Unable to POST Intel S1151 system

[hoaxy32]

Hi all, 

 

I've got this setup which I'm struggling to get to POST, Spec's are as follows: Intel Core i5 7400, Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 (rev. 1.0), 2 x 4GB Teamgroup DDR3 1600 (TED34GM1600HC11BK), Corsair AX650.

I'm playing to use it as a test bed so not going to be using an external GPU so onboard is fine.

 

Am I missing anything here as I've been racking my brain all day? Maybe a DOA item?

 

Unfortunately, this is my only Intel system in the house so unable to swap out motherboards or cpu's. So any ideas would be a massive help.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Giiman95]

If I remember correctly, that board probably needs a UEFI update in order to support that cpu.

[chckovsky]

1 minute ago, Giiman95 said:

If I remember correctly, that board probably needs a UEFI update in order to support that cpu.

Yep. And i THINK you need a 6th gen processor to do so.

 

[Giiman95]

Just now, chckovsky said:

Yep. And i THINK you need a 6th gen processor to do so.

 

@chckovsky is right. UEFI version F21 is one of the first to support 7th gen chips.

[BarackOBatman]

43 minutes ago, hoaxy32 said:

Hi all, 

 

I've got this setup which I'm struggling to get to POST, Spec's are as follows: Intel Core i5 7400, Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H DDR3 (rev. 1.0), 2 x 4GB Teamgroup DDR3 1600 (TED34GM1600HC11BK), Corsair AX650.

I'm playing to use it as a test bed so not going to be using an external GPU so onboard is fine.

 

Am I missing anything here as I've been racking my brain all day? Maybe a DOA item?

 

Unfortunately, this is my only Intel system in the house so unable to swap out motherboards or cpu's. So any ideas would be a massive help.

 

Thanks in advance.

Kaby lake only works with DDR3L (the mini ones), and isnt compatible with regular DDR3. They shouldnt even fit in the DIMMs ???

[hoaxy32]

34 minutes ago, Giiman95 said:

If I remember correctly, that board probably needs a UEFI update in order to support that cpu.

Ok, I thought that was the case as it mentioned a newer BIOS rev on the cpu support list. Thanks bud

 

34 minutes ago, chckovsky said:

Yep. And i THINK you need a 6th gen processor to do so.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Giiman95 said:

@chckovsky is right. UEFI version F21 is one of the first to support 7th gen chips.

 

15 minutes ago, BarackOBatman said:

Kaby lake only works with DDR3L (the mini ones), and isnt compatible with regular DDR3. They shouldnt even fit in the DIMMs ???

Damn, okay looks like I picked up the wrong kit of RAM. Unfortunately, they do fit oddly enough so I guess same contact layout and notch placement?

 

Thanks guys, I need to go back to the drawing board on this. 

[BarackOBatman]

50 minutes ago, hoaxy32 said:

Ok, I thought that was the case as it mentioned a newer BIOS rev on the cpu support list. Thanks bud

 

 

 

Damn, okay looks like I picked up the wrong kit of RAM. Unfortunately, they do fit oddly enough so I guess same contact layout and notch placement?

 

Thanks guys, I need to go back to the drawing board on this. 

You may want a second opinion on this Then..

I'm not professional when it comes to this stuff. Just an enthusiast. Does the notch on the RAM match up with the notch in the slot?

[hoaxy32]

7 minutes ago, BarackOBatman said:

You may want a second opinion on this Then..

I'm not professional when it comes to this stuff. Just an enthusiast. Does the notch on the RAM match up with the notch in the slot?

Yeah, I think it refers to the DDR3L in the same form factor as normal DDR3 but its just low voltage. So I guess that's why it still fits perfectly even the notch.

[BarackOBatman]

1 hour ago, hoaxy32 said:

Yeah, I think it refers to the DDR3L in the same form factor as normal DDR3 but its just low voltage. So I guess that's why it still fits perfectly even the notch.

I misunderstood.. so ignore the strikethrough text. But yeah, you're right. It might need to be the lower power stuff. Interestingly the motherboard's RAM QVL says it supports some regular DDR3 as well? http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-b150m-d3h-ddr3.pdf

 

Normal DDR3 has the same notch position as the DDR3L in the normal form factor but neither of these match the DDR4 notch.

Not only that, the pin layouts are different.

 

https://superuser.com/questions/950163/is-ddr4-ram-compatible-in-a-ddr3-ram-slot

[hoaxy32]

8 hours ago, BarackOBatman said:

I misunderstood.. so ignore the strikethrough text. But yeah, you're right. It might need to be the lower power stuff. Interestingly the motherboard's RAM QVL says it supports some regular DDR3 as well? http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-b150m-d3h-ddr3.pdf

 

Normal DDR3 has the same notch position as the DDR3L in the normal form factor but neither of these match the DDR4 notch.

Not only that, the pin layouts are different.

 

https://superuser.com/questions/950163/is-ddr4-ram-compatible-in-a-ddr3-ram-slot

Yeah exactly what I thought, Maybe since release they've added functionality via BIOS firmware to now include normal DDR3. But as mentioned before the main issue I think is this board doesn't have the correct firmware for my CPU which sucks because I don't have an alternative CPU that will work to be able to do the firmware update lol

[BarackOBatman]

5 hours ago, hoaxy32 said:

Yeah exactly what I thought, Maybe since release they've added functionality via BIOS firmware to now include normal DDR3. But as mentioned before the main issue I think is this board doesn't have the correct firmware for my CPU which sucks because I don't have an alternative CPU that will work to be able to do the firmware update lol

damn... perhaps gigabyte can help? if you recently purchased the motherboard as new, the retailer may be able to help too.

[hoaxy32]

5 hours ago, BarackOBatman said:

damn... perhaps gigabyte can help? if you recently purchased the motherboard as new, the retailer may be able to help too.

Yeah, I'll see if there is any workaround for that. Maybe see if one of my local PC stores could help to loan a CPU while I do the firmware update.