Ryzen 2700x vs 1900x

[pallen98]

I was looking to upgrade the cpu to an amd 8 core in my gaming/streaming/editing rig. I was wondering what your guys opinion on whether I should option a: go with the 2700x, option b: go with the threadripper 1900x, or option c: wait for the 2nd gen threadripper to come out. I have heard rumors, but do no know when and what core count the lower level threadripper will be released at. Also on the subject of TR4 motherboard I know specific manufacterers have had defects with the socket and was wondering what knowledge you guys have on the TR4 socket if i decide to go this route? Any help is much appreciated!

[Herman Mcpootis]

the 1900x is pretty much an 1800x with 64 pci-e lanes and a higher cost, so stick with ryzen 7 instead.

[Firewrath9]

i would get the 2700x, unless you need the 64 pcie slots., Their performance are similar, however ryzen 7 is cheaper but if you want TR, get at least the 12core or 16 versions.

[NelizMastr]

It all depends on what you want. If your workload is fine with 8 cores and doesn't need 64 PCIe lanes for a fuckton of add-in cards, the AM4 platform is just fine. TR4 boards are easily $300+ where decent X470 AM4 boards start around half that at $140-ish. 

 

I haven't personally heard about actual socket problems with TR4 aside from the nuisance with the tightening screws and threads on the socket that isn't more than that, a nuisance.

[Firewrath9]

the only benefit is that TR4 mobos should be compatible with the new TRs (2990x etc)

[NelizMastr]

3 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

the only benefit is that TR4 mobos should be compatible with the new TRs (2990x etc)

But Zen2/Ryzen 3 is also compatible with AM4, so there's no real benefit there.

[pallen98]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

It all depends on what you want. If your workload is fine with 8 cores and doesn't need 64 PCIe lanes for a fuckton of add-in cards, the AM4 platform is just fine. TR4 boards are easily $300+ where decent X470 AM4 boards start around half that at $140-ish. 

 

I haven't personally heard about actual socket problems with TR4 aside from the nuisance with the tightening screws and threads on the socket that isn't more than that, a nuisance.

I was watching a video where jayztwocents was doing a threadripper build and he was saying something about how there are pretty much two manufacturers of the actual socket and one was trustworthy while the other was pretty problem ridden so i figured I'd just throw that out there.

[Firewrath9]

2 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

But Zen2/Ryzen 3 is also compatible with AM4, so there's no real benefit there.

if he wants 32c/64t in the future, he can but i doubt they will make ryzen more than 8c, as ryzen is not a workstation.

[AngryBeaver]

I would go with the 2700x. It is using the smaller manufacturing process which gives it a clock speed boost. Who cares about having more cores if your ST performance for games is going to be crap. Since these chips do not have much if any(in some cases) OC headroom those extra clocks go a long way in getting average fps up in most titles.

[NelizMastr]

12 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

if he wants 32c/64t in the future, he can but i doubt they will make ryzen more than 8c, as ryzen is not a workstation.

If you need 24 more cores than right now within 2-3 years, TR isn't the way to go now anyway, as a new socket will be available then with new features. It's better to stay on a "consumer" platform if that's the case. You'll have a significantly lower total cost over those years.

[Jon Jon]

The 2700X is plenty.

 

As I do what you mentioned above with my build below, you will be fine.

 

I stream with no issues running Oculus with no lag in OBS, and I don't lag streaming with OBS for "flat" gaming either.

 

What you will run into an issue with is if you are recording, streaming, and playing at the same time, where more cores and faster storage will help you, but you can tweak your settings to mitigate this.

 

Even then, if you are getting a 1900X, save your money. The money you save on an X399 motherboard you can dump into a really good NVME PCI-E 4x Drive (I highly recommend the Samsung 970 EVO/PRO from experience), and still have enough PCI-E Lanes for your graphics cards and peripherals.

[pallen98]

I was looking to upgrade soon and saw the threadripper 1900x was only $300 on newegg Fantastech sale