Gaming/Streaming CPU needed

[JamesElopre]

Amd Ryzen or Intel

[PlayStation 2]

What would you be using your PC for?

[JamesElopre]

gaming,streaming

[D13H4RD]

Streaming? Probs a Ryzen 7. The extra cores can be useful 

[JamesElopre]

thank you

[avg123]

3 minutes ago, JamesElopre said:

thank you

When are you planning to buy it? Whats your budget? Intel is releasing a 8 core i7 later this year.

[JamesElopre]

how much

[D13H4RD]

3 minutes ago, avg123 said:

Intel is releasing a 8 core i7 later this year.

It remains to be seen how much it will cost and how much it has improved over the 8700K.

 

If he needs a CPU now, the Ryzen 7 is probably his best bet if he needs to stream. If he can wait, then that upcoming CPU can be worth a look depending on price and performance and especially heat

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

6 minutes ago, JamesElopre said:

how much

Most likely around the same price range of the current i7 lineup. 

[avg123]

2 minutes ago, JamesElopre said:

how much

The price of that i7 has not been revealed yet. Intel CPUs are usually better for gaming. If gaming is main concern, clock speed is more important than core count. A i7 8700k is more than enough for gaming.

 

Game streaming is more important to you, you may want more cores.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, JamesElopre said:

how much

 

1 minute ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

 

If they drop the price of the 8700K $399-449, if not their 8 core will likely be $499-549

Either way just grab a cheap R7 first gen chip for like $200 right now, or R7 2700 if you have a higher budget.

[JamesElopre]

okay okay il wait

[PlayStation 2]

First generation Ryzen 7s are going for fucking cheap. If you can grab a 1700 (or a 1700X or 1800X) and a decent board, it'll definitely be the better budget choice.

If you're willing to be patient, then the 8 core 8700K would be a more interesting option.

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, JamesElopre said:

okay okay il wait

What's your budget/country for the PC? and what's your monitor resolution/refresh rate? There's no reason to wait for the intel 8 core given the current cost of Ryzen.

[JamesElopre]

whats the best cpu cooler

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, JamesElopre said:

whats the best cpu cooler

Ln2

[airdeano]

@JamesElopre instead of compiling multiple threads on 'what's best', prolly for your benefit, make a single thread in the new builds and planning forum and get it all made for your custom budget.  so far all the best is not doing you any good as no one knows what money is budgeted for the build.. makes it a lot less confusing to you and our community.

[DarkSmith2]

AMD processor prices are in free fall. No matter what happens you can just wait a month and get it even cheaper, they always get sold below MSRP. Otherwise they weren't able to compete.

[Mattias Edeslatt]

<irony> Don't forget you also need a good streaming motherboard and streaming RAM. But for streaming and gaming you should mix with gaming RAM and streaming motherboard. Don't forget to get a PSU that is capable of handling both gaming and production workloads. </irony>

 

This "what is best for ... " is nothing more than successful marketing from vendors that you need gaming this and gaming that. Gaming branding and RGB make everything much faster and more powerful 

 

Wile it's true that Intel has the upper edge in performance for both "gaming" and "streaming / video production", much thanks to a somewhat higher IPC and utilization of the iGPU that can be utilized to boost some workloads than the counterpart from AMD and that many program makers doesn't taken full advantage of the APU instructions to offload certain workloads, it's come with a massive premium in form of $$$. If the for the normal user and gamer this slight advantage and in real world applications low % of MOAR FPS is worth several $100 by all means, jump on the bandwagon of marketing hype.

 

Only way to really see the difference is with synthetic workloads and to have FPS counters enabled so you can see that you have 5-10 FPS lower in a game with AMD, but does it matter when you in both systems have 150+ FPS. And in rendering it is a matter of seconds slower. It's no match to make a staple diagram that shows the 2-5 seconds upper hand of the Intel to look massive, it's all in the perception of the way you present the output of the data.

 

Both systems will be great at what you want to do, one is just cheaper than the other.