Posted June 6, 2018 I recently purchased an FX-8350, and installed it in my motherboard, a Ga-78lmt-s2 (revision 1.2). On startup, the bios said the CPU was unsupported and the CPU would be under clocked to maintain stability. Is it dangerous to use an unsupported cpu, is there anything i can do to stop the system under clocking, and, if i cant do anything, do you know any good motherboards i could use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Digital_shadow said: I recently purchased an FX-8350, and installed it in my motherboard, a Ga-78lmt-s2 (revision 1.2). On startup, the bios said the CPU was unsupported and the CPU would be under clocked to maintain stability. Is it dangerous to use an unsupported cpu, is there anything i can do to stop the system under clocking, and, if i cant do anything, do you know any good motherboards i could use. Update the BIOS for starters. That might fix it NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Digital_shadow said: I recently purchased an FX-8350 Why? Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said: Why? Oh come on now Princess... not everyone has four figures to throw at a modern system. And there are plenty of people who aren't hardcore gamers, who don't need the latest and greatest. NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Oh come on now Princess... not everyone has four figures to throw at a modern system. And there are plenty of people who aren't hardcore gamers, who don't need the latest and greatest. You cam make a perfectly good system with 3 figures using modern hardware. Im also asking why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 Author Just now, GoldenLag said: You cam make a perfectly good system with 3 figures using modern hardware. Im also asking why i got it because it was the best cpu for the am3+ socket my board has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, Digital_shadow said: i got it because it was the best cpu for the am3+ socket my board has Fair enough. A upgrade to DDR4 isnt exactly cheap these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 I second that, why? FX 8350 is 125w TDP That motherboard VRM is 3+1 which is not even adequate for Phenom II let alone a FX series, even 970 chipset motherboard had troubles running this cpu cause it's power hungry. In the end you end up buying another good motherboard to accommodate " cheap cpu " I mean if you are on budget get old i5 2500k and P67 motherboard, you all set for gaming, even able to overclock with same budget if not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said: You cam make a perfectly good system with 3 figures using modern hardware. Im also asking why Ok, so, gaming aside, what's wrong with the FX chip he bought? NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 Author 11 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Update the BIOS for starters. That might fix it I checked gigabytes website, i have the latest bios drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Digital_shadow said: I checked gigabytes website, i have the latest bios drivers. Then there isn't much you can do, the CPU draws more power than the motherboard can safely supply, hence why it's being downclocked NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 Gigabyte claims this board can support an FX 8300 (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-78LMT-S2-rev-12#support-cpu) which is a down clocked version of the 8350. You might just have to live with not quite having the performance of an 8350, not a huge difference but it is a low end board Processor: i7 7700k@Stock GPU: GTX 1080 MSI Armor OC Mobo: Asus Prime Z270-A RAM: Corsair LPX 16GB 3200 MHz CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 SSD: Sandisk Ultra 2 960GB Case: Phanteks P400s PSU: Gigabyte B700H Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz Mouse: Logitech G900 Keyboard: Corsair Strafe w/ MX Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Ok, so, gaming aside, what's wrong with the FX chip he bought? The per thread performance is GOD awful. And power efficiency is also not great. Other than that nothing too bad exept it being quite old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 Author 3 minutes ago, Rupe said: Gigabyte claims this board can support an FX 8300 (https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-78LMT-S2-rev-12#support-cpu) which is a down clocked version of the 8350. You might just have to live with not quite having the performance of an 8350, not a huge difference but it is a low end board Other than the lower performance, will there be any danger to the motherboard itself for using it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Ok, so, gaming aside, what's wrong with the FX chip he bought? It will burn his board to a crisp due to insufficient VRMs. 1 minute ago, Digital_shadow said: Other than the lower performance, will there be any danger to the motherboard itself for using it? Yes, the VRM isn't suitable for this CPU so it might fry your board. PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D - MSI B550M Mortar - 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3600 @ CL16 - ASRock RX7800XT - 660p 1TBGB & Crucial P5 1TB - Fractal Define Mini C - CM V750v2 - Windows 11 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said: The per thread performance is GOD awful. And power efficiency is also not great. Other than that nothing too bad exept it being quite old. Fair enough, and what do you base this on? In other words, the CPU is perhaps not great for gaming, but if you are running Office, or Internet browsing, will you even notice? I kinda doubt it. NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said: That motherboard VRM is 3+1 which is not even adequate for Phenom II let alone a FX series, even 970 chipset motherboard had troubles running this cpu cause it's power hungry. And there's not even a piece of sorta 'heatsink' on top of the already worrying VRMs! 5 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said: I mean if you are on budget get old i5 2500k and P67 motherboard, you all set for gaming, even able to overclock with same budget if not less. I doubt if OP can afford these two even after selling the old AM3 motherboard and not buying the fx-8350 in the first place, but even the i5-2400 is better in games because the FX is power throttling hard. 6 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Ok, so, gaming aside, what's wrong with the FX chip he bought? single core performance isnt there and efficiency sucks. Tbh FX 8 core is only good in tasks that use multiple CPU cores well like rendering (8 cores after all), but anything but that will run badly. 6 minutes ago, Digital_shadow said: I checked gigabytes website, i have the latest bios drivers. More logical way is to sell the FX and motherboard (seperately, because they are a bad pairing and no one will buy both at once), check the budget again and find some used Intel CPU and matching motherboard. FX is for and only for very low budget workstations. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Digital_shadow said: Other than the lower performance, will there be any danger to the motherboard itself for using it? Usually when the motherboard does that, it means the VRMs are literally cooking themselves and are on the edge of a thermal shutdown. Of course there's danger. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 if you don't know which side or what is vrm That mofset can draw too much power and overheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Jurrunio said: single core performance isnt there Isn't there for what? Gaming? I asked what was wrong with using it for non-gaming. If you're writing a book or hitting youtube, it's plenty fine for that. NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Digital_shadow said: Other than the lower performance, will there be any danger to the motherboard itself for using it? I would of said it was fine, given the motherboard has detected it is unsupported and I would assume it would downclock it to a safe level. But other people don't seem to agree and seem to think the board will fry and honestly I don't know enough to say they are wrong Processor: i7 7700k@Stock GPU: GTX 1080 MSI Armor OC Mobo: Asus Prime Z270-A RAM: Corsair LPX 16GB 3200 MHz CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 SSD: Sandisk Ultra 2 960GB Case: Phanteks P400s PSU: Gigabyte B700H Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz Mouse: Logitech G900 Keyboard: Corsair Strafe w/ MX Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Ok, so, gaming aside, what's wrong with the FX chip he bought? It's support is trash, a lot of applications tends to crash with it while performance wise it's terrible enough to be severely outperformed by current day DUAL cores. FX is a dead obsolete platform, I understand he wanted to re-purpose his motherboard but frankly speaking not worth it, saving the wasted money on this CPU (that's giving him issues already lol) to afford any thing newer would have been a much wiser decision. Personal Desktop": CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot: SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro. Luna, the temporary Desktop: CPU: AMD R9 7950XT |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 Author 5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: Usually when the motherboard does that, it means the VRMs are literally cooking themselves and are on the edge of a thermal shutdown. Of course there's danger. Im looking at am3+ boards now, do you know what model vrms ill need to look for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said: Fair enough, and what do you base this on? In other words, the CPU is perhaps not great for gaming, but if you are running Office, or Internet browsing, will you even notice? I kinda doubt it. The CPU is improving in gaming due to multicore support. Other than Gaming the CPU is decent, but i would never recommend kt for a new build almost regardless of price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said: It's support is trash, a lot of applications tends to crash with it while performance wise it's terrible enough to be severely outperformed by current day DUAL cores. I've never run across this with my fx setup, in the 3+ years I've had it, this is news to me. Care to cite examples? NOTE: I no longer frequent this site. If you really need help, PM/DM me and my e.mail will alert me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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