Best build for 4K Gaming?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

Ugh okay then. So how about this, make a build with a 1080 ti and 16 gigs of ram but with an 8600K or if you can, something even better

If you can afford it I say go for it although I'd look at an R5 2600.

[YourNewPalAlex]

Just now, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

If you can afford it I say go for it although I'd look at an R5 2600.

my budget is 1310$ with no ssd 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

my budget is 1310$ with no ssd 

you mean you already have it?

 

Does this include monitor and peripherals?

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

you mean you already have it?

 

Does this include monitor and peripherals?

yeah i have an ssd and no it does not include a monitor and peripherals.

[Princess Luna]

You can play at 4k fine with the i5 8400 and a 1070 Ti just fine if your target is 60fps xd.

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

You can play at 4k fine with the i5 8400 and a 1070 Ti just fine if your target is 60fps xd.

my target is 60fps yeah

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PKx7RJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PKx7RJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S SE-AM4 CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($112.90 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: [Whatever SSD you already have]
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW2 Gaming iCX Video Card  ($569.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 75.0 CFM  120mm Fans  ($31.70 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1346.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 17:57 EDT-0400

 

Ought to handle 4K, wasn't able to get the 1080 Ti in there but it'll handle 4K well anyway.

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PKx7RJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PKx7RJ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U12S SE-AM4 CPU Cooler  ($59.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($112.90 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: [Whatever SSD you already have]
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW2 Gaming iCX Video Card  ($569.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: Corsair - ML120 75.0 CFM  120mm Fans  ($31.70 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1346.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 17:57 EDT-0400

 

Ought to handle 4K, wasn't able to get the 1080 Ti in there but it'll handle 4K well anyway.

lemme make some changes and lets compare the i5-8400 and the r5 2600 build?

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

lemme make some changes and lets compare the i5-8400 and the r5 2600 build?

Alright shoot.

[Princess Luna]

A cheap system like this is perfectly capable of playing at 4k

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($82.88 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($82.88 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($469.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($67.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $1118.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 18:07 EDT-0400

 

Just remember that ultras settings are not every thing:

If you want to replace the i5 8400 for an i7 8700 and the 1070 Ti for a 1080 Ti that's cool it'll give you improved performance for the ultras eye candy but frankly speaking if you're on a tighter budget there's no need for it... specially if you want just 60fps.

 

I would still highly recommend an ultrawide 3440x1440p even if 60hz too though as this offers much more immersive gaming experience, 4k at 28 inches is identical to 2560x1440p you only gain pixel density like a super sampling at a very high cost of performance... no particularly worth it, I prefer the extra virtual space you gain going 21:9

[YourNewPalAlex]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

A cheap system like this is perfectly capable of playing at 4k

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($82.88 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($82.88 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($469.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox Lite 3.1 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($43.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1095.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 18:02 EDT-0400

 

Just remember that ultras settings are not every thing:

If you want to replace the i5 8400 for an i7 8700 and the 1070 Ti for a 1080 Ti that's cool it'll give you improved performance for the ultras eye candy but frankly speaking if you're on a tighter budget there's no need for it... specially if you want just 60fps.

 

I would still highly recommend an ultrawide 3440x1440p even if 60hz too though as this offers much more immersive gaming experience, 4k at 28 inches is identical to 2560x1440p you only gain pixel density like a super sampling at a very high cost of performance... no particularly worth it, I prefer the extra virtual space you gain going 21:9

hah i have a 4k tv thats why im shooting for 4k 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

hah i have a 4k tv thats why im shooting for 4k 

High settings and Ultra settings look about the same in my experience, I usually play at High to reduce GPU load.

[YourNewPalAlex]

6 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Alright shoot.

alright heres the build, i squeezed in a 1080 ti but i put a lower teer mobo and i didnt put a cooler, and a less expensive case. I left you 40$ for an upgrade in any component you think needs an upgrade. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TghCdX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TghCdX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - A320M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card  ($754.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($51.75 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1275.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 18:10 EDT-0400

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

High settings and Ultra settings look about the same in my experience, I usually play at High to reduce GPU load.

yeah yeah ik

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, YourNewPalAlex said:

alright heres the build, i squeezed in a 1080 ti but i put a lower teer mobo and i didnt put a cooler, and a less expensive case. I left you 40$ for an upgrade in any component you think needs an upgrade. 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TghCdX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TghCdX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - A320M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($54.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB ARMOR Video Card  ($754.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($51.75 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1275.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 18:10 EDT-0400

Get rid of that A320 garbage. Pay like $15 extra for a decent motherboard like this one

[YourNewPalAlex]

2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Get rid of that A320 garbage. Pay like $15 extra for a decent motherboard like this one

mate you have 40$ leftover. Mod the build and make it as best as you can. Heres the link for quick access 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhZh3b
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhZh3b/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.82 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DUKE OC Video Card  ($799.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($51.75 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1335.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 18:18 EDT-0400

 

I went $30 over budget but now you have a decent GPU cooler, not that ARMOR shit.

[YourNewPalAlex]

2 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhZh3b
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MhZh3b/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.82 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($154.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($43.90 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DUKE OC Video Card  ($799.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($51.75 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1335.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-01 18:18 EDT-0400

 

I went $30 over budget but now you have a decent GPU cooler, not that ARMOR shit.

man 30$ is allot. You could sqeeze in an 8600K with 30bucks overboard

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Just now, YourNewPalAlex said:

man 30$ is allot. You could sqeeze in an 8600K with 30bucks overboard

2600 is a better CPU than the 8600K overall. Matches it in gaming and beats it in everything else, plus AMD has promised to support AM4 till at least 2020 so longer upgrade cycles.

[Pip313]

Ram is over priced and cpu’s Cost more and should only be bought once. By that logic get the best cpu you can and upgrade the ram later. 

[YourNewPalAlex]

Just now, Pip313 said:

Ram is over priced and cpu’s Cost more. By that logic get the best cpu you can and upgrade the ram later. 

well id rather pay 10$ more for higher speed ram then pay the 150$ more for another kit of ram :I

 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, Pip313 said:

Ram is over priced and cpu’s Cost more and should only be bought once. By that logic get the best cpu you can and upgrade the ram later. 

Wrong, 8GB is not enough in 2018 for anything above super budget rigs

[YourNewPalAlex]

5 minutes ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

2600 is a better CPU than the 8600K overall. Matches it in gaming and beats it in everything else, plus AMD has promised to support AM4 till at least 2020 so longer upgrade cycles.

you sure? 

Thats the i5-8400. And the intel chip still beats the ryzen. So i would imagine that the i5-8600K creams the r5 2600

[Pip313]

I never said buy slow ram I was saying buy the extra 8 later.

 

And to the comment that 8gb isn’t enough, sure. But if you’re buying 16gb you’re still buying 2 8gb sticks. Buying one later doesnt hurt you.

 

but finding out your $300 cpu isn’t enough and you have to spend another $350 to replace it does.

[YourNewPalAlex]

1 minute ago, Pip313 said:

I never said buy slow ram I was saying buy the extra 8 later.

 

And to the comment that 8gb isn’t enough, sure. But if you’re buying 16gb you’re still buying 2 8gb sticks. Buying one later doesnt hurt you.

 

but finding out your $300 cpu isn’t enough and you have to spend another $350 to replace it does.

mate the i5-8400 is 178$ and it performs as well as the r5 2600X. Why would you replance it??