GTX 1070ti low usage

[ShanB123]

Got a GTX 1070ti from Gigabyte (dual fan variant) about a month ago for boxing day. GPU usage in GTA V and games like TF2 never reach max usage and there's not a temperature problem as even at 1440p scaled to 1080p using Nvidia settings, but the same applies when I play in 1080p in gta v, I find the gpu temps in the 60s and sometimes even the 50s with fps in the 30s-50s, and the usage is still low. In GTA V I've noticed that going into grassy areas like in hills the GPU usage will go up to the 80s or 90s with higher fps over 60 fps. The usage will also max out if I put the resolution to 4K, and if I turn MSAA up to 4x or 8x the usage goes up as well. Can anyone help me here? (The CPU usage is also relatively low, with it being in the 50s to 60s overall in GTA V, no thermal problems either)

 

System Specs

CPU: Ryzen 5 1500x stock (however when I OC'd to 3.8 ghz there was not much of a difference)

RAM: G-Skill 8gb 3000mhz

GPU: Gigabyte GTX 1070ti

HDD: WD Black 1TB 7200rpm

Mobo: MSI B350m Gaming Pro (game boost turned off)

PSU: Evga 430w 80+

 

Things I've already tried

- Changing system power settings to performance

- Overclocking CPU (3.8 ghz@1.35v) and RAM (2800mhz voltage set to auto)

- Closing any background applications that might interfere with CPU or GPU usage

 

I feel like the PSU might not be enough for the GPU and CPU, but I want to try anything else I can before spending money on another power supply, especially in Canada where prices are terrible. (The fooken dollar, eh?)

[LienusLateTips]

Can't really help but, - either way, change the PSU, that thing is terrible.

[ShanB123]

30 minutes ago, JDE said:

Can't really help but, - either way, change the PSU, that thing is terrible.

Are there any recommendations you have in the $40-$60 range CAD?

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, ShanB123 said:

Are there any recommendations you have in the $40-$60 range CAD?

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MTZ96RU/?tag=pcp0f-20

If you live near a memoryexpress store, ask them to price patch to Amazon. They will cut 10% off the Amazon price and they have excellent customer service.

 

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX65816

[emosun]

wait what is your problem? that the gpu usage graph isn;t showing 100%?

[ShanB123]

20 minutes ago, emosun said:

wait what is your problem? that the gpu usage graph isn;t showing 100%?

GPU usage isn't maxed out and there are no thermal problems, and CPU usage isn't maxed out with no signs of thermal throttling either

[Spudbilly]

If you can replace the psu do it and revisit this post after with those results. Either way that psu is insufficient 

[ShanB123]

36 minutes ago, JDE said:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01MTZ96RU/?tag=pcp0f-20

If you live near a memoryexpress store, ask them to price patch to Amazon. They will cut 10% off the Amazon price and they have excellent customer service.

 

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX65816

anything from canada computers? I'll bump my budget up to say $80, $90 if necessary to get something local because I can't really buy anything online and there's no memoryexpress near me, I live in the GTA

[emosun]

17 minutes ago, ShanB123 said:

GPU usage isn't maxed out and there are no thermal problems, and CPU usage isn't maxed out with no signs of thermal throttling either

well maybe you should do something with them that maxes them out

 

becuase an xbox 360 with 2004 era hardware in it can play gta 5 , hell even my computer can play gta 5

[ShanB123]

On 1/31/2018 at 8:44 PM, Spudbilly said:

If you can replace the psu do it and revisit this post after with those results. Either way that psu is insufficient 

so I replaced the psu with a corsair cx650m (the new grey one, not the green one) and the same usage problem persists. is there anything else that could possible cause this? I maxed out the power usage plan on windows, and changed the nvidia quality settings to both performance and then set it to quality afterwards, but there is still no change

[pyrojoe34]

What is your RAM usage? Is that maxing out?

 

What is your per thread CPU use? (as in, are any threads at 100%? e.g. 4 core with only 1 core pegged at 100% will say the overall CPU use is at 25% but the CPU is still the issue). This actually might be the key since you get better usage with higher resolutions and in areas that have higher relative GPU demand (grassy areas with less cars/NPCs).

 

What is your drive usage? (not just read/write speeds but actual controller usage which is shown as a %) If you are using a HDD for both the OS and for games you might be bottle-necked when loading assets. (BTW if you are running your OS on a HDD I highly highly recommend you get at least a 120-250GB SSD for your OS. The difference is absolutely massive for general use and it will also lower the load on the HDD so it can just concentrate on loading game assets and not running the OS. Also, if your page file is on the HDD and you're running out of RAM (which is possible with modern games and only 8GB) then your virtual memory will be super slow).

 

Make sure you're not limiting performance with vsync or a software framerate limit (either in games, in control panel, or in GPU programs like Precision X).

[ShanB123]

17 hours ago, pyrojoe34 said:

What is your RAM usage? Is that maxing out?

 

What is your per thread CPU use? (as in, are any threads at 100%? e.g. 4 core with only 1 core pegged at 100% will say the overall CPU use is at 25% but the CPU is still the issue). This actually might be the key since you get better usage with higher resolutions and in areas that have higher relative GPU demand (grassy areas with less cars/NPCs).

 

What is your drive usage? (not just read/write speeds but actual controller usage which is shown as a %) If you are using a HDD for both the OS and for games you might be bottle-necked when loading assets. (BTW if you are running your OS on a HDD I highly highly recommend you get at least a 120-250GB SSD for your OS. The difference is absolutely massive for general use and it will also lower the load on the HDD so it can just concentrate on loading game assets and not running the OS. Also, if your page file is on the HDD and you're running out of RAM (which is possible with modern games and only 8GB) then your virtual memory will be super slow).

 

Make sure you're not limiting performance with vsync or a software framerate limit (either in games, in control panel, or in GPU programs like Precision X).

RAM usage is in the 5000-6000mhz range at any time without any other applications other than MSI Afterburner and some other non-demanding tasks that are running in the background, and the CPU use per thread is above 50% on all cores and threads, the highest single thread use I saw was 87% for a second or so, but I noticed that the framerates were getting slightly better when tinkering with some nvidia settings, and the gpu is being used slightly more at 1440p, which is a step in the right direction I guess

[pyrojoe34]

1 hour ago, ShanB123 said:

RAM usage is in the 5000-6000mhz range at any time without any other applications other than MSI Afterburner and some other non-demanding tasks that are running in the background, and the CPU use per thread is above 50% on all cores and threads, the highest single thread use I saw was 87% for a second or so, but I noticed that the framerates were getting slightly better when tinkering with some nvidia settings, and the gpu is being used slightly more at 1440p, which is a step in the right direction I guess

I mean system ram usage, and not the frequency but the % of total used (unless you mean 5000-6000MB?).

 

Also make sure your GPU drivers are up to date. You can also try a fresh install by downloading directly from NVIDIA, running DDU, then doing a fresh install.

[ShanB123]

7 hours ago, pyrojoe34 said:

I mean system ram usage, and not the frequency but the % of total used (unless you mean 5000-6000MB?).

 

Also make sure your GPU drivers are up to date. You can also try a fresh install by downloading directly from NVIDIA, running DDU, then doing a fresh install.

oh shoot my bad I got mhz and mb mixed up, I meant 5000-6000MB being used. I'll try reinstalling the drivers.