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FIxing GPUs and ASICs?

BuckGup
By BuckGup
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How logical or possible is it to fix SMDs on GPUs, laptops, and ASIC miners at home? Say someone lists a GPU on eBay as not working doesn't power on. Assuming the GPU itself isn't dead or water damage how hard is it to fix? Are failures usually easily spotted like a blown capacitor or burn marks? Thanks

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its 50/50 short damage or heat damage

heat is easy to fix but the GPU may never be stable again, nor does the fix work all the time (baking it in the oven for reflowing)

short damage is extremely hard to find if its something small, fixing it can be easy or super difficult depending on what component failed, and if its something like the gpu die then its just not worth trying to fix it

 

dont buy broken GPU's basically

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How easy or hard it is to spot something on the card depends on how the card failed. And some components don't simply blow out. I've killed a few components without it catastrophically failing.

I have a blog! And a list of guides I've posted

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19 minutes ago, Pangea2017 said:

1. do you have schematics or know how to find them?

2. need a lot of time to get into this topic

3. it is gambling, you don't know if you can win: GPU die, memory, powerstages and so on can be difficult to get as they can have non standard part number or nowhere to buy. China will be fakes or old parts.

4. try it first on a cheap old gpu

 

Don't do this unless you want a new hobby.

 

14 minutes ago, M.Yurizaki said:

How easy or hard it is to spot something on the card depends on how the card failed. And some components don't simply blow out. I've killed a few components without it catastrophically failing.

So you are saying it's not worth it to invest time and money into?

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Just now, BuckGup said:

So you are saying it's not worth it to invest time and money into?

If you don't have years of electronics troubleshooting and repairing under your belt? Yes, it's not worth your time.

I have a blog! And a list of guides I've posted

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if the failure is easy to spot, and you have the necessary schematics and parts to fix it.. its very easy.

 

the issue is spotting the failure (which is a skill), parts to fix it (which is hard), and schematics (good luck on the vague sides of the internet).

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1 hour ago, Pangea2017 said:

Don't do this unless you want a new hobby.

So much this ^^^

42 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

So you are saying it's not worth it to invest time and money into?


The question that needs to be asked here: Are you doing this to have a new hobby, or are you doing this to try to make money?

ENCRYPTION IS NOT A CRIME

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8 hours ago, BuckGup said:

How logical or possible is it to fix SMDs on GPUs, laptops, and ASIC miners at home? Say someone lists a GPU on eBay as not working doesn't power on. Assuming the GPU itself isn't dead or water damage how hard is it to fix? Are failures usually easily spotted like a blown capacitor or burn marks? Thanks

A modern video card is highly integrated, basically it's just the GPU chip, memory chips and switching voltage regulators for the power. The GPU and memory are ball grid array, so hard to rework without expensive special equipment, if you can even source the chips you need.

 

The switching voltage regulator, were it to fail, would in most cases blow all the chips on the card, making it a write-off.

 

I think finding a videocard with only 1 easily replaceable, discrete component defective would be very rare.

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The question that needs to be asked here: Are you doing this to have a new hobby, or are you doing this to try to make money?

Both actually

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2 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Both actually

Let me be just very clear about this:

In the general case of hobby repairs one can expect to sometimes offset the cost of the hobby by selling some items. However, one must always expect that the net cost of engaging in the hobby will be negative, usually a large negative number.

Regarding GPUs in particular, the most common failure mode is going to be die failure of one or more of the ICs. For some reason, I can't seem to find any of the chips available for sale as ICs. This actually quite bothers me, it makes it impossible for makers to integrate their chips into their own circuits. You can sometimes by some old ones on ebay, who knows if those work or not.

ENCRYPTION IS NOT A CRIME

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