a lot of rendering for my engineering work, and I also do video editing in my free time for extra cash, therefore I need a screen with a lot of real estate.

I've left the monitor out, but you should look for a 4k colour correct monitor rather than a 1440p 144hz gaming monitor which might not have the truest of colours. 4k will give you a lot more real estate to work with (it's 4x 1080p monitors).

I've also swapped the 4x8GB memory out for 2x16GB memory that way you have more DIMM slots available if in the future you need to upgrade memory beyond 32GB for your engineering work.
 

Intel:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  ($347.89 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($141.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($163.90 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($340.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($764.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Inwin - 805 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($150.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2267.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-01 02:12 EDT-0400

AMD:

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($141.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($155.00 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($340.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($764.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Inwin - 805 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($150.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2230.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-08-01 02:11 EDT-0400

 

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

Just now, mkamalo said:

 

2 minutes ago, Phentos said:

I have a strong distaste for Razer products, so my honest recommendation is going to be to avoid them. How's the market for Logitech peripherals? Their keyboards are very good and their mice are quite decent, though prone to double clicking in some models. 

For these, Razer has a massive market here with steel series. Also Alienware, Asus and MSI have a strong foot in the market, Logitech is only available for the average consumers with cheap keyboards and mice for normal office use and not gaming.

 

As for keyboards, if your doing typing a lot the cherry mx blues are a dream to type on but if your doing gaming as well cherry mx browns are really good, if you like razer thats good and all and I have some friends that really like em as well but Im only buying razer laptops or there mice if I'm buying anything from razer. my favorite mice from razer is there death adder elite so if you go with any other razer mice go with that and as for the huntsman elite that you talked about I've never really tried it so i can't give my opinion on it yet. I would consider it for in between gaming and typing so i would say its good.

[Phentos]

Just now, mkamalo said:

For these, Razer has a massive market here with steel series. Also Alienware, Asus and MSI have a strong foot in the market, Logitech is only available for the average consumers with cheap keyboards and mice for normal office use and not gaming.

Wow your choices are quite limited then 

 

Steelseries peripherals are considered to be very decent, though I personally had a horrible experience back in 2011 regarding my old Steelseries 7G keyboard in which they refused to honor the warranty when the keyboard began to give out after only 11 months of use. I treated the keyboard extremely well and there was no evidence of user-caused damage, but they still declined the claim.

 

I resolved to never purchase another Steelseries product again, ever.

[InMiseryWeSeekPancakes]

yeah uh guys its been a good run and honesty I think he can decide this by now and i think its kinda solved and plus its 2 am where I'm at so i need rest...

[mkamalo]

2 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Swap the SATA SSD out for an Cruical MX500 500GB M.2 NVME drive for your OS. Costs the same as the SATA one the other user picked.

Also don't buy the EVGA G3. It's failed some overprotection testing recently and it may fail. The RM750x you had selected earlier would be better than the EVGA G3, though you will only need <550W for that build.

 

That Inwin Infinity is a very expensive case? It's listed at over $300 on PCpartpicker. I've swapped it in for the Inwin Black case as it is half the price, but I normally don't like recommending cases since it's an aesthetics and personal taste thing, though I would recommend you having a look around for something more reasonably priced than the Inwin Infinity. Your money so it's up to you, but worth considering.

 

I've left the monitor out, but you should look for a 4k colour correct monitor rather than a 1440p 144hz gaming monitor which might not have the truest of colours. 4k will give you a lot more real estate to work with (it's 4x 1080p monitors).

I've also swapped the 4x8GB memory out for 2x16GB memory that way you have more DIMM slots available if in the future you need to upgrade memory beyond 32GB for your engineering work.
 

Intel:

AMD:

 

Thanks alot for taking the time to post this.

 

My desk space is limited so I can have either one large Ultrawide monitor, or two slightly smaller ones, like 2 x 27" ones.

 

About the RAM, I do small scale engineering work so I doubt I will be using above 32 GBs of ram.

 

For the case, I want something that also looks nice as well as perform good, I live in the hottest country in the world so airflow is the biggest priority here, you recommend particular cases that are not corsair (as the market here doesn't really like this brand for some reason)

[mkamalo]

7 minutes ago, Phentos said:

Wow your choices are quite limited then 

 

Steelseries peripherals are considered to be very decent, though I personally had a horrible experience back in 2011 regarding my old Steelseries 7G keyboard in which they refused to honor the warranty when the keyboard began to give out after only 11 months of use. I treated the keyboard extremely well and there was no evidence of user-caused damage, but they still declined the claim.

 

I resolved to never purchase another Steelseries product again, ever.

I can't take a vacation off work until I finish 6 months, I may just wait out on the peripherals and buy them back home in the UK. Do you know anything about the truthfulness regarding the bad ASUS mice and keyboards?

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, mkamalo said:

Thanks alot for taking the time to post this.

 

My desk space is limited so I can have either one large Ultrawide monitor, or two slightly smaller ones, like 2 x 27" ones.

 

About the RAM, I do small scale engineering work so I doubt I will be using above 32 GBs of ram.

 

For the case, I want something that also looks nice as well as perform good, I live in the hottest country in the world so airflow is the biggest priority here, you recommend particular cases that are not corsair (as the market here doesn't really like this brand for some reason)

Sorry, when I said 4k = 4x 1080p monitors I meant that the resolution was 4x that of 1080p monitors, not the physical size. The physical size of the monitor is whatever size you buy it in. From what you've described, it sounds as if something like a 32" HDR 4k monitor (colour accurate) would be ideal for you. (I'm not too familiar with colour correct monitors for editing, so it might be worthwhile asking over on the monitor board for more help).

 

What country are you in? Might help us find parts that are available.

As for the peripherals, I'd personally stay away from Razer products. They look beautiful, but their warranty periods aren't that great, often the minimum that the local laws require, and in my personal experience the build quality on a lot of the products isn't great either.
Can't speak for ASUS peripherals, haven't used them personally and I don't know much about them.

[Phentos]

9 minutes ago, mkamalo said:

I can't take a vacation off work until I finish 6 months, I may just wait out on the peripherals and buy them back home in the UK. Do you know anything about the truthfulness regarding the bad ASUS mice and keyboards?

Can't comment on that, sorry. 

 

15 minutes ago, mkamalo said:

For the case, I want something that also looks nice as well as perform good, I live in the hottest country in the world so airflow is the biggest priority here, you recommend particular cases that are not corsair (as the market here doesn't really like this brand for some reason)

In that case the Coolermaster H500P case I mentioned earlier is probably the best option for you. That case has excellent airflow thanks to its dual 200mm front mounted fans.

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, Phentos said:

In that case the Coolermaster H500P case I mentioned earlier is probably the best option for you. That case has excellent airflow thanks to its dual 200mm front mounted fans.

Just make sure you get the 'H500P Mesh' version, not the one with the tempered glass front panel that restricts the air flow.

[mkamalo]

2 minutes ago, Phentos said:

Can't comment on that, sorry. 

 

In that case the Coolermaster H500P case I mentioned earlier is probably the best option for you. That case has excellent airflow thanks to its dual 200mm front mounted fans.

Thanks alot for everything mate, really appreciated.

[mkamalo]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

Just make sure you get the 'H500P Mesh' version, not the one with the tempered glass front panel that restricts the air flow.

I kinda wanna be able to look into my system though

[Phentos]

Just now, mkamalo said:

I kinda wanna be able to look into my system though

Can always look in from the side 

[mkamalo]

Just now, Phentos said:

Can always look in from the side 

Doesnt mesh means that both sides dont have glass?

[Spotty]

Just now, mkamalo said:

I kinda wanna be able to look into my system though

You still can with the Mesh. The problem with the glass front panel is it heavily restricts the air that those 2 large intake fans can draw in. It's a well documented issue and it's why Coolermaster released the Mesh version to address those issues.

 

Just now, mkamalo said:

Doesnt mesh means that both sides dont have glass?

No, it's just the front intake panel that is replaced with a mesh grill. The side panel is still tempered glass.

Here's a look at the H500P Mesh

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[mkamalo]

Just now, Spotty said:

You still can with the Mesh. The problem with the glass front panel is it heavily restricts the air that those 2 large intake fans can draw in. It's a well documented issue and it's why Coolermaster released the Mesh version to address those issues.

 

No, it's just the front intake panel that is replaced with a mesh grill. The side panel is still tempered glass.

Here's a look at the H500P Mesh

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Oh alright, well in that case its better option. I thought the mesh would be on the glass side