I'm not getting it to 4.6GHz....

[TheLaserCucumber]

Hey folks,

 

I'm running my i7 6700K at 4.5GHz at 1.325V, pretty stable.

But I'm not, for the life of it, getting it to 4.6GHz.

It won't even do a prime95 testrun without any errors at friggin 1.4V!!!!

 

I also can't get my memory over 2666 at CL15 (rated at 2400 CL16, but saw multiple posts already that claimed this kit can get to 2933, Crucial Ballistix Sport)

It can't be that I've only got duds here.

Any tip? please?

Thanks

[Sack]

Silicon lottery man, it can harsh.

[Mick Naughty]

Buy another one.

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Buy another one.

and send me the old one... 

[Coaxialgamer]

Chips usually hit a hard wall , where you can't increase frequency not matter the voltage. You found yours.

[Mick Naughty]

Could get a higher tier board too. 

[TheLaserCucumber]

4 hours ago, Coaxialgamer said:

Chips usually hit a hard wall , where you can't increase frequency not matter the voltage. You found yours.

Ya I know, but it can't possibly be this low...

 

4 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

Could get a higher tier board too. 

The Gaming K6 is quite alright, got it as a replacement for my Z170 Gaming i7 that had strange USB3 problems, I think almost a year ago.

[Coaxialgamer]

IMO , that's fairly standard ( albeit slightly lower than average ) clocks for an OC 6700k. They never did reach the same clocks the 7700k did . 4.6ghz is typically what you get out of skylake.

[Mick Naughty]

Just now, TheLaserCucumber said:

The Gaming K6 is quite alright, got it as a replacement for my Z170 Gaming i7 that had strange USB3 problems, I think almost a year ago.

Even if it is ok, boards can hold back cpu's. Not saying thats the issue at hand though but a possibility.  Going off the prices its low to mid.

[TheLaserCucumber]

Just now, Mick Naughty said:

Even if it is ok, boards can hold back cpu's. Not saying thats the issue at hand though but a possibility.  Going off the prices its low to mid.

It was over 200€ when I got it, now it's at 185€. Wouldn't call it low end, I think mid range suits it pretty well.

 

2 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

IMO , that's fairly standard ( albeit slightly lower than average ) clocks for an OC 6700k. They never did reach the same clocks the 7700k did . 4.6ghz is typically what you get out of skylake.

Only? Ok, I sadly haven't really researched average Skylake OC clocks, but I was thinking that it shouldn't be this far away from Kabylake.

[Coaxialgamer]

2 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Even if it is ok, boards can hold back cpu's. Not saying thats the issue at hand though but a possibility.  Going off the prices its low to mid.

boards holding cpus back ins't really a thing anymore. Cpus don't require nearly as much power as they used to , so getting stable voltage is much easier for lower end boards.

[Mick Naughty]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

boards holding cpus back ins't really a thing anymore. Cpus don't require nearly as much power as they used to , so getting stable voltage is much easier for lower end boards.

Wouldnt know really. Never bought a low end board as I was concerned with that when I actually stayed relevant with hardware.

Guess Ill keep that in mind when I make a new rig. Going cheap on a board will cover ram price increase.

[DarkSmith2]

2 hours ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

Hey folks,

 

I'm running my i7 6700K at 4.5GHz at 1.325V, pretty stable.

But I'm not, for the life of it, getting it to 4.6GHz.

It won't even do a prime95 testrun without any errors at friggin 1.4V!!!!

 

I also can't get my memory over 2666 at CL15 (rated at 2400 CL16, but saw multiple posts already that claimed this kit can get to 2933, Crucial Ballistix Sport)

It can't be that I've only got duds here.

Any tip? please?

Thanks

is it delidded? cooler?

[xg32]

4 hours ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

Hey folks,

 

I'm running my i7 6700K at 4.5GHz at 1.325V, pretty stable.

But I'm not, for the life of it, getting it to 4.6GHz.

It won't even do a prime95 testrun without any errors at friggin 1.4V!!!!

 

I also can't get my memory over 2666 at CL15 (rated at 2400 CL16, but saw multiple posts already that claimed this kit can get to 2933, Crucial Ballistix Sport)

It can't be that I've only got duds here.

Any tip? please?

Thanks

if you can return and exchange it, do it.

[Ωhmbreon]

I'm afraid you lost the silicon lottery. There isn't really much you could do unless you get a different one.

 

Make sure your temps are okay. I had to delid my 7700K to overclock, but I think that issue is the worst on the 7th gen CPUs.

[TheLaserCucumber]

9 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

is it delidded? cooler?

No it’s not delidded, haven’t gotten myself to do it, to afraid to break something.

 

A Hyper 212X, tried it with max. fan speed, temps are okay.

7 hours ago, xg32 said:

if you can return and exchange it, do it.

You can’t easily exchange it in Germany, only if it breaks, without you doing anything to break it.

[DarkSmith2]

2 hours ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

No it’s not delidded, haven’t gotten myself to do it, to afraid to break something.

 

A Hyper 212X, tried it with max. fan speed, temps are okay.

Ok, but you are aware that temperatures and overclocking are going hand in hand? I mean chances are pretty low that 4,6GhZ is the highest your chip can do, you are just using an inadequate cooling solution. (even if the temps dont scratch TJmax)

 

http://edgeup.asus.com/2017/kaby-lake-overclocking-guide/

I know this is for Kabylake but doesnt change the principal of thermal influence in overclocking. It has always the same behavior this is how semiconductors work.

[TheLaserCucumber]

Just now, DarkSmith2 said:

Ok, but you are aware that temperatures and overclocking are going hand in hand? I mean chances are pretty low that 4,6GhZ is the highest your chip can do, you are just using an inadequate cooling solution. (even if the temps dont scratch TJmax)

Ya I know, on 4.5 max fan it doesn‘t even hit 60C, so I don‘t really think that this is the problem.

[DarkSmith2]

2 minutes ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

Ya I know, on 4.5 max fan it doesn‘t even hit 60C, so I don‘t really think that this is the problem.

Ok, so what happens if you put it on 4,7GHz? Are you unable to make it through a stresstest or doesnt the pc start from begin with?

[TheLaserCucumber]

4 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

Ok, so what happens if you put it on 4,7GHz? Are you unable to make it through a stresstest or doesnt the pc start from begin with?

I don't know, haven't tried it.

On 4.6 it boots, but the second you start the prime95 stress test, it crashes and reboots.

[DarkSmith2]

1 minute ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

I don't know, haven't tried it.

On 4.6 it boots, but the second you start the prime95 stress test, it crashes and reboots.

So find out why it crashed. Here is a tool to read your bluescreenlog

http://www.chip.de/downloads/BlueScreenView_37830608.html

 

Even if it havnt shown a bluescreen its possible that he logged some. Would be interesting to get the errorcode.

[TheLaserCucumber]

3 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

So find out why it crashed. Here is a tool to read your bluescreenlog

http://www.chip.de/downloads/BlueScreenView_37830608.html

 

Even if it havnt shown a bluescreen its possible that he logged some. Would be interesting to get the errorcode.

Will try when I'm back home. It crashes without a bluescreen.

[TheLaserCucumber]

4 hours ago, DarkSmith2 said:

So find out why it crashed. Here is a tool to read your bluescreenlog

http://www.chip.de/downloads/BlueScreenView_37830608.html

 

Even if it havnt shown a bluescreen its possible that he logged some. Would be interesting to get the errorcode.

It found the minidump files of yesterday. Even though there was no Bluescreen, the first one says "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" and the second one "BAD_POOL_CALLER".

 

The third one from right now has no Bug Check String, but the code is 0x00000101, caused by driver ntoskrnl.exe.

[DarkSmith2]

1 hour ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

It found the minidump files of yesterday. Even though there was no Bluescreen, the first one says "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" and the second one "BAD_POOL_CALLER".

 

The third one from right now has no Bug Check String, but the code is 0x00000101, caused by driver ntoskrnl.exe.

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL -> is usually a driver error

BAD_POOL_CALLER -> is a hint that your windows installation is damaged (but can also be caused by unstable OC)

0x00000101 -> usually caused by not enough vcore.

 

[TheLaserCucumber]

40 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

0x00000101 -> usually caused by not enough vcore.

ok, then I know it won't do 4.6 at 1.4V ever...

41 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

BAD_POOL_CALLER -> is a hint that your windows installation is damaged (but can also be caused by unstable OC)

Unstable OC would be more likely, installed it new like 2 months ago.

 

42 minutes ago, DarkSmith2 said:

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL -> is usually a driver error

lol, dunno which one it could be