Help with New Build #5

[c00lFD]

So I want a new system because my thirst for power never ends. I wanted a GTX 1070 ti, 16Gb of ram, and an AIO for under 1300. The thing I'm confused about is the CPU and mobo. I want at least 6 cores, so my options are a Ryzen 2600X or a i5 8600k. What is better?  I'm planning to play some VR, multitasking, recording, streaming and other things like that.

 

This is what I have right now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYb8J8 

[STRESSMASTER]

5 minutes ago, c00lFD said:

So I want a new system because my thirst for power never ends. I wanted a GTX 1070 ti, 16Gb of ram, and an AIO for under 1300. The thing I'm confused about is the CPU and mobo. I want at least 6 cores, so my options are a Ryzen 2600X or a i5 8600k. What is better?  I'm planning to play some VR, multitasking, recording, streaming and other things like that.

 

This is what I have right now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYb8J8 

you will have a RED versus Blue argument over this. I would say the Ryzen but don't get the X model get the standard 2600 or 2700. The overclocking is the same for both so save some money

[Atra1n2]

Ryzen is more affordable and support SMT (called HT on Intel side), whereas 8600k does not support HT, and is typically more expensive. Depending what chipset you go with, on the AMD side, motherboards may also be less expensive.

[LienusLateTips]

8600K > 2600X most of the time, but only slightly

 

However the 2600X mobos and chip itself are cheaper

[TheNaitsyrk]

42 minutes ago, c00lFD said:

So I want a new system because my thirst for power never ends. I wanted a GTX 1070 ti, 16Gb of ram, and an AIO for under 1300. The thing I'm confused about is the CPU and mobo. I want at least 6 cores, so my options are a Ryzen 2600X or a i5 8600k. What is better?  I'm planning to play some VR, multitasking, recording, streaming and other things like that.

 

This is what I have right now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYb8J8 

If you don't just game, get Ryzen 2700 or 2700X price difference is minimal and you might be able to get higher clocks like 4.2Ghz on all 8 cores. I got 4.2Ghz out of mine, and I haven't even tried 4.3Ghz which I might get! I know 8700k can get up to 5Ghz but replacing mobo with an upgrade is annoying and 6 cores instead of 8. But if you JUST game, then 8700k or even 8600K.

 

I suggest GTX 1080 used, not new from Amazon.

8700K or 2700 or 2700X for a little bit of futureproofing.

Motherboard obviously your choice. AMD mobos will last you until 2020+ as they will support all CPUs.

650W + Gold rating power supply.

3200Mhz is a sweetspot for memory so I'd pick that, unless you 3466 only costs slightly more. 

H115i is very solid I recommend it AIO.

Fans up to you.

Storage 2TB HDD + 240GB SSD.

 

Example links to get you around the idea:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Nvidia-1080-GDDR5-PCI/dp/B01J66BMXC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613593&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1080 £507

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-8-Core-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613641&sr=1-1&keywords=2700x £321 (can get it for less)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/x470-f-X470-AM4-ATX-Motherboard-Motherboards-3466-MHz/dp/B07C6N867G/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613673&sr=1-3&keywords=X470 £190

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-Modular-Power-Supply-210-GQ-0650-V3/dp/B017ROH8A6/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613690&sr=1-2&keywords=650W+psu £80

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3000C15-Vengeance-3000MHz-Performance/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613721&sr=1-2&keywords=ram £180

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CW-9060032-WW-Radiator-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B077G3C6HH/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613738&sr=1-1&keywords=h115i £125

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Desktop-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B013QFRS2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613754&sr=1-4&keywords=tb+hdd £54

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-PLUS-Sata-2-5-inch-Internal/dp/B01F9G43WU/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613780&sr=1-4&keywords=240gb+ssd £50

Case - £50

Fans - £20

TOTAL: £1577

If you get slower ram and less of it, it will be around £1480, If you also decide to pick different cooler that could be £1430 if it's H55 or something, B450 motherboard is another £50 off or so so that's £1380, and cheaper used GPU about £50 less makes it £1330. If you don't need 8 core, get 6 core and reduce the price to below £1300.

[c00lFD]

1 minute ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

If you don't just game, get Ryzen 2700 or 2700X price difference is minimal and you might be able to get higher clocks. I got 4.2Ghz out of mine, and I haven't even tried 4.3Ghz which I might get!

 

I suggest GTX 1080 used, not new from Amazon.

8700K or 2700 or 2700X for a little bit of futureproofing.

Motherboard obviously your choice. AMD mobos will last you until 2020+ as they will support all CPUs.

650W + Gold rating power supply.

3200Mhz is a sweetspot for memory so I'd pick that, unless you 3466 only costs slightly more. 

H115i is very solid I recommend it AIO.

Fans up to you.

Storage 2TB HDD + 240GB SSD.

 

Example links to get you around the idea:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Nvidia-1080-GDDR5-PCI/dp/B01J66BMXC/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613593&sr=1-1&keywords=gtx+1080 £507

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-8-Core-Wraith-Cooler/dp/B07B428M7F/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613641&sr=1-1&keywords=2700x £321 (can get it for less)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/x470-f-X470-AM4-ATX-Motherboard-Motherboards-3466-MHz/dp/B07C6N867G/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613673&sr=1-3&keywords=X470 £190

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-Modular-Power-Supply-210-GQ-0650-V3/dp/B017ROH8A6/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613690&sr=1-2&keywords=650W+psu £80

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK16GX4M2B3000C15-Vengeance-3000MHz-Performance/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613721&sr=1-2&keywords=ram £180

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CW-9060032-WW-Radiator-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B077G3C6HH/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613738&sr=1-1&keywords=h115i £125

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blue-Desktop-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B013QFRS2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613754&sr=1-4&keywords=tb+hdd £54

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-PLUS-Sata-2-5-inch-Internal/dp/B01F9G43WU/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524613780&sr=1-4&keywords=240gb+ssd £50

Case - £50

Fans - £20

TOTAL: £1577

If you get slower ram and less of it, it will be around £1480, If you also decide to pick different cooler that could be £1430 if it's H55 or something, B450 motherboard is another £50 off or so so that's £1380, and cheaper used GPU about £50 less makes it £1330.

Thanks for the advice but thats honestly a bit too much. I've gone with this for now, might change it later though. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/c00lFD/saved/d7PZ8d

[TheNaitsyrk]

3 minutes ago, c00lFD said:

Thanks for the advice but thats honestly a bit too much. I've gone with this for now, might change it later though. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/c00lFD/saved/d7PZ8d

I wouldn't get a bronze power supply. I put 980 TI into mine once I was building for someone and PSU started making noises.

Also, why buy new GPU when you can get it used for less? They'll do same things. Warranty didn't run out for sure. And 1080 will be better. Otherwise it's fine.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01GATSH9U/ref=sr_1_9_olp?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1524614288&sr=1-9&keywords=1080

[dizmo]

If you're streaming, get the Ryzen chip unless you want to mess around with a lot of settings.

It absolutely rocks the 8600k in terms of performance in that use case.

 

Other than that, I suggest getting an EVGA 1070Ti. They're cheaper, and their warranty support is vastly superior. Not only that, if the 1170 turns out to be a lot better, you can just upgrade to it with their upgrade program.

 

2 hours ago, JDE said:

8600K > 2600X most of the time, but only slightly

 

However the 2600X mobos and chip itself are cheaper

Only if you're playing by yourself. When you start streaming the 8600 has a real hard time keeping up.

2 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

I wouldn't get a bronze power supply. I put 980 TI into mine once I was building for someone and PSU started making noises.

Also, why buy new GPU when you can get it used for less? They'll do same things. Warranty didn't run out for sure. And 1080 will be better. Otherwise it's fine.

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01GATSH9U/ref=sr_1_9_olp?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1524614288&sr=1-9&keywords=1080

Efficiency ratings have little to do with actual performance of a PSU. You can get Bronze units that are vastly superior to Gold.

However, you're right in trying to sway him from this unit. I'd grab a CX550M for just a little more, it's much better.