2nd build / full upgrade!

[zakman]

Hello everyone!

 

I'm building a new rig after 6 years sticking with my old rig which went through multiple drops, slams, short circuits and blue screens and finally died yesterday (while playing fortnite  ) when the 7770 gave way. I suspect the PSU also didn't make it either hence the full upgrade.

 

Anyway after being out of the game for so long, I did some intensive, but brief, research and this is what I came up with. (p.s: my ideal budget is between £600-£750)

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LjWQGG
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LjWQGG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350M PRO-VDH Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£59.81 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£160.01 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card  (£209.99 @ Aria PC) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.79 @ Alza) 
Total: £756.29
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-23 23:50 BST+0100

 

I'm not sure if this is a good setup, but I've heard great things about Ryzen and the 1060. Also, I want to go for a white case look with tempered glass panel (and maybe some RGB)

 

One thing I'm not too sure about is what to cool the CPU with. Any help would be much appreciated!

 

**EDIT: forgot to mention, I want to use this rig mainly for gaming and music production. For gaming I am not really into new games and so will mostly be playing Rising Storm 2 and RB6S as the higher end of games on my list. As for music production, I use Ableton Live 9 and have an audio interface so that should be sorted**

 

Cheers,

Zak

[RAM555789]

If you could put out another 100 Euro you could get a Ryzen 2600 and a good motherboard, and air cooler for overclocking, however if you can't see if you could afford a better motherboard with the air cooler from the parts list so you can get a good overclock on the Ryzen 1600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£158.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£119.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£160.01 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card  (£209.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.79 @ Alza)
Total: £866.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:04 BST+0100

[Nocte]

Better GPU and motherboard:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS Black Core Edition Video Card  (£231.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £747.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:08 BST+0100

[zakman]

5 minutes ago, Nocte said:

Better GPU and motherboard:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.96 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS Black Core Edition Video Card  (£231.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£47.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £747.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:08 BST+0100

I would be more inclined to get this on second thought, as I am also considering updating my monitor. I haven't heard of the 580 before, is it bench marked better against the 1060? 

8 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

If you could put out another 100 Euro you could get a Ryzen 2600 and a good motherboard, and air cooler for overclocking, however if you can't see if you could afford a better motherboard with the air cooler from the parts list so you can get a good overclock on the Ryzen 1600.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (£158.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£119.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£160.01 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£24.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Dual Video Card  (£209.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£53.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.79 @ Alza)
Total: £866.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:04 BST+0100

I wouldn't be able to justify spending the extra £100 as I would use it to save for a new monitor potentially down the line. I will however steal that CPU cooler off your list! Cheers.

[seon123]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Seagate - Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£23.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  (£239.96 @ More Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.79 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 CM 400W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£44.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £753.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:14 BST+0100

[zakman]

3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Seagate - Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£23.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  (£239.96 @ More Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.79 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 CM 400W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£44.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £753.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:14 BST+0100

This has also grabbed my attention. With regards to CPU cooling is there a need for that on this CPU or is it cooled from the stock heat sink?

[seon123]

Just now, zakman said:

This has also grabbed my attention. With regards to CPU cooling is there a need for that on this CPU or is it cooled from the stock heat sink?

The 1600 comes with the 95W Wraith Spire cooler, which is decent. Unlike the paperweights Intel likes to include

[Moress]

10 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The 1600 comes with the 95W Wraith Spire cooler, which is decent. Unlike the paperweights Intel likes to include

It doesn't even look good enough to use as a paperweight

[Nocte]

17 minutes ago, seon123 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£61.94 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£139.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£54.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: *Seagate - Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£23.99 @ Aria PC) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  (£239.96 @ More Computers) 
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£43.79 @ Aria PC) 
Power Supply: be quiet! - Pure Power 10 CM 400W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£44.99 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £753.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 00:14 BST+0100

The 8GB version of the GPU is cheaper...

 

19 minutes ago, zakman said:

I would be more inclined to get this on second thought, as I am also considering updating my monitor. I haven't heard of the 580 before, is it bench marked better against the 1060? 

I wouldn't be able to justify spending the extra £100 as I would use it to save for a new monitor potentially down the line. I will however steal that CPU cooler off your list! Cheers.

The 580 is much better than the 1060 3GB, and is on par the 1060 6GB (it usually has better FPS in DX12 games). 

[zakman]

12 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The 1600 comes with the 95W Wraith Spire cooler, which is decent. Unlike the paperweights Intel likes to include

Sweet as pal! 

 

I'm gonna research some more into this and probably buy this!

[zakman]

6 minutes ago, Nocte said:

The 8GB version of the GPU is cheaper...

 

The 580 is much better than the 1060 3GB, and is on par the 1060 6GB (it usually has better FPS in DX12 games). 

Where did you see that the 8GB version is cheaper? 

 

Just curious

[seon123]

10 minutes ago, Nocte said:

The 8GB version of the GPU is cheaper...

Only according to PCPP. Click the link to the Amazon store page. PCPP is a bit broken with Amazon pricing. 

[RAM555789]

33 minutes ago, zakman said:

Where did you see that the 8GB version is cheaper? 

 

Just curious

The performance difference in marginal in some cases, it really depends on the style and graphics of a game, as some games favor AMD or Nvidia architecture. Unless you find it pretty similarly priced I would just stick with the 1060 3GB. If you compare the 1060 6GB with the RX 580, you will see similar trends in games such as the Witcher 3 outperforming with the RX 580 while in other games like Fallout 4 you'll see slightly better fps out of Nvidia. Personally I wouldn't shell out the extra cash, as I don't see DX12 becoming that mainstream until the next generation of consoles.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-AMD-RX-580/3646vs3923

[zakman]

4 minutes ago, RAM555789 said:

The performance difference in marginal in some cases, it really depends on the style and graphics of a game, as some games favor AMD or Nvidia architecture. Unless you find it pretty similarly priced I would just stick with the 1060 3GB. If you compare the 1060 6GB with the RX 580, you will see similar trends in games such as the Witcher 3 outperforming with the RX 580 while in other games like Fallout 4 you'll see slightly better fps out of Nvidia. Personally I wouldn't shell out the extra cash, as I don't see DX12 becoming that mainstream until the next generation of consoles.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-AMD-RX-580/3646vs3923

My only concern is with the the vram. Going from 3GB to 8GB is quite the leap and if it is within reasonable reach of my wallet I'd be happy to fork out the extra ££. I've read a lot of articles etc stating how important it is but I'm not sure myself if it's worth it. If the price difference is around £30 as some youtubers have stated then I don't see a reason as to why not

 

thanks for the link!

[RAM555789]

1 minute ago, zakman said:

My only concern is with the the vram. Going from 3GB to 8GB is quite the leap and if it is within reasonable reach of my wallet I'd be happy to fork out the extra ££. I've read a lot of articles etc stating how important it is but I'm not sure myself if it's worth it. If the price difference is around £30 as some youtubers have stated then I don't see a reason as to why not

 

thanks for the link!

Yeah, as I said its all about your game set, and what you play. If you stick to more standard triple A titles like COD, BF, or lighter games like over watch, fornite, ect. Your just not going to benefit from that extra VRAM, however in games like The Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and other games with more intensive graphics, you'll see a need for more VRAM in scenes that have more texture detail in them.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

@zakman A tad over budget but a much more solid PSU and SSD

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KcXw7W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KcXw7W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) - Good choice, the 1600 is the best value CPU on the market
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers)  -Normally wouldn't reccomend an MSI motherboard but the ASUS STRIX B350-F is much more expensive. If you've got £30 to spare I'd recommend that instead but this will do OK
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£138.49 @ CCL Computers) - Cheapest 16GB kit
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£42.99 @ CCL Computers) - The A400 is a piece of crap and 120GB will only hold OS and a few programs. 240GB can hold a game or 2 and a bunch of applications
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC) - 1TB data drive
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS Black Core Edition Video Card  (£231.95 @ Amazon UK) - RX 580 8GB beats the 1060 3GB into the ground
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.96 @ Ebuyer) - Better than the S340. TG too.
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.98 @ Aria PC) - The M12II you had in there before is only cheap cause it's an old group-reg unit. This is much better and will last years
Total: £790.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 01:30 BST+0100

[zakman]

8 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

@zakman A tad over budget but a much more solid PSU and SSD

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KcXw7W
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/KcXw7W/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  (£144.00 @ Amazon UK) - Good choice, the 1600 is the best value CPU on the market
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£69.98 @ CCL Computers)  -Normally wouldn't reccomend an MSI motherboard but the ASUS STRIX B350-F is much more expensive. If you've got £30 to spare I'd recommend that instead but this will do OK
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  (£138.49 @ CCL Computers) - Cheapest 16GB kit
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£42.99 @ CCL Computers) - The A400 is a piece of crap and 120GB will only hold OS and a few programs. 240GB can hold a game or 2 and a bunch of applications
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£34.74 @ Aria PC) - 1TB data drive
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8GB GTS Black Core Edition Video Card  (£231.95 @ Amazon UK) - RX 580 8GB beats the 1060 3GB into the ground
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£47.96 @ Ebuyer) - Better than the S340. TG too.
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.98 @ Aria PC) - The M12II you had in there before is only cheap cause it's an old group-reg unit. This is much better and will last years
Total: £790.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-24 01:30 BST+0100

Ahhh so many good options haha thank you so much everyone. I can easily see myself spending more and more and more on this thing! Anyway, with regards to the motherboard, why would you not choose an MSI motherboard?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, zakman said:

Ahhh so many good options haha thank you so much everyone. I can easily see myself spending more and more and more on this thing! Anyway, with regards to the motherboard, why would you not choose an MSI motherboard?

ASUS and AsRock both make better boards and some (many) Gigabyte boards are better than MSi's competing board in the same price range. MSi's BIOSes are awful and the boards are unreliable

 

[zakman]

8 hours ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

ASUS and AsRock both make better boards and some (many) Gigabyte boards are better than MSi's competing board in the same price range. MSi's BIOSes are awful and the boards are unreliable

 

Thanks so much pal! Gonna put some more research into what you said and come up with a decision, but your list is looking great. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

7 hours ago, zakman said:

Thanks so much pal! Gonna put some more research into what you said and come up with a decision, but your list is looking great. 

Not a problem. Feel free to PM with with any questions