Prebuilts with both an APU and Graphics Card

[JustABox]

I have seen many prebuilts that have an APU as their CPU, but also have a dedicated graphics cards. For example, this dell computer has an A10-9700 AND an RX560. What is the point of this. Back in 2016, I made the mistake of buying an HP prebuilt that boasted an A12-9800 CPU, an R7 450 dedicated graphics card, and 16GB of DDR4 ram. This computer wouldn't display anything to the monitor unless it was plugged into the graphics card. In 2017 I realized that I had an APU and a graphics card, so I took out the R7 450 that was in there and was able to run that computer off of the motherboard's output. Are they running in crossfire?? I didn't see anything that would hint that. Why would Dell, HP, and so on do this? Are they just stupid?? I would expect them to know more than I do...

[LienusLateTips]

Of course they are they pair i7 6700s with GTX 745

[Drak3]

AMD's Bulldozer based APUs are extremely cheap, and basically replaced low end Bulldozer CPUs.

[JustABox]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Of course they are they pair i7 6700s with GTX 745

Thats marketing. Most uneducated buyers belive that higher GHZ and core count means faster, and on top of that, a GRAPHICS CARD. 

[JustABox]

But a bigger question is, why would they include a graphics card if the APU can provide. In my case, the APU was almost just as powerful as the dedicated graphics card, and all it was effectively doing was making the computer hotter, and raising the price

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, JustABox said:

Thats marketing. Most uneducated buyers belive that higher GHZ and core count means faster, and on top of that, a GRAPHICS CARD. 

Not just any GPU, only NVIDIA GPUs

 

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, JustABox said:

But a bigger question is, why would they include a graphics card if the APU can provide. In my case, the APU was almost just as powerful as the dedicated graphics card, and all it was effectively doing was making the computer hotter, and raising the price

Because people want it

[JustABox]

Just now, JDE said:

Not just any GPU, only NVIDIA GPUs

 

yeah, OEMS are confusing. I am curious if anybody knows why

[r2724r16]

I think apus don't leave much of an upgrade path while dedicated graphics does. You can have a graphics card on top of your APU but then you just wasted money on the APU, while dedicated graphics cards could be sold again. 

Though I do agree that OEMs should start making systems built for 1080p 60fps gaming with apus, I guess OEMs just don't like AMD (but they should).

[JustABox]

2 minutes ago, Rasbir Singh said:

I think apus don't leave much of an upgrade path while dedicated graphics does. You can have a graphics card on top of your APU but then you just wasted money on the APU, while dedicated graphics cards could be sold again. 

Though I do agree that OEMs should start making systems built for 1080p 60fps gaming with apus, I guess OEMs just don't like AMD (but they should).

but what causes the OEMs to choose to put a graphics card on top of an APU rather than using a more powerful APU or just not using an APU at all?

[Mira Yurizaki]

1 minute ago, JustABox said:

but what causes the OEMs to choose to put a graphics card on top of an APU rather than using a more powerful APU or just not using an APU at all?

They had a bunch of parts they need to get rid of, so they build Frankencomputers.

[Electronics Wizardy]

18 minutes ago, JustABox said:

But a bigger question is, why would they include a graphics card if the APU can provide. In my case, the APU was almost just as powerful as the dedicated graphics card, and all it was effectively doing was making the computer hotter, and raising the price

why do  companies make system with the 8700k and the gtx 1080. You have an apu and a dgpu.

 

My guess is to keep the sku's lower and amd was charing the same. It also makes the gpu a simple upgrade, just slot in the gpu, no reason to touch the cpu.