4670k or FX-8350?

[BigChimp97]

Hi guys

I've been thinking about upgrading my whole system alot recently, and since I received newer games, I've noticed that the multiplayer side of things has been lagging quite alot more than the single player, games such as BF4, this points to the CPU being the issue not that GPU. I have another post that goes into more detail here. So my question is, would it be more future proof to get a 4670k, or an 8350? Seeing as newer games will be designed to work on the newer consoles, and also... Mantle!!

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

My Specs are below and as you can see I already have an AMD processor, so I wouldn't need a new motherboard.

Specs: 

Motherboard - Asus M5A97

CPU - AMD FX-4170

GPU - GTX 560ti

Ram - 16gb Kingston DDR3 1600mhz

 

If you need any more specs then please let me know!!

Thanks in advance.

[Guest GRRigger]

id say, new gpu and 6300 or 8320, but only overclocked for cuple hundrend mhz

 

btw whats your budget?

[XzzDSA]

BF4 is still buggy as hell, so I would properly wait and see with that one, it should get better according to EA and Dice.. Not sure how much you can trust them anymore though

 

Your CPU is not a power house, but it should do the job tbh..

 

As for CPU upgrade, I would go for an Intel, although if you do not feel like throwing out your motherboard for a new one, then get the AMD one. But if you can wait, I would properly wait and see what happens to BF4

[DudeWazap]

I would say to upgrade your CPU to an 8320 and get something like an r9 270 or 280x for your GPU.

[XzzDSA]

BF4 is still buggy as hell, so I would properly wait and see with that one, it should get better according to EA and Dice.. Not sure how much you can trust them anymore though

 

Your CPU is not a power house, but it should do the job tbh..

 

As for CPU upgrade, I would go for an Intel, although if you do not feel like throwing out your motherboard for a new one, then get the AMD one. But if you can wait, I would properly wait and see what happens to BF4

I know this is properly not the answer you were looking for, but that's my view at it.

[Guest]

8350 seems like the most straightforward option. The promises of console optimizations and Mantle are still pretty nebulous at this point, so I'm basing this mostly off the value proposition compared to a switch to Intel.

[WoodenMarker]

I would say to upgrade your CPU to an 8320 and get something like an r9 270 or 280x for your GPU.

^ Do also grab an aftermarket cooler like the 212 Evo and get a decent oc.

[BigChimp97]

^ Do also grab an aftermarket cooler like the 212 Evo and get a decent oc.

I've already got a 212 Evo on my 4170

Another point is that I currently only have the money for an 8350, if i went down the intel round i'd have to wait a couple of months to save up the money and also my gpu would come later next year, so that's another factor, is there much of a performance difference though?

BF4 is still buggy as hell, so I would properly wait and see with that one, it should get better according to EA and Dice.. Not sure how much you can trust them anymore though

Your CPU is not a power house, but it should do the job tbh..

As for CPU upgrade, I would go for an Intel, although if you do not feel like throwing out your motherboard for a new one, then get the AMD one. But if you can wait, I would properly wait and see what happens to BF4

I've been doing some research and alot of people with the same FX-4*** series cpu's are having problems with Battlefield 4 multiplayer.

Might as well just go with the 8350 since you already have a compatible motherboard. Save the rest of the money for a possible GPU upgrade. Since more games are taking advantage of more cores, you won't have to upgrade in quite some time.

That's pretty much been my view on the whole thing, but i thought id ask for some other peoples opinions before making the decision. Even if i did buy the 8350 i wouldnt be able to buy a gpu until later this year.

Just another question would everyone agree that my CPU is the problem here?

[Guest GRRigger]

Just another question would everyone agree that my CPU is the problem here?

cpu and gpu

but in mutiplayer, yes, cpu is very weak

[BigChimp97]

cpu and gpu

but in mutiplayer, yes, cpu is very weak

It runs fine on single player as i've said in the other forum post upto medium, but multiplayer is unplayable on even the lowest. Thanks!

[ace2k8]

4670k all the way better motherboard for lower price. Also the Intel platform has more features Andys in three plus plus. Just recently switched from a 8150 4670K loving the new Intel plant

[FileCorrupted]

That gpu is still pretty kick ass, upgrade to the 8350 so you dont  need to swap mobos and you get 8 core goodness, Check benchmarks on that thing it will run any game on the market maxed out (as far as I know)

[BigChimp97]

4670k all the way better motherboard for lower price. Also the Intel platform has more features Andys in three plus plus. Just recently switched from a 8150 4670K loving the new Intel plant

I'm not really looking for features to be honest, I put the processor in, check it works and off I go. I already have the motherboard, im just not sure if its worth the extra nearly £200 over the AMD, in the long run. And i'd also have to wait a couple of months to get the money for the intel swap, whereas 8350, I could buy right now.


Or you can go for the slightly cheaper AMD 8150. The 8150 is about 10 to 15 percent slower the8350

That gpu is still pretty kick ass, upgrade to the 8350 so you dont need to swap mobos and you get 8 core goodness, Check benchmarks on that thing it will run any game on the market maxed out (as far as I know)

Thanks man! I'm starting to lean towards the 8350, from all these replies.

Or you can go for the slightly cheaper AMD 8150. The 8150 is about 10 to 15 percent slower the8350

Can only buy one on amazon in the UK and its £10 more expensive than the 8350 that I can get somewhere else.

[ace2k8]

Not that I know of but no longer making that CPU. I was still strongly suggest switching to the Intel platform if you're looking for more power. You tell platform is more versatile is better supported then AMD. The extra money would be worth it if you can hold out

[BigChimp97]

Not that I know of but no longer making that CPU. I was still strongly suggest switching to the Intel platform if you're looking for more power. You tell platform is more versatile is better supported then AMD. The extra money would be worth it if you can hold out

If i hold out on the cpu for a couple of months then that would put off getting a newer graphics card next year, to an even later date

Might as well just go with the 8350 since you already have a compatible motherboard. Save the rest of the money for a possible GPU upgrade. Since more games are taking advantage of more cores, you won't have to upgrade in quite some time.

Seeing as you have an 8350 and a 560ti, whats the performance like with them?

[Dr3nz4r]

Seeing as you have an 8350 and a 560ti, whats the performance like with them?

not that better atm, but it will be better in near future..he may think about selling his 560Ti ( i sold mine 6 Month ago for 200€) and then upgrade to a 700 Series GPU

[ace2k8]

Do what I did just build a new PC lol. I was going through the same choices a few months ago

[BigChimp97]

Do what I did just build a new PC lol. I was going through the same choices a few months ago

I don't have the money...

[TechFan@ic]

Going from an FX 4170 to an FX 8350 will make a really big difference in BF4.
I recommend getting an FX 8320 instead and overclocking it to 4.2-4.3Ghz on the Hyper 212 EVO, and then sell your 560 Ti and get an R9 280X once the prices settle once more.
No need to spend money on a new motherboard or an intel cpu.


http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/battlefield-4-test-gpu.html

[Pelop17]

 

Hi guys

I've been thinking about upgrading my whole system alot recently, and since I received newer games, I've noticed that the multiplayer side of things has been lagging quite alot more than the single player, games such as BF4, this points to the CPU being the issue not that GPU. I have another post that goes into more detail here. So my question is, would it be more future proof to get a 4670k, or an 8350? Seeing as newer games will be designed to work on the newer consoles, and also... Mantle!!

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

My Specs are below and as you can see I already have an AMD processor, so I wouldn't need a new motherboard.

Specs: 

Motherboard - Asus M5A97

CPU - AMD FX-4170

GPU - GTX 560ti

Ram - 16gb Kingston DDR3 1600mhz

 

If you need any more specs then please let me know!!

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

^ Do also grab an aftermarket cooler like the 212 Evo and get a decent oc.

Kamina, on 25 Dec 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

8 core FX > i5 for multi-threading 

i5 > 8 core FX for single core performance

i7 > FX 8 core for everything.

FX 8 core > i7 price difference for multi-threading

verry neat little thingy you wrote there.. may be helpful for a lot of other people too, which think that only expensive stuff is good

[BigChimp97]

Going from an FX 4170 to an FX 8350 will make a really big difference in BF4.

I recommend getting an FX 8320 instead and overclocking it to 4.2-4.3Ghz on the Hyper 212 EVO, and then sell your 560 Ti and get an R9 280X once the prices settle once more.

No need to spend money on a new motherboard or an intel cpu.

http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/battlefield-4-test-gpu.html

Thanks for that reply man!! Looks like i'm going to be getting a new 8350 I wont get an 8320 simply because ive never overclocked before, and i dont know what im doing.

[TechFan@ic]

Thanks for that reply man!! Looks like i'm going to be getting a new 8350 I wont get an 8320 simply because ive never overclocked before, and i dont know what im doing.

You're welcome, overclocking isn't difficult and there are numerous guides out there to help you out.

You never know, you might even end up overclocking the 8350.

[airdeano]

Thanks for that reply man!! Looks like i'm going to be getting a new 8350 I wont get an 8320 simply because ive never overclocked before, and i dont know what im doing.

 

pretty much everybody has gone through that phase of "not-knowing" how to

overclock. it is just understanding what you really need to do beforehand and

what areas need the most attention to overclock.

 

usually, just the multiplier and voltage can make the simplest changes, then you

start reaching for the most and that is where complications can get you crossed-up.

guides, forum help, and videos have made a lot of OC nervous types a lot calmer.

 

asking for exact numbers usually gets most in trouble as the CPUs vary in

tolerances, material and hardware build. so general help is what is available.

[BigChimp97]

You're welcome, overclocking isn't difficult and there are numerous guides out there to help you out.

You never know, you might even end up overclocking the 8350.

I may do! But at the minute i'd like to keep everything stock, until im confident enough to start messing around with things abit. Another question is would the 8350 be a huge upgrade from my 4170 in most gaming scenarios, like what you've shown me with BF4? I will be getting an 8350 now, simply as it will save nearly £200 which could be put to better use than to do the Intel switch which looks as though it would give me roughly the same performance. The thing is, is that even on older games on my 4170 its completely fine so people saying that the i5 has better single threaded performance doesnt really bother me as even my 4170 has been completely fine. For me the 8350 looks like the only viable and suitable option!

[TechFan@ic]

I may do! But at the minute i'd like to keep everything stock, until im confident enough to start messing around with things abit. Another question is would the 8350 be a huge upgrade from my 4170 in most gaming scenarios, like what you've shown me with BF4?

It will as long as you have a powerful graphics card to take advantage of it.

With your 560 Ti the performance improvement will be more modest, until you step up to an R9 280X or a 290.

 

I will be getting an 8350 now, simply as it will save nearly £200 which could be put to better use than to do the Intel switch which looks as though it would give me roughly the same performance. The thing is, is that even on older games on my 4170 its completely fine so people saying that the i5 has better single threaded performance doesnt really bother me as even my 4170 has been completely fine. For me the 8350 looks like the only viable and suitable option!

I completely agree, single-threaded performance only matters in older games which can't make use of all the 8 cores in the 8350, but performance in these older games is going to be just fine on the 8350, it's the newer CPU intensive games that really matter, games like BF4, Crysis 3 & Far Cry 3 all are very well optimized for AMD multi-core CPUs.