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I've upgraded the internet... only mine, not all of it. Can my PC cope with streaming at 1080p 60 or 30fps? Or am I better off just recording and uploading?

 

Specs are: i5 3470S

10GB DDR3

SSDs and HDD

EVGA Nvidia 1050ti 4GB

 

I'm assuming my CPU and GPU just is not beefy enough for the compression? While of cause I can record lossless/low performance and convert/scale later using full CPU power.

 

But others might have experience with a similar setup? Using Twitch, OBS... and may try Gefore Experience streaming.

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Your CPU is not quiet beefy enough i guess

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Not at 1080p60. 

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You can use nvec, which is the encoder from the GPU, that would be the only way. You would be best trying at 720/60 first before going up to 1080. 

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The way you can do it is use NVENC in OBS. The quality you get for the bitrate you use is lower, but it completely takes the compression load off your cpu and puts it on your gpu, and it doesn't interfere with gaming really. Uses same thing shadowplay does. Your GPU has some dedicated video encoding thingie. I used to stream using a dedicated capture PC, but often I used a laptop and a usb card and did some additional compression on the laptop using this (portable). Worked very well as far as getting a nice stutter free stream. 

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Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

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Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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not going to be any good for CPU compression and whatever seeing as thats a low power chip but as others have said, you can use NVEC in OBS and it should be fine

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21 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

I've upgraded the internet... only mine, not all of it. Can my PC cope with streaming at 1080p 60 or 30fps? Or am I better off just recording and uploading?

 

Specs are: i5 3470S

10GB DDR3

SSDs and HDD

EVGA Nvidia 1050ti 4GB

 

I'm assuming my CPU and GPU just is not beefy enough for the compression? While of cause I can record lossless/low performance and convert/scale later using full CPU power.

 

But others might have experience with a similar setup? Using Twitch, OBS... and may try Gefore Experience streaming.

honestly no I got a i7-2600 and I struggle at 720p 60 with a gtx 1060 so maby 720 depending on your internet the gpu nvec thing can do 720 60 though try it out you might have to lower settings.

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1 minute ago, Justin2Justin14 said:

honestly no I got a i7-2600 and I struggle at 720p 60 with a gtx 1060 so maby 720 depending on your internet the gpu nvec thing can do 720 60 though try it out you might have to lower settings.

I can stream 108060 on a sandy i7 laptop using cpu encoding just fine, and have done so, though as a dedicated device.

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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36 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Not at 1080p60. 

Yeah I was overly optimistic trying 60fps! I'm getting smooth play in gameplay and upload at 1080p30fps. Lower quality thought. :( Strange the GPU streaming works flawlessly, but even on high settings is not great quality.

 

A standalone streaming box would have no trouble, but for now I have just the 1. Only Rocket League is going to be FPS/GPU/CPU intensive as such. KSP will be CPU intensive, but I should be able to do recording only or GPU encoding for that.

 

Thanks. :)

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3 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

I can stream 108060 on a sandy i7 laptop using cpu encoding just fine, and have done so, though as a dedicated device.

im using gaming for mine aswell it kills my fps

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39 minutes ago, Justin2Justin14 said:

im using gaming for mine aswell it kills my fps

well, yah. Gotta gpu encode if you don't want that.

muh specs 

Gaming and HTPC (reparations)- ASUS 1080, MSI X99A SLI Plus, 5820k- 4.5GHz @ 1.25v, asetek based 360mm AIO, RM 1000x, 16GB memory, 750D with front USB 2.0 replaced with 3.0  ports, 2 250GB 850 EVOs in Raid 0 (why not, only has games on it), some hard drives

Screens- Acer preditor XB241H (1080p, 144Hz Gsync), LG 1080p ultrawide, (all mounted) directly wired to TV in other room

Stuff- k70 with reds, steel series rival, g13, full desk covering mouse mat

All parts black

Workstation(desk)- 3770k, 970 reference, 16GB of some crucial memory, a motherboard of some kind I don't remember, Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, CM Storm Trooper (It's got a handle, can you handle that?), 240mm Asetek based AIO, Crucial M550 256GB (upgrade soon), some hard drives, disc drives, and hot swap bays

Screens- 3  ASUS VN248H-P IPS 1080p screens mounted on a stand, some old tv on the wall above it. 

Stuff- Epicgear defiant (solderless swappable switches), g600, moutned mic and other stuff. 

Laptop docking area- 2 1440p korean monitors mounted, one AHVA matte, one samsung PLS gloss (very annoying, yes). Trashy Razer blackwidow chroma...I mean like the J key doesn't click anymore. I got a model M i use on it to, but its time for a new keyboard. Some edgy Utechsmart mouse similar to g600. Hooked to laptop dock for both of my dell precision laptops. (not only docking area)

Shelf- i7-2600 non-k (has vt-d), 380t, some ASUS sandy itx board, intel quad nic. Currently hosts shared files, setting up as pfsense box in VM. Also acts as spare gaming PC with a 580 or whatever someone brings. Hooked into laptop dock area via usb switch

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Using the GPU seems to be working. I can do 720p nicely. Seems removing a couple of little things, 2pass encoding, 30fps (60 in game), and high quality/bitrate seems to give a nice video with little to no bad artifacting (just quality/blur which is watchable).

 

Took a while to figure it out. Only problem it the game I'm trying, Rocket League, gets a bit of lag from it. I cannot figure out if this is GPU/CPU/network. As I'm not using all my network bandwidth, it might be latency? But not sure how to get it to show in game, as it's only happening on kickoff... so something about that is different in the game, and it does not like me streaming.

 

I guess I can try low bitrate and see if the in game lag goes... or see if my router can do network priority/latency splitting?

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I have a i7 2600 and the max I can stream at to twitch is 700P at 60fps, which is also the max i can record at

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