First Budget Build

[Alexander H]

To all my last posts I would like to thank everybody for helping me! I have built my final first build list. And I'm going to wait 'till prices go down. Tell me what you think and if it needs work please put a modified list in your reply. Thanks. I also want to game at 1080p at 60fps.

 

Link here: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/AlexanderH/saved/#view=wjHZ8d

[Fokus]

3 minutes ago, Alexander H said:

To all my last posts I would like to thank everybody for helping me! I have built my final first build list. And I'm going to wait 'till prices go down. Tell me what you think and if it needs work please put a modified list in your reply. Thanks. I also want to game at 1080p at 60fps.

 

Link here: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/AlexanderH/saved/#view=wjHZ8d

Naw man, this build list looks pretty good congratulations welcome to the PC Master Race. I do have one suggestion for your os don't spend $89 bucks on the os buy it for $30 here: https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/. And spend the rest of that money on an SSD if you want.  SSD really speeds up your system.

[Alexander H]

Just now, coyotetracker said:

Naw man, this build list looks pretty good congratulations welcome to the PC Master Race. I do have one suggestion for your os don't spend $89 bucks on the os buy it for $30 here: https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/. And spend the rest of that money on an SSD if you want.  SSD really speeds up your system.

Is it possible for me to get this build under $600 when gpu and ram prices go down? Also get stuff on sale?

[Fokus]

1 minute ago, Alexander H said:

Is it possible for me to get this build under $600 when gpu and ram prices go down? Also get stuff on sale?

Yes, you should be able to get it for about $600 or under. Back in the day when prices were normal, you could build great systems for under 600 all the time.

[Herman Mcpootis]

spend less on mobo, cooler and case and use the money on a better CPU and ssd instead.

[Alexander H]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

spend less on mobo, cooler and case and use the money on a better CPU and ssd instead.

I only want to do 1080p at 60fps. The i3 is better than the i5 4460 and that's more than enough for me.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($165.75 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: gtx 980ti extreme gaming ($450.00)
Total: $1162.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-04 17:41 EST-0500

get os from reddit for $25.

[Alexander H]

Can someone try and make a list for me that includes these 2 parts? Made one myself and it was over $1200 :p. I can deal with it being $650 max though. Thanks in advanced.

[Herman Mcpootis]

7 minutes ago, Alexander H said:

I only want to do 1080p at 60fps. The i3 is better than the i5 4460 and that's more than enough for me.

it's only slightly better, they have the same core count just with slightly improved IPC, but if you already have a haswell i5 you're better off upgrading that to a 4770/123x v3 and spending the money on the GPUs than getting an i3 8100.

[Alexander H]

3 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($197.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($73.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($165.75 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.89 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Other: gtx 980ti extreme gaming ($450.00)
Total: $1162.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-04 17:41 EST-0500

get os from reddit for $25.

Way out of my budget. Looking for $600 to $650.

[Alexander H]

1 minute ago, herman mcpootis said:

it's only slightly better, they have the same core count just with slightly improved IPC, but if you already have a haswell i5 you're better off upgrading that to a 4770/123x v3 and spending the money on the GPUs than getting an i3 8100.

First ever build. Only 14 and hard to earn money. Looking to run most games at 1080p and 60 fps. Specifically Need for Speed: Payback at medium to high settings.

[Zeta_Demon]

a better card for that cpu would be a 1050ti

[LienusLateTips]

Won't happen, the GTX 1060 3GB is $500 alone.

 

Wait till shortage is over or buy used.

[Alexander H]

1 minute ago, Zeta_Demon said:

a better card for that cpu would be a 1050ti

How come? I always thought the G4560 is a better fit and for a $50 difference without mining price inflation is 30 frames better in NFS Payback.

[Lurick]

Not possible unfortunately

8100 - $120

Mobo - $106

RAM - $90

That's already over $300 and the cheapest 1060 3GB on the market right now is going to run you another $350, at least for a while still.

So unless you can get a PSU, Case, and Hard Drive for free. You're looking at around $750 minimum. Even a Ryzen system is only going to shave about $50 off.

[Zeta_Demon]

Just now, Alexander H said:

How come? I always thought the G4560 is a better fit and for a $50 difference without mining price inflation is 30 frames better in NFS Payback.

well system balancing, itd really kill your performance, what do you want this sytem to be used for?

[Zeta_Demon]

have a look at this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2k2gTH

[seon123]

8 minutes ago, Alexander H said:

Way out of my budget. Looking for $600 to $650.

Then why's your build $1200? Even with "normal" pricing, that'll knock off maybe $300 ($250 from GPU, $50 from RAM). And why go for the weakest Coffee CPU, a crappy AiO, a high end motherboard, slow RAM, no SSD, and an overkill wattage PSU? With a $600 build last summer/fall, you would be looking at something like a 1060 6GB or RX 580 with a Ryzen 1200~1600.

There's no telling when pricing will come back to normal, that'll probably take quite a while. And the build will be outdated by then. Ask again when the pricing actually comes back to normal. 

 

And please stop making constant posts about the build, which won't happen for the foreseeable future anyway...

[aezakmi]

3 things:

You don't need watercooling for the 8100, it's a low TDP chip and you can't overclock it, plus, that H60 performs worse than air coolers sometimes so you're just wasting your money there, the CPU comes with the stock Intel fan that is more than enough for it.

$450 for a 3GB 1060 is crazy but there's basically nothing you can do about it, blame the miners.

There are cheaper boards that will be enough. *A gaming board with wifi well now that's funny*

[Zeta_Demon]

12 minutes ago, Alexander H said:

How come? I always thought the G4560 is a better fit and for a $50 difference without mining price inflation is 30 frames better in NFS Payback.

the 1050ti is a very capable car if youre playing at 1080p, itll handel pretty much anygame at 6o fps , just adject your graphics settings, if you want a 1060 you want to either go for a 8350k or a 8400

[Herman Mcpootis]

18 minutes ago, Alexander H said:

Way out of my budget. Looking for $600 to $650.

no way in hell is that build gonna drop down to $600 after the crypto mining craze is over. all the more reason why you should be upgrading the i5 you already have and get an i7/Xeon inatead of a new build.

[LienusLateTips]

20 minutes ago, Zeta_Demon said:

well system balancing, itd really kill your performance, what do you want this sytem to be used for?

8100 doesn't bottleneck a GTX 1060 6GB, what are you talking about

7 minutes ago, Zeta_Demon said:

the 1050ti is a very capable car if youre playing at 1080p, itll handel pretty much anygame at 6o fps , just adject your graphics settings, if you want a 1060 you want to either go for a 8350k or a 8400

No you don't. Stop spreading false facts.

[LienusLateTips]

19 minutes ago, Zeta_Demon said:

have a look at this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2k2gTH

Can you not spend $2 more on a much better WD Blue or SeaGate Barracuda?

[Alexander H]

12 minutes ago, Zeta_Demon said:

the 1050ti is a very capable car if youre playing at 1080p, itll handel pretty much anygame at 6o fps , just adject your graphics settings, if you want a 1060 you want to either go for a 8350k or a 8400

I've always wanted a card that was equal or just a teeny bit better than a 970

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Alexander H said:

I've always wanted a card that was equal or just a teeny bit better than a 970

Used market GTX 980