case New Case - Airflow, Silence & Thermal

[Vincek]

Hello.
I built a computer 3 months ago and I always use my computer as a heater of some sort during the winter. But now that it's summer.
The room gets really hot when I wake up, despite windows open to let cool air in during the night to compensate when the sun comes
up and haunts every gamer in the world. I am wondering if I should buy a new case or change fan setup. 

Computer Specs & Fan setup:

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Fan Setup: https://i.imgur.com/JTd7DAM.jpg
Case: https://www.amazon.com/NZXT-H440-Tower-Case-Black/dp/B00I44EUAK

CPU: https://ark.intel.com/products/126684/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4_70-GHz
GPU: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Support-08G-P4-5173-KR/dp/B01KVZBNY0
RAM: https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8
MB: https://www.amazon.com/LGA1151-Motherboard-802-11ac-Generation-Processors/dp/B075RHWCC4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527240119&sr=1-1&keywords=ASUS+ROG+STRIX+Z370-E+GAMING 
PSU: https://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SSR-750FX-ATX12V-Modular-Compact/dp/B073GWKDVM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1527240162&sr=1-1&keywords=Seasonic+FOCUS+Plus+750W+Gold

 

Thermal test on "idle" and gaming load:

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CPUID HwMonitor Numbers with BDO Trayed
Black Desert Online running in tray at lowest settings possible
CPU or GPU not overclocked!

Case Fan 1: Push Rear 1x140mm [Noctua NF-A14 Premium Fan] 
                     Min: 503 RPM     Max: 742 RPM
Case Fan #2: Pull Front 3x120mm [Noctua NF-F12 Premium Fan]

                     Min: 897/3 RPM  Max: 1085/3 RPM
Corsair H115i: Push Top 2x140mm [Noctua NF-A14 Premium Fan]
                     Min: 772 RPM     Max: 981 RPM   (Fixed at 70% RPM 960-1020 RPM in Corsair Link)
                     Water Temps/Pump RPM: 36.1 °C / /19501980 RPM
CPU Package: 
                        Min: 36°C  Max: 45 °C
GPU:

                        Min: 48 °C   Max: 52 °C
                        Value: 350 RPM Min: 171 RPM Max: 1426 RPM (<- Uncertain, since the game is in tray it's not using GPU)

 

 

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CPUID HwMonitor Numbers with BDO
Black Desert Online running in preset Highest spec (normal)
CPU or GPU not overclocked!
 

Case Fan 1: Push Rear 1x140mm [Noctua NF-A14 Premium Fan] 
                     Min: 503 RPM     Max: 742 RPM       (No change, BIOS setup)
Case Fan #2: Pull Front 3x120mm [Noctua NF-F12 Premium Fan]

                     Min: 897/3 RPM  Max: 1085/3 RPM  (No change, BIOS setup)
Corsair H115i: Push Top 2x140mm [Noctua NF-A14 Premium Fan]
                     Min: 772 RPM     Max: 985 RPM   (Fixed at 70% RPM 960-1020 RPM in Corsair Link)
                     Water Temps/Pump RPM: 38.6 °C / /19501980 RPM
CPU Package: 
                        Min: 36  Max: 64/71 °C
GPU:

                        Min: 48 °C   Max: 66 °C
                        Value: 1416 RPM Min: 170 RPM Max: 1426 RPM

 

 

 

 

[meenmeen1103]

Those numbers don't look bad really for slightly above 20C ambient. I don't think fan setup hinders much, at least not relative to the popular flat-solid-panels-with-side-vents case designing. Something with more airflow-oriented panels such as Fractal Meshify C or Corsair H500P Mesh could yield lower temps but also will likely be louder.

[GoldenLag]

the pc will allways dump heat into the room. only thing you can really do is setupp the pc to dump that heat out the windows. (maybe place it by the window (idk)

[GOTSpectrum]

9 minutes ago, meenmeen1103 said:

Corsair H500P

Cooler master.

8 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

the pc will allways dump heat into the room. only thing you can really do is setupp the pc to dump that heat out the windows. (maybe place it by the window (idk)

My friend runs his outputs into a cloths drier vent(using an in-line fan). It's loud, but cool on hot days.

[meenmeen1103]

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

Cooler master.

Oh duh! Late night, silly mistake 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

My friend runs his outputs into a cloths drier vent(using an in-line fan). It's loud, but cool on hot days.

he could dump all the heat into a vat of water using a radiator and a insulated fan. wouldnt recommend it due to coorosion. and the heat will eventually end up in the room anyway

[GOTSpectrum]

Just now, meenmeen1103 said:

Oh duh! Late night, silly mistake 

Haha we've all been there!

 

 

[Vincek]

 

1 hour ago, meenmeen1103 said:

Those numbers don't look bad really for slightly above 20C ambient. I don't think fan setup hinders much, at least not relative to the popular flat-solid-panels-with-side-vents case designing. Something with more airflow-oriented panels such as Fractal Meshify C or Corsair H500P Mesh could yield lower temps but also will likely be louder.

All the test was done with dust filter in the front & front panel off and top panel on. (As well as door closed and window open)
I am currently running all panels and dust filters off, to cool my PC and radiator fans are running at 100% in Corsair Link. (The other fans are still the same)
The door is open and windows are open, the windows have the 2 Corsair 140mm fans that comes with the radiator sitting
near the window pulling and pushing air connected with the Noctua Low-Noise adapter). 

The room ambient temperature I would guess is between 22-26C. I have no way to check, but the fact that I am sweating right
now. Makes me believe those numbers, even with breeze hiting me.  

Black Desert Online is running at highest settings as mention above!
This is the temperatures I have NOW in corsair link with TOP ON: https://i.imgur.com/T3DtzV3.png
This is the temperatures I have NOW in corsair link with TOP OFF: https://i.imgur.com/RTVxF4r.png
CPU Package temp: lowest: 52  highest: 70C

[meenmeen1103]

56 minutes ago, Vincek said:

 

All the test was done with dust filter in the front & front panel off and top panel on. (As well as door closed and window open)
I am currently running all panels and dust filters off, to cool my PC and radiator fans are running at 100% in Corsair Link. (The other fans are still the same)
The door is open and windows are open, the windows have the 2 Corsair 140mm fans that comes with the radiator sitting
near the window pulling and pushing air connected with the Noctua Low-Noise adapter). 

The room ambient temperature I would guess is between 22-26C. I have no way to check, but the fact that I am sweating right
now. Makes me believe those numbers, even with breeze hiting me.  

Black Desert Online is running at highest settings as mention above!
This is the temperatures I have NOW in corsair link with TOP ON: https://i.imgur.com/T3DtzV3.png
This is the temperatures I have NOW in corsair link with TOP OFF: https://i.imgur.com/RTVxF4r.png
CPU Package temp: lowest: 52  highest: 70C

Yeah slightly high hardware temps for load % but with ambient being high to start off, sensible. Looks like the top panel doesn't make a huge difference, but a different case could help as far as aesthetics of not having a front panel currently. As far as room temp, a different case nor fan setup would help. You either want to dump the heat straight out of the room like mentioned above, or promote even more airflow circulation in your room with a window and/or door open

[Dedayog]

Is adding a ceiling fan to the room an option?  Moving air feels cooler than still air, even same temp.  Or add a floor fan of some sort and blow air in from the cooler hallway or out of the room into the hallway?  How about a window A/C unit?

 

WIthout going ghetto like your friend, you're going to have heat in the room unless you go for a much lower performing PC.

[Vincek]

46 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Is adding a ceiling fan to the room an option?  Moving air feels cooler than still air, even same temp.  Or add a floor fan of some sort and blow air in from the cooler hallway or out of the room into the hallway?  How about a window A/C unit?

 

WIthout going ghetto like your friend, you're going to have heat in the room unless you go for a much lower performing PC.

 

1 hour ago, meenmeen1103 said:

Yeah slightly high hardware temps for load % but with ambient being high to start off, sensible. Looks like the top panel doesn't make a huge difference, but a different case could help as far as aesthetics of not having a front panel currently. As far as room temp, a different case nor fan setup would help. You either want to dump the heat straight out of the room like mentioned above, or promote even more airflow circulation in your room with a window and/or door open

Answering both at the same time.

There is no way I can install a ceiling fan as the room have a light source half the
size of a normal ceiling fan and if installed. I do have a hole in one of the walls to
get somewhat fresh air in during the winter. Floor fan would push air in from nature
and a good increase of dust and things eight fold, due to the room beneath me is
basically the foundation of where the house stands on. I was thinking of buying a
A/C unit, however. My room is barely a little bit larger than a storage room ^_^. 

As I mention, my only solution was the ghetto solution of using the 2x140mm fan
I got with my Corsair H115i to pull air in and/or push out. To at least cool the room
a little bit. However I would like to point out that my main goal with this post is to get
lower temps of the computer. However I do understand that the ambient temperature 
of the room plays a roll aswell.

If you have any ideas on how to improve ambient room temperature without spending
a lot of money. Would love that a lot