Thinking to switch to console

[Gunn]

Im thinking to switch console becose the prices off the pc components are pretty expensive and more here in spain like last year the gtx 1050 ti 4gb was like 140 euros but today it retails at 210 or more and the new gtx 1180 is rummored to retail for 900 dolar for the base one dosent help at all, and the ram is still preatty expensive like 8 gb for 87 euros the only thing that the prices went down is the ssd and bought one of 240 gb for 53 euros. 

[Gunn]

My actual Pc:

Gigabyte z97 hd3 rev2.1

I5-4670K(Running at stock clock)

Asus Gtx 750 ti 

7 gb Ram

And somo hard drive and the ssd 

[Christophe Corazza]

The topic of your thread states: 'Thinking to switch to console'

So... what is your question?

[Gunn]

I dont know what to do

To wait till the prices on gpu and ram come down i been waiting from december 

Or sell the computer and buy Xbox one s that reatails at 230 € with the asassins creed origins

[Natsoup]

So is this like a "Change my mind" episode, or what? Honestly, best place to play games is on PS4 if you don't want the flexibility of PC. 

[Gunn]

Just now, Natsoup said:

So is this like a "Change my mind" episode, or what? Honestly, best place to play games is on PS4 if you don't want the flexibility of PC. 

i want flexibility of pc but i cant afford anything with this prices

[Christophe Corazza]

4 minutes ago, Gunn said:

i want flexibility of pc but i cant afford anything with this prices

 

Perhaps you can look for used hardware?

[dizmo]

• Prices are going to go up, that's just a fact of life. Nothing stays the price it was 2, 5 or 10 years ago. That's just the way the world works.
• You're worried about the new price of high end components? Why? If you can't afford them, go lower in the product stack.
• As technology advances, and performance improves, you don't need to get as-good-of a card. You can get away with something lower. Like, for example, an 1150Ti, which will likely be more than capable of playing 1080p games. Still can't afford it? Get another job. Make money on the side.
• Consider used hardware, as @Christophe Corazza suggested. I buy almost exclusively used hardware, because I find the hunt for bargains more entertaining. I built my entire set up this time around for $350 Canadian.

If, however, you want to get a console, they're a great choice for those on more of a budget, and you don't have to worry about having certain hardware to have a good experience, as no matter what game you pick up, it's going to perform. I'm selling mine, but only because I can get more for it now than later, and I'll be getting an Xbox One X when I move back to the coast.

11 minutes ago, Natsoup said:

So is this like a "Change my mind" episode, or what? Honestly, best place to play games is on PS4 if you don't want the flexibility of PC. 

Welcome to a forum, where people come to discuss things!

 

 

[Gunn]

1 minute ago, Christophe Corazza said:

 

Perhaps you can look for used hardware?

Actually the only thing i can buy used is ram becose if want to buy a gtx 1050 ti the price for the gpu it like 175 € and the shippement is like 15 to 25 becose for some reason people think its a good idea to sell a used gpu for 10 to 20 percent off the original price

[Gunn]

Just now, dizmo said:

• Prices are going to go up, that's just a fact of life. Nothing stays the price it was 2, 5 or 10 years ago. That's just the way the world works.
• You're worried about the new price of high end components? Why? If you can't afford them, go lower in the product stack.
• As technology advances, and performance improves, you don't need to get as-good-of a card. You can get away with something lower. Like, for example, an 1150Ti, which will likely be more than capable of playing 1080p games. Still can't afford it? Get another job. Make money on the side.
• Consider used hardware, as @Christophe Corazza suggested. I buy almost exclusively used hardware, because I find the hunt for bargains more entertaining. I built my entire set up this time around for $350 Canadian.

If, however, you want to get a console, they're a great choice for those on more of a budget, and you don't have to worry about having certain hardware to have a good experience, as no matter what game you pick up, it's going to perform. I'm selling mine, but only because I can get more for it now than later, and I'll be getting an Xbox One X when I move back to the coast.

Welcome to a forum, where people come to discuss things!

 

 

Thats why i want a gtx 1050 ti becose it cheapper and it better price/perfomance ratio at least it was

[JZStudios]

21 minutes ago, dizmo said:

• Prices are going to go up, that's just a fact of life. Nothing stays the price it was 2, 5 or 10 years ago. That's just the way the world works.
• You're worried about the new price of high end components? Why? If you can't afford them, go lower in the product stack.
• As technology advances, and performance improves, you don't need to get as-good-of a card. You can get away with something lower. Like, for example, an 1150Ti, which will likely be more than capable of playing 1080p games. Still can't afford it? Get another job. Make money on the side.
• Consider used hardware, as @Christophe Corazza suggested. I buy almost exclusively used hardware, because I find the hunt for bargains more entertaining. I built my entire set up this time around for $350 Canadian.

If, however, you want to get a console, they're a great choice for those on more of a budget, and you don't have to worry about having certain hardware to have a good experience, as no matter what game you pick up, it's going to perform. I'm selling mine, but only because I can get more for it now than later, and I'll be getting an Xbox One X when I move back to the coast.

Welcome to a forum, where people come to discuss things!

 

 

1. Electronics have NEVER held their price, unless they get rare and have a sudden random revival like Nixie Tubes, but no one's going to pay $1300 for a win2000 machine. 1.5 Electronics over time have gotten more powerful and cheaper to produce
2. Vaguely true, but he also mentioned ram prices, which have skyrocketed across the board. the is no "cheaper" option to avoid the investigated price fixing, and now anything newer is using DDR4, so buying anything older is really just a waste of investment.
3. Not entirely true. a lot of PC games are horribly unoptimized, and a lot of newer titles require significantly more power than before even at 1080.
4. That is always an option, but I'm weird and would just prefer to buy my things new. I've also not seen much of a discount on the previous gen cards since the new ones came out and outdated them.

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, Gunn said:

Im thinking to switch console becose the prices off the pc components are pretty expensive and more here in spain like last year the gtx 1050 ti 4gb was like 140 euros but today it retails at 210 or more and the new gtx 1180 is rummored to retail for 900 dolar for the base one dosent help at all, and the ram is still preatty expensive like 8 gb for 87 euros the only thing that the prices went down is the ssd and bought one of 240 gb for 53 euros. 

Sure. Currently, it is not the best time to purchase a new computer. Things will eventually adjust, but time is needed. Many people have BOTH a PC and a gaming console, both for gaming! For example, I got a Switch. I enjoy Nintendo games very much, I think they are fantastic games, I can play some games that I could play on my PC, but get to play anywhere at home, bed, sofa, or if I travel. Having a job where I sit most days, it is nice to lay down and play. That is just me. But you have 2x great consoles if you prefer visual fidelity and performance. You have the XBox One which is getting more and more interesting over the years since the company is taking a new direction from its initial release, and the very popular Sony PlayStation 4, which both of them having a more powerful version, if you can afford it. Just keep in mind that cross play is not an option on the Sony console. And linking your accounts that you have on your PC or Switch on XBox with theirs system, CAN lock it out from the other systems. No warning is given. So if you do get a PS4, and you plan to have a game on your PC and console, or another gaming console, make sure you use 2 different accounts.

 

That said, the XBox One and PS4 where released around late 2013, so they are nearing 5 years, and so newer console might be coming up in 1-2 years time. Those might be more powerful systems of the Pro/X models, or a newer system which might lock or not support of the older console. We don't know, I don't have a time machine. If you are concerned for this, or want to minimize expense, look into refurbished systems.

 

If you are interested in minimizing the cost of a console, you can look into: Refurbished system! Those are less expensive and can be found officially on the company official store, or hidden away in some section (Google search) and might be able to save a lot, but they tend to sell quickly. You can also look into the used market.

[dizmo]

5 minutes ago, JZStudios said:

1. Electronics have NEVER held their price, unless they get rare and have a sudden random revival like Nixie Tubes, but no one's going to pay $1300 for a win2000 machine. 1.5 Electronics over time have gotten more powerful and cheaper to produce
2. Vaguely true, but he also mentioned ram prices, which have skyrocketed across the board. the is no "cheaper" option to avoid the investigated price fixing, and now anything newer is using DDR4, so buying anything older is really just a waste of investment.
3. Not entirely true. a lot of PC games are horribly unoptimized, and a lot of newer titles require significantly more power than before even at 1080.
4. That is always an option, but I'm weird and would just prefer to buy my things new. I've also not seen much of a discount on the previous gen cards since the new ones came out and outdated them.

• What, you're thinking in terms of a specific item later on? Or overall? Because overall prices are most definitely climbing, and that happens with inflation over time. When something goes into obsolescence, obviously it loses it's value.
• So you pay a little more for RAM. If you see anything non-business related in terms of building a PC as an investment, you'll always be disappointed.
• And a lot more aren't. Moot point.
• All depends how hard you're willing to look, and how much work you're willing to put in. As I said, I got my entire set up for $350. Which includes a $300 pair of studio monitors.

 

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, Gunn said:

Actually the only thing i can buy used is ram becose if want to buy a gtx 1050 ti the price for the gpu it like 175 € and the shippement is like 15 to 25 becose for some reason people think its a good idea to sell a used gpu for 10 to 20 percent off the original price

To be fair, if the market will bear a higher selling price, as a seller, it's a smart move. I had absolutely no problem selling one of my GTX 980's for $400 when just a few months earlier they were going for $200.

1 hour ago, Gunn said:

Thats why i want a gtx 1050 ti becose it cheapper and it better price/perfomance ratio at least it was

There's no point in being salty about the current market. Just wait it out, or find another way to build a PC.

[JZStudios]

8 minutes ago, dizmo said:

• What, you're thinking in terms of a specific item later on? Or overall? Because overall prices are most definitely climbing, and that happens with inflation over time. When something goes into obsolescence, obviously it loses it's value.
• So you pay a little more for RAM. If you see anything non-business related in terms of building a PC as an investment, you'll always be disappointed.
• And a lot more aren't. Moot point.
• All depends how hard you're willing to look, and how much work you're willing to put in. As I said, I got my entire set up for $350. Which includes a $300 pair of studio monitors.

 

1. In terms of everything. For new products, yes there's inflation, but even overall that balances out. When RAM last year is $8 for a product, and there's inflation of say... $0.03 but this year it costs $15, there's something wrong. The MSRP for a 1080 was $600 and they were selling for nearly $1000. Any used product, or hell, even new that's been outdated usually goes on sale, but that hasn't happened with the 900 or 1000 series cards.
2. I REALLY meant that any future upgrade would essentially require ANOTHER complete system overhaul, since you'd need a new mobo, RAM, and CPU, so upgrading to something outdated right now doesn't make much sense either. It's an immediate loss of investment, rather than a decay over time. It'd be like buying a new Ferrari and driving it off the lot, and there's a new one released next week you could've gotten, and you just lost $20,000.
3. Any modern AAA game is, which by the statistics are usually quite popular and commonly played. Not a moot point. This is the age of "Push the graphics to plaid speed!" and a lot of cards can't handle it.
4. That's great. I'm not driving to the next town 200 miles away to save a buck. I can't tell you how irritating it is when people give that as an excuse. "Well I got a great deal, you just don't because you suck or are lazy. You're not looking HARD enough. Gotta be SOO HARD." 

[pinksnowmanshandle]

1...2...3.... I declare a flamewar...

Seriously though, your card is like what? a GT 1030/RX 460 in performance?
What games do you play, and if you like playing games with friends and what not. What platforms are they mostly on?

In games, actually dare I say it depending on the game. Your i5 might edge out my Ryzen 7 1700.

Again depends a lot on the game.

But Intel is still the king of single threaded performance, AMD if memory serves, their single thread performance isnt quite up to snuff with Intel's latest greatest but that's not saying much considering how slow Intel has been since Haswell.

[aezakmi]

going from 60 FPS to 24? eww, no thanks

 

stick to your 750Ti, overclock your CPU a bit, download afterburner, you have a Z97...

[TetraSky]

2 hours ago, Gunn said:

i been waiting from december 

I've been waiting for years for something worthwhile to be released, learn to be patient. Your PC is still perfectly fine to play games, except maybe the GPU and RAM for newer titles.
If you don't want to pay ridiculous amount for a single part, just get a mid range GPU like a 1060 instead of a balls to the wall ultra high end GPU. Nearly anything will beat that 750 and beat the current consoles.

Not to mention, consoles games are not cheap, if you get a new console, you will need new games because your current PC games won't work on it (duh), as such, it might be a more expensive investment to get into consoles than it would be to just upgrade your GPU and RAM.

[386DX (Cam)]

2 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

You do realize older architectures can still compete, and cost less than newer ones?  Why not aim for a Haswell i7, a z97 mobo if it is unlocked, ddr3, maybe a decent budget psu like the corsair cx, maybe a deepcool case, an h7 or save for a d15 or dark rock, maybe get like a gtx 780 for around the same price, or less, of a 1050ti?

that's a great idea! haswell is still more than enough for most things ddr3 is cheaper 

maybe buy a mobo that supports ecc ddr3 since thats generally cheaper from what i've seen then get a haswell xeon and use the spare money on a 780ti or something like that 

 

what do you think?

[386DX (Cam)]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Well, I think they already have a z97 mobo and a devil's canyon chip, but they could up it to a 4790k if needed.  And, a 780 or 780ti would work.

oh sorry i  didn't read the specs right, my bad haha! and yeah used stuff always seems to be of incredible value 

[Gunn]

7 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

You do realize older architectures can still compete, and cost less than newer ones?  Why not aim for a Haswell i7, a z97 mobo if it is unlocked, ddr3, maybe a decent budget psu like the corsair cx[grey not green], maybe a deepcool case, an h7 or save for a d15 or dark rock, maybe get like a gtx 780 for around the same price, or less, of a 1050ti?

Actually i was lokking in cex for i7 4th generation for 200 € It preatty good i think 

[Gunn]

6 minutes ago, aezakmi said:

going from 60 FPS to 24? eww, no thanks

 

stick to your 750Ti, overclock your CPU a bit, download afterburner, you have a Z97...

Yeah but the problem with this gpu if try to overclock a little it crashes on you https://www.asus.com/es/Graphics-Cards/GTX750TI2GD5/

and this card comes with gpu boost and you can only get if remember right like 52 mhz on core and 127 on mem bus and if you try to push it higer it shit himself

[386DX (Cam)]

 

3 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I thought it was a devil's canyon, but they have the 7, not the 9  version of that i5.  I also didn't read it at first either, so it's okay.

Unless it's the 4790k you'd be downgrading or side grading in terms of gaming performance from the i5 you have.   But, the i7s would win in terms of editing and other workloads.

the extra threads of the i7 will be helpful very soon too with everything moving to more cores i would do the i7 4770k or 4790k personally cause 4770k wouldn't be better right now but in 2019 i can bet it will 

[Gunn]

4 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

I thought it was a devil's canyon, but they have the 7, not the 9  version of that i5.  I also didn't read it at first either, so it's okay.

Unless it's the 4790k you'd be downgrading or side grading in terms of gaming performance from the i5 you have.   But, the i7s would win in terms of editing and other workloads.

https://es.webuy.com/product-detail?id=scpuinti74790k&categoryName=intel-procesadores&superCatName=inform%C3%A1tica&title=intel-core-i7-4790k-(4.0ghz)-lga1150 yeah its the i7-4790k and its compatible with my board https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z97-HD3-rev-21#support-cpu

[Guest]

There are plenty of games that you can play on your 750 TI. Prices are slowly coming down & eBay is a good place to go. Make sure the parts you pick are from 100% rating sellers. I’m sticking with my R9 390 till at least 2025. Maybe 2030 if I don’t go for a more power efficient card. 

 

Edit: 

your cpu is better than mine & I can run games fine. Waiting for a good deal on a gpu is what would best suit you. Check out the hot deals often & you might catch something you like.