GPU upgrade?

[VampishAxis49]

Hello, im looking into upgrading my pc. I currently have a very basic pc. Pentium g4560 MSI gaming X 1050ti, 8gb 2400 DDR4 ram. I want to step up my build a little. I have a friend upgrading his build and he is buying my 1050ti. I am going to get a i5-7500, 16gb of ram (+ same 2x4gb set) and I want a 1060 but I don't know if work spending the extra money on the 6gb or if I should get the 3gb. What would you guys recommend I get? 

 

[Merlin Sa]

The 6GB are better for now and in the future.

 

[VampishAxis49]

Just now, Merlin Sa said:

The 6GB are better for now and in the future.

 

So the 6gb will be better then the 1050ti and last long? also would I have to upgrade any time soon?

 

[LienusLateTips]

5 minutes ago, VampishAxis49 said:

So the 6gb will be better then the 1050ti and last long? also would I have to upgrade any time soon?

 

6GB should last you around 2-3 years.

 

Honestly I would recommend https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PTfmP6/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-8gb-red-devil-video-card-axrx-580-8gbd5-3dhoc if you are in the US as it is the cheapest non mini 1060/580.

[Merlin Sa]

Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti vs GTX 1060-6GB
Userbenchmark Effective 3D Gaming GPU Speed: 38.9% vs 70.8% 

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/3649vs3639

 

even between the 3GB and 6Gb are performance differences

Nvidia GTX 1060-3GB vs GTX 1060-6GB
Userbenchmark Effective 3D Gaming GPU Speed: 65.9% vs 70.8% 
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/3646vs3639

[Merlin Sa]

8 minutes ago, JDE said:

6GB should last you around 2-3 years.

 

Honestly I would recommend https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PTfmP6/powercolor-radeon-rx-580-8gb-red-devil-video-card-axrx-580-8gbd5-3dhoc if you are in the US as it is the cheapest non mini 1060/580.

I have a RX 480 from MSI and can recommend it.
And RX580 is almost the same, so that would be an option for you.

The RX 580 is also almost as fast as a 1060 6gb.

 

AMD RX 580 vs Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB
Userbenchmark Effective 3D Gaming GPU Speed: 69% vs 70.8% 

 

Edited June 28, 2018 by Merlin Sa

[CapitalistVN]

Yeah the 1060 6GB is one of the best performer in its price range, recommended for sure

[LienusLateTips]

22 minutes ago, Merlin Sa said:

AMD RX 580 vs Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB
Userbenchmark Effective 3D Gaming GPU Speed: 69% vs 70.8% 

 

Userbenchmark isn't really accurate, as the 1060 overclocks better. It's a 1 FPS difference in most games, and in many games the RX 580 performs better.

[Merlin Sa]

5 minutes ago, JDE said:

Userbenchmark isn't really accurate, as the 1060 overclocks better. It's a 1 FPS difference in most games, and in many games the RX 580 performs better.

of course, but it helps to make a decision: D

[VampishAxis49]

so you guys recommend a 6gb 1060 or a rx 580 right? 

[Merlin Sa]

1 minute ago, VampishAxis49 said:

so you guys recommend a 6gb 1060 or a rx 580 right? 

Yes

[VampishAxis49]

1 minute ago, Merlin Sa said:

Yes

okay so you guys are talking about the 8 gb RX580? and what would last me longer and be the best for the i5? Also are there going to be new cards around $300 soon or only higher end cards? 

[Merlin Sa]

10 minutes ago, VampishAxis49 said:

 Also are there going to be new cards around $300 soon or only higher end cards? 

Good question..

10 minutes ago, VampishAxis49 said:

what would last me longer

hard to say, but the RX has more VRAM that's better for the future.

Edited June 28, 2018 by Merlin Sa

[VampishAxis49]

1 minute ago, Merlin Sa said:

Good question..

hard to say, but the RX has more VRAM that's better for the future.

Im looking at Asus ROG strix 1060 and rx 580. Ive seen that certain cards are faster in certain games, and ive seen people say that the performance are so close that its just personal preference is that right?

[Merlin Sa]

26 minutes ago, VampishAxis49 said:

ive seen people say that the performance are so close that its just personal preference is that right?

Yes 

[GoldenLag]

25 minutes ago, VampishAxis49 said:

Im looking at Asus ROG strix 1060 and rx 580. Ive seen that certain cards are faster in certain games, and ive seen people say that the performance are so close that its just personal preference is that right?

More or less. Rx 580 also grants acces to freesync which is present on many lower end monitors. Nice for removing tearing. 

 

If you have budget constraints the rx 580 4gb is avavible, though it is not as futureproof as the 8gb due to less Vram. Other than that they are identical, unlike the 3gb and 6gb 1060 which the 3gb is 10% slower

[TheReal_ist]

28 minutes ago, VampishAxis49 said:

Im looking at Asus ROG strix 1060 and rx 580. Ive seen that certain cards are faster in certain games, and ive seen people say that the performance are so close that its just personal preference is that right?

If having 2 more gb of vram isn't good enough reason to buy said RX 580 the next thing to do is look for a card with a higher stable OC. For instance a tri fan card perhaps. Because the 1060 and 580 are the same in our reference that is. 

[TheReal_ist]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

More or less. Rx 580 also grants acces to freesync which is present on many lower end monitors. Nice for removing tearing. 

 

If you have budget constraints the rx 580 4gb is avavible, though it is not as futureproof as the 8gb due to less Vram. Other than that they are identical, unlike the 3gb and 6gb 1060 which the 3gb is 10% slower

I forgot about freesync, great point!! 

 

I don't use it much but I always have the option and it didn't cost me another 100 for a monitor with it. So another reason why AMD cards at this price range are better. Good catch

[GoldenLag]

10 hours ago, TheReal1st said:

*snip*

I can give you a reason. 

 

1. He doesnt have to buy into a new platform and is therefore cheaper.

 

2. A lot of people dont OC so it doesnt matter. He most likely have a budget board and cant OC regardless.

 

3. He probably has a deal on that 7500.

 

4. Dont be mean to people over their choices.

Edited June 28, 2018 by wkdpaul

[Quadriplegic]

I second the question on 7500 - just why? 

Back on topic - at the same price, RX 580 8GB is better deal than 1060 6GB, like other people have said. However, if you are willing to take the risk, you can try to find an used 980 Ti, as it will perform better than both of these. Of course, there is a lot of risk involved.

[GoldenLag]

@VampishAxis49 how much are you paying for that i5 7500. If you dont have a deal om it i would reconsider and see if you can find a CPU second hand that fits the same mobo. Either that or buying into 8th gen coffee lake or 1/2nd gen Ryzen

[GoldenLag]

16 minutes ago, TheReal1st said:

Those aren't reasons for anything, u get your trying to justify buying an old CPU for the price of a new gen chip. Thats the definition of backwards mate

If he can get the 7500 at good deal or second hand it makes sence

18 minutes ago, TheReal1st said:

Point is he's buying an old chip to save what 80 bucks on a new mobo for Ryzen which will last him 3 years from now.

80 bucks is quite a bit when you are on a budget. 4 cores on the 7500 will last him 3 years just fine. Newer games are rarely CPU bottlenecked anyway and only the newest gameengines scale up to 6 cores (with some exceptions like Civ 5 lore engine)

24 minutes ago, TheReal1st said:

2017 chip which by AMD standards is basically 2 years old

By AMD standards it is 1 year 2 months old. Ryzen didnt exist before then. And at that point 4 cores was still relevant.

 

Look, buying an older chips makes sence on a budget. If he cant get a deal on the CPU he should probably buy into Ryzen or coffeelake depending on his budget. 

[GOD MAN]

Get a GTX 1060 6GB 

unless you have  a freesync monitor  then get a rx 580