Streaming CPU Needed

[OnionRings]

I would prefer an answer from a streamer particularly somebody who has streamed with both but any streamer is fine and I'll even take an answer from a non streamer as long as it's a wise and education filled answer.

 

My question is ryzen or Intel For streaming? Comparably the 1800x on AMD side and 7700k and 8700k on Intel's side. I know ryzen wins in cores but Intel wins in IPC but what's best? And I don't care too much about price to performance I want the best. I know that ryzen will have the best in that regard being you can get the 1800x and a good cooler for like 600.

 

I want to be able to do 1080p60 streams AND game at 1080p60 max settings in game (not with current gpu) with no issues. 

Edited February 19, 2018 by OnionRings
Because auto correct sucks

[Canada EH]

Ryzen 1800X is what you need or even THREADRIPPER

[TheNaitsyrk]

4 minutes ago, OnionRings said:

I would prefer an answer from a streamer particularly somebody who has streamed with both but any streamer is fine and I'll even take an answer from a non streamer as long as it's a wise and education filled answer.

 

My question is ryzen or Intel For streaming? Comparably the 1800x on AMD side and 7700k and 8700k on Intel's side. I know ryzen wins in cores but Intel wins in IPC but what's best? And I don't care too much about price to performance I want the best. I know that ryzen will have the best in that regard being you can get the 1800x and a good cooler for like 600.

 

I want to be able to do 1080p60 streams AND game at 1080p60 max settings in game (not with current gpu) with no issues. 

Ryzen for streaming for sure. 1700 is the way to go, OC it to 4.0Ghz and you'll have a nice clear stream. I tried it on my 1700 and it was really good. YT or Twitch were both excellent with my 1800X at 4.0.

[OnionRings]

2 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Ryzen for streaming for sure. 1700 is the way to go, OC it to 4.0Ghz and you'll have a nice clear stream. I tried it on my 1700 and it was really good. YT or Twitch were both excellent with my 1800X at 4.0.

How much faster is the 1800x over the 1700? Is it not worth it? I know all ryzen can be OC'D but is the 1800x a good choice? And what about on Intel's side is the i7 I think what's it called the 8920x or something like that? The 8 core one. Not worth it? It's only like 100 bucks more. With Intel's higher ipc would it be worth it?

[TheNaitsyrk]

1 minute ago, OnionRings said:

How much faster is the 1800x over the 1700? Is it not worth it? I know all ryzen can be OC'D but is the 1800x a good choice? And what about on Intel's side is the i7 I think what's it called the 8920x or something like that? The 8 core one. Not worth it? It's only like 100 bucks more. With Intel's higher ipc would it be worth it?

They're the same.

7820X is double the price for minimal gains, and streaming will be the same on both.

[GloriousPain]

If you have the money for the i7 8700k I'd say that, otherwise I'd suggest Ryzen the r7 1700 or 1600 are each really great bang for the buck and solid streaming performance.

[OnionRings]

Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

They're the same.

The only difference is the 1800x can be oc'd further? And its the 7820x im thinking of. here and my 2 part lists.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TdV9TB intel

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmM7YT amd

[OnionRings]

Oh wow so I just noticed the 1800x is only 350 now? Is that a sale or not? I'll look at outletPC and see. If that's its new price and not just a sale thats a good price, it MSRPs for 500.

 

Edit : Wow yup http://prntscr.com/igo7xp looks like multiple sites have it marked down, thats pretty nice and much more enticing.

[TheNaitsyrk]

4 hours ago, OnionRings said:

The only difference is the 1800x can be oc'd further? And its the 7820x im thinking of. here and my 2 part lists.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TdV9TB intel

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmM7YT amd

1800X max is basically 4.0Ghz, 1750 multi score and about 165 single score.

It's cheaper and will do the job just fine.

 

Also, motherboards don't have to be exchanged. All you have to do is to buy a new CPU at a later date when one comes out. With Intel you have to buy new motherboard also. Zen 2 is around the corner.

[OnionRings]

14 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

1800X max is basically 4.0Ghz, 1750 multi score and about 165 single score.

It's cheaper and will do the job just fine.

 

Also, motherboards don't have to be exchanged. All you have to do is to buy a new CPU at a later date when one comes out. With Intel you have to buy new motherboard also. Zen 2 is around the corner.

Alright, I'll go with ryzen. The price is too good to pass up.

[TheNaitsyrk]

8 hours ago, OnionRings said:

Alright, I'll go with ryzen. The price is too good to pass up.

You won't regret it. Streaming is a pleasure with 1700 - 1800x.

[Emberstone]

1 hour ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

You won't regret it. Streaming is a pleasure with 1700 - 1800x.

Even on my 1600X (I had it overclocked to 4.0 GHz), you could easily stream at the Twitch bitrate cap and game at 60+ fps no problem, and still not be at 100% usage in most scenarios.

 

While Ryzen's gaming performance isn't exactly where Coffee Lake's is, its multithreaded value is still absolutely unmatched. Getting 1350 points in Cinebench R15 isn't happening on Intel's side for $180.

 

While I'm on an 8700K now, I'm still going to hold onto my Asus Prime B350-Plus. When AM4's final iteration releases in 2019 or 2020, who knows where the platform will be at that point. Might be able to get an upgrade and still use a board I already own.

[iiNNeX]

An i7 8700 will stream just fine and outperform every Ryzen CPU in gaming performance. You don't even have to have the K series processor to be faster. The motherboards are more expensive though compared to AMD.

[AngryBeaver]

A few things to know about going ryzen. The chipset is much more reliant on having good 3000+ ddr4 memory to really take advantage of the infinity fabric.

 

The next issue is ryzen hits a pretty big OC ceiling at 4ghz.. it is possible to go past it, but you need lots of cooling and voltage to get there.

 

The Ryzen chips do have much worse IPC and I personally would prefer a 8700k with 6c 12t over the ryzen 8c 16t. That is because the 8700k has such a massive ST performance boost.. enough so that a 8700k almosts scores higher at stock than a 1800x on multi-thread. If you overclock it and push up those clocks then all of a sudden it pulls ahead. 

 

On top of that the 8700k does a much better job at trans-coding than the 1800x as well as push higher frames.I feel for streaming you would see higher streams and better streaming performance from the 8700k.