Threadripper Build

[Zubinix]

Hi all

 

My first post!

 

I am building a new AMD Threadripper based system for software development work. I need all the cores so I can locally host my Continuous Integration system which is very heavy in web browser usage (100+ web browsers in parallel) all time while I am actively using the system for development (i.e. Visual Studio editing, builds etc..). My budget is $5000 Australian Dollars and my current spec below comes to $4670 AUD.

 

• Corsair HX-750i ATX Power Supply, 80 PLUS Platinum Certified
• Pioneer BDR-209DBK 15X Blu-Ray internal Drive SATA OEM
• Asus X399 ROG Zenith Extreme TR4 eATX Motherboard
• Corsair Carbide 540W High Airflow White ATX Cube USB3.0 Case No PSU
• Samsung 970 Pro Series 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD   (x2)
• Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64bit OEM DVD
• Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 IXOC Gaming 6GB Video Card
• Seagate IronWolf NAS 4TB ST4000VN008 HD 3.5 SATAII 64MB
• G.Skill 32GB (4x 8GB) F4-3000C15Q-32GTZR DDR4 3000Mhz Trident Z RGB
• EVGA CLC 280 Liquid CPU Cooler
• AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920X 12-Core Socket TR4 3.5GHz Unlocked CPU Processor

 

I'm wondering what do people think of this build spec? Will I be able to slot one of the new Threadripper CPUs later on (e.g. 32 core)? Is there a smaller cube case available in Australia suitable for the big eATX motherboard?

 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Zubinix said:

smaller cube  big eATX motherboard

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Anyways, how's your RX 580 pricing? Do you need to do any gaming? As a free-sync display could save some cash.

 

4 minutes ago, Zubinix said:

EVGA CLC 280 Liquid CPU Cooler

You 100% need to buy one of the enermax TR4 coolers

 

Go for a Core X9 if you can, probably the best case overall for that kind of system, tons of cooling options and such.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133275

[NelizMastr]

Just a heads-up, unless the system will be running 24/7, it's not a great idea to run a NAS drive. They're not designed for somewhat frequent start/stop cycles. You'd be better off getting a high quality general purpose disk, like a Barracuda Pro or WD Black/Gold.

[Zubinix]

28 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

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Anyways, how's your RX 580 pricing? Do you need to do any gaming? As a free-sync display could save some cash.

 

You 100% need to buy one of the enermax TR4 coolers

 

Go for a Core X9 if you can, probably the best case overall for that kind of system, tons of cooling options and such.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133275

I’m not really focussed on gaming. Is the RX 580 more powerful than a GTX 1060? The only game I really care for is the space sim Elite Dangerous. What is the advantage of a Core X9 over a Threadripper for this sort of work? What about future upgradability?

[Zubinix]

29 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

Just a heads-up, unless the system will be running 24/7, it's not a great idea to run a NAS drive. They're not designed for somewhat frequent start/stop cycles. You'd be better off getting a high quality general purpose disk, like a Barracuda Pro or WD Black/Gold.

This machine will be setup in the office where I work and I expect to leave it on 24/7.

[meenmeen1103]

27 minutes ago, Zubinix said:

I’m not really focussed on gaming. Is the RX 580 more powerful than a GTX 1060? The only game I really care for is the space sim Elite Dangerous. What is the advantage of a Core X9 over a Threadripper for this sort of work? What about future upgradability?

Core X9 as in the case, like linked in that same comment

 

If it's a system you expect to be under sustained moderate load, you may want to consider weighing cooling over size as HEDTs run pretty warm. A cooler designed for the socket in mind rather than adapted to fit, and a case with very healthy airflow would be very helpful.

[Zubinix]

9 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

Core X9 as in the case, like linked in that same comment

 

If it's a system you expect to be under sustained moderate load, you may want to consider weighing cooling over size as HEDTs run pretty warm. A cooler designed for the socket in mind rather than adapted to fit, and a case with very healthy airflow would be very helpful.

Oops I thought Core X9 was a processor. Lol. Noted your comments on cooling.

[wojtepanik]

sooo you buy threadripper and pair it with 1060? what is the sense of doing this ?

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, wojtepanik said:

sooo you buy threadripper and pair it with 1060? what is the sense of doing this ?

He isnt using it for gaming. Thats kinda why.

 

OP. I think you can fit a 16 core in there now, but you can wait for threadripper 2 and use the 12 core now temporarly. Also since its runing 24/7 there is nlt need for RGB ram. Just get a regular 32GB 4*8GB kit. I had build done in pcpartpicker, but that on my laptop. Give me a sec and ill boot my laptop up

[meenmeen1103]

7 minutes ago, wojtepanik said:

sooo you buy threadripper and pair it with 1060? what is the sense of doing this ?

People don't shouldn't buy a threadripper for gaming, as the cores basically perform the same as say a 2700X, so any task using 8 cores or less (majority of games) doesn't benefit from the threadripper performance. 

[GoldenLag]

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbMgnH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbMgnH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1325.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S TR4-SP3 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG ZENITH EXTREME EATX TR4 Motherboard  ($689.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($562.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($339.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($339.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($330.00 @ IJK) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card  ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: Silverstone - FT04B-W ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($227.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($184.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $4632.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-11 21:25 AEST+1000

 

this is what ive been able to come up with. allows for a 32 core update later on but still has a 16 core for now. 

[Zubinix]

19 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbMgnH
Price breakdown by merchant: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LbMgnH/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1325.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S TR4-SP3 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG ZENITH EXTREME EATX TR4 Motherboard  ($689.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($562.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($339.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Samsung - 960 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($339.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda Pro 6TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($330.00 @ IJK) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 4GB GTS XXX Edition Video Card  ($399.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: Silverstone - FT04B-W ATX Full Tower Case  ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($227.00 @ Skycomp Technology) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($184.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $4632.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-11 21:25 AEST+1000

 

this is what ive been able to come up with. allows for a 32 core update later on but still has a 16 core for now. 

Wow thanks GoldenLag. I guess I’m paying a few hundred dollar premium for getting it all in one place. 

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, Zubinix said:

Wow thanks GoldenLag. I guess I’m paying a few hundred dollar premium for getting it all in one place. 

indeed. i chose a platinum power supply to lower the power-bill a bit. 

 

Note: my build doesnt include an AIO but instead a good aircoolelr as it is better for running 24/7. it also doesnt include a CD drive. 

 

But you get extra storage. so thats a pluss.

 

[Taf the Ghost]

Depending on your time frame, there are more TR4 air coolers coming out soon, given Threadripper 2 is launching around August.

[Zubinix]

5 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Depending on your time frame, there are more TR4 air coolers coming out soon, given Threadripper 2 is launching around August.

I have to buy before end of financial year (June 30) so I can’t wait for Threadripper 2 hence the need to buy a system with future upgradability in mind. The ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard I hope will allow for future upgrade to a 32 core chip.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 minutes ago, Zubinix said:

I have to buy before end of financial year (June 30) so I can’t wait for Threadripper 2 hence the need to buy a system with future upgradability in mind. The ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard I hope will allow for future upgrade to a 32 core chip.

They'll accept it, as they aren't actually updating even the Chipset, just some of the design criteria for the boards, so just make sure you get a board with good VRMs and cooling on them. Be sure to toss in a couple of fans for good air flow.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Zubinix said:

I have to buy before end of financial year (June 30) so I can’t wait for Threadripper 2 hence the need to buy a system with future upgradability in mind. The ROG Zenith Extreme motherboard I hope will allow for future upgrade to a 32 core chip.

All TR4 boards will support the new chips, but its important youve got good VRMs to support the 32 core. So i went with the best mobo, especially since its running 24/7. 

 

The 1950x should have quite good resale value. This might change when 3000 series Ryzen comes out depending on how large the ccx's are. 

 

Rumours put the 3000 series Ryzen at max 12-16 cores and threadripper 3 48-64 cores. 

[Zubinix]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

All TR4 boards will support the new chips, but its important youve got good VRMs to support the 32 core. So i went with the best mobo, especially since its running 24/7. 

 

The 1950x should have quite good resale value. This might change when 3000 series Ryzen comes out depending on how large the ccx's are. 

 

Rumours put the 3000 series Ryzen at max 12-16 cores and threadripper 3 48-64 cores. 

Yep according to the YouTube videos I’ve seen, the chosen board has the best VRM setup.

[Taf the Ghost]

7 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

All TR4 boards will support the new chips, but its important youve got good VRMs to support the 32 core. So i went with the best mobo, especially since its running 24/7. 

 

The 1950x should have quite good resale value. This might change when 3000 series Ryzen comes out depending on how large the ccx's are. 

 

Rumours put the 3000 series Ryzen at max 12-16 cores and threadripper 3 48-64 cores. 

ServeTheHome, which is a server-dev company & good benchmarking site, said 12c for 2019, and likely 16c in 2020. Though I kind of suspect that TR3 won't get the full 48c next year. 

 

I also kind of think TR3 won't support the same socket. We'll know more when Epyc 2 launches. AMD has never said anything about X399 sticking around for a long time.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

ServeTheHome, which is a server-dev company & good benchmarking site, said 12c for 2019, and likely 16c in 2020. Though I kind of suspect that TR3 won't get the full 48c next year. 

 

I also kind of think TR3 won't support the same socket. We'll know more when Epyc 2 launches. AMD has never said anything about X399 sticking around for a long time.

I believe they are running the same cycle as AM4. But i think new boards will come next year, but they will still run on TR4. 

 

Brand new socket i think is 2021. With the release of PCIe 4.0 among other thing. Thats my theory at least. 

[Taf the Ghost]

9 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

I believe they are running the same cycle as AM4. But i think new boards will come next year, but they will still run on TR4. 

 

Brand new socket i think is 2021. With the release of PCIe 4.0 among other thing. Thats my theory at least. 

Rumor is Epyc 2 will run PCIe 4.0, so we'll see. If there's enough pin-outs on the current SP3 socket, it won't be much of an issue, and AMD is a company that might think to stay on a physical socket longer. Though I do feel Epyc 2 and TR3 will migrate. 

[Streetguru]

8 hours ago, Zubinix said:

 

Probably just get whatever is cheaper then, the AMD GPU is just useful to save some cash on free-sync over G-sync.

[NelizMastr]

18 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Rumor is Epyc 2 will run PCIe 4.0, so we'll see. If there's enough pin-outs on the current SP3 socket, it won't be much of an issue, and AMD is a company that might think to stay on a physical socket longer. Though I do feel Epyc 2 and TR3 will migrate. 

Epyc 2 will sample in just a few months already, so it's going to launch eaely next year I reckon, which means Ryzen 2 (so not Ryzen+) will possibly also get PCIe 4.0 should they launch the X/B/A 5xx chipsets.

[Taf the Ghost]

4 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

Epyc 2 will sample in just a few months already, so it's going to launch eaely next year I reckon, which means Ryzen 2 (so not Ryzen+) will possibly also get PCIe 4.0 should they launch the X/B/A 5xx chipsets.

Chipset won't matter, but the socket & motherboard layouts will. I don't think we'll see official PCIe 4.0 AM4 boards, but maybe AM4+ rolls out in 2019 that'll allow full PCIe 4.0 lanes. (It's functionally just double the current PCIe 3.0 lanes.)