Is it worth?

[JohnCarlHenry]

So I'm planning to build a system and I want to know if there's something I can improve. It can be more cost as long as it matches or exceeds the additional performance.https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JohnCarlHenry/saved/WqDbjX

[Princess Luna]

And how do you plan on displaying video with it?

[Spotty]

I've already mentioned this over in your other thread in more detail, but I really need to stress that the Ryzen 3 1200 DOES NOT SUPPORT GRAPHICS. You cannot use it without a separate graphics card. You need the 2200G.

 

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The Ryzen 1200 does NOT have graphics output. You can't use it without a dedicated graphics card, which will cost a lot more money. You need the 2200G. There's only $1 difference in price between the two.

With the memory, it's the frequency that is important with the 2200G, so don't get 2133MHz memory. There's only $5 difference between the one you selected and the 3000MHz memory. The reason is dedicated graphics cards have memory built in to the card they use that is very fast, however when you're using the CPU/APU for the display it relies on the systems RAM in the motherboard. The faster RAM you have, the better performance you will have. I strongly recommend getting RAM with higher frequency. I understand you are building on a budget, but trust me that it's worth the extra few dollars.

The Thermaltake "Smart" series isn't considered to be very good and it may not be as reliable as other PSUs. I would recommend you keep shopping to see if you can find something better. Remember to check the PSU Tier list I linked to earlier to see how PSUs rate.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/943516-comparison/?do=findComment&comment=11496297

[AskTJ]

No graphics card? The Ryzen 3 1200 doesn't have a display output so you need a graphics card. Also for the ram, you would want it to be faster, like 2666MHz. It really does make a difference. 

 

I suggest you buy a 2200G. You get decent 1080P performance.

[JohnCarlHenry]

4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I've already mentioned this over in your other thread in more detail, but I really need to stress that the Ryzen 3 1200 DOES NOT SUPPORT GRAPHICS. You cannot use it without a separate graphics card. You need the 2200G.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/943516-comparison/?do=findComment&comment=11496297

 

3 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

No graphics card? The Ryzen 3 1200 doesn't have a display output so you need a graphics card. Also for the ram, you would want it to be faster, like 2666MHz. It really does make a difference. 

 

I suggest you buy a 2200G. You get decent 1080P performance.

might be a bit of a newbie question but is this considered a gpu?(It's built into the board I think) 

[seon123]

4 minutes ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

might be a bit of a newbie question but is this considered a gpu?(It's built into the board I think) 

No. That's just the possible outputs if the CPU has an iGPU.

[Spotty]

Just now, JohnCarlHenry said:

might be a bit of a newbie question but is this considered a gpu?(It's built into the board I think) 

It's not built in to the motherboard, it needs to be built in to the CPU.
The motherboard only supports video output when used with either a 2200G or a 2400G APU which both have graphics built in to them. It does not work with a Ryzen 3 1200 which does not have graphics built in to it.
 

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"Integrated AMD Radeon R-Series Graphics in A-Series APU*"

 

All that is built in to the board is the video output connectors that allow you to plug in the cable to attach to the monitor, as these are needed when you're using the 2200G or 2400G. Without either the 2200G or 2400G which have the GPU built in to the CPU, these connectors do not work.

It just means that it has the display connectors at the back that makes the motherboard compatible for outputting display from the CPU if the CPU has integrated graphics.

[JohnCarlHenry]

2 minutes ago, seon123 said:

No. That's just the possible outputs if the CPU has an iGPU.

 

12 minutes ago, AskTJ said:

No graphics card? The Ryzen 3 1200 doesn't have a display output so you need a graphics card. Also for the ram, you would want it to be faster, like 2666MHz. It really does make a difference. 

 

I suggest you buy a 2200G. You get decent 1080P performance.

 

12 minutes ago, Spotty said:

I've already mentioned this over in your other thread in more detail, but I really need to stress that the Ryzen 3 1200 DOES NOT SUPPORT GRAPHICS. You cannot use it without a separate graphics card. You need the 2200G.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/943516-comparison/?do=findComment&comment=11496297

A bit of an update. When I switch the cpu to AMD Ryzen 2200G I get a incompatibility warning. Is it the mother board? 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

A bit of an update. When I switch the cpu to AMD Ryzen 2200G I get a incompatibility warning. Is it the mother board? 

That is because the B350 is an old chipset that came before the 2200G however if you're buying brand new it'll be compatible just fine.

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, JohnCarlHenry said:

A bit of an update. When I switch the cpu to AMD Ryzen 2200G I get a incompatibility warning. Is it the mother board? 

You will get that warning message whenever you have a 2200G or 2400G processor selected.

The reason is the 2200G/2400G were released after the rest of the Ryzen CPUs, and not all older AM4 socket motherboards support it without a BIOS update. Basically the older boards can't identify what the newer CPU is because when the motherboards were made the newer processors didn't exist yet. The older boards are able to run the newer processors, but only after they have been updated to be able to identify the newer processors.

AFAIK the Asrock AB350M Pro4 is good to use out of the box since it is a newer motherboard and was built specifically for the 2200G/2400G processors.

[Herman Mcpootis]

33 minutes ago, Spotty said:

AFAIK the Asrock AB350M Pro4 is good to use out of the box since it is a newer motherboard and was built specifically for the 2200G/2400G processors.

the pro4 boards were out long before raven ridge.

[Spotty]

3 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the pro4 boards were out long before raven ridge.

Ah you're right.
The Newegg listing for the board does state that the board is Ryzen 2000 ready, however, so it should be good to go straight out of the box without a BIOS update.