3rd motherboard dead

[Alex93]

I ordered a new motherboard it was working then randomly froze after a reboot it was turning on and off again i took ram out of slot 4 it powered on but no picture on screen now not turning on at all but the graphics card and mouse gets power nothin else 

4 months ago this happen  

 

Original board gigabyte 2nd board asrock 3rd board msi 

  and ever since i have been through 2 boards im sick of this im sick of wasting time and money is there anything i can do only thing i haven't done is upgrade that will cost me other $1000. 

[Nocte]

What PSU do you have? How old is it?

[Epherandes]

I had a similar problem around 3 years ago, where the PC would just shut down out of the blue and reboot. It got worse and worse, to the point, that it wouldn't start anymore.

 

Turns out, that my Thermaltake CPU cooler's backplate shorted the motherboard. The backplate of the cooler was full metal, with a thin layer of foam to prevent the metal plate to make contact with the motherboard. I might've overtighthened it, or it was a design flaw, but there was a contact, and that caused the motherboard to die after some time.

 

You could check the cooler out, otherwise it could be a powersupply problem.

 

Also I would recommend to use the least ammount of hardware to test the issue (remove 3 of the 4 RAM modules, try out different RAM slots with 1 stick, remove the graphics card, disconnect any hard drives/SSD-s, get a cheap powersupply from somewhere)

[pcnoob27]

It is most likely your PSU since 3 mobos being dead is 0%

[PCMasterDebater]

As the others have said, 3 failures point to a bad PSU. Or it's the outlet you are plugged into.

[Princess Luna]

That PSU does look fairly old...

[milanvipa]

Check PSU outlets with ampmeter and see if voltages are right ...only thing that can cause this is PSU ...at least in 99% of the time. Had this issue on old pc. 

Also , what you could do is switch RAM sticks or try just with one stick in all slots ,  if some of them boots then i would recomend you to change RAM ...

Did you check socket pins ? Did you overclocked any of the components ? 

If everything else fails,  try this : Pull out power cable, take out mobo battery , wait 30 seconds , get it back to mobo , get power cable to PSU and then try to boot...efectefly this is gonna clear CMOS ...worked for me few times. 

If you get it boot up go to bios and restore all to default values . BTW dont do the last one if you have RAID or something alike setup. 

Hope this helps . 

[Alex93]

6 hours ago, pcnoob27 said:

It is most likely your PSU since 3 mobos being dead is 0%

No its not i tested the psu on my old computer for few days ran fine

[Alex93]

5 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

That PSU does look fairly old...

The psu is perfectly fine

[pcnoob27]

then its cpu gpu or a other component, maybe you could remove them hand by hand and look if it boots up, without one of the parts. (you can only disable gpu if you have a built in gpu)

[Alex93]

6 hours ago, pcnoob27 said:

It is most likely your PSU since 3 mobos being dead is 0%

Ive tested the psu its fine . 

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Alex93 said:

The psu is perfectly fine

 

3 minutes ago, Alex93 said:

No its not i tested the psu on my old computer for few days ran fine

lol ok... for real you're just making it sound even more the issue is the PSU, even yourself knows it reason why you won't reveal which model it is and how old it is.

[Alex93]

9 hours ago, Eibe said:

What PSU do you have? How old is it?

Thermaltake 850 gold its as old as the pc only like 2 years old

[Alex93]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

lol ok... for real you're just making it sound even more the issue is the PSU, even yourself knows it reason why you won't reveal which model it is and how old it is.

Open your eyes i responded with that information . The psu ran perfectly fine for days on another pc 

[Alex93]

18 minutes ago, pcnoob27 said:

then its cpu gpu or a other component, maybe you could remove them hand by hand and look if it boots up, without one of the parts. (you can only disable gpu if you have a built in gpu)

Ill give it a try 

[Alex93]

4 hours ago, milanvipa said:

Check PSU outlets with ampmeter and see if voltages are right ...only thing that can cause this is PSU ...at least in 99% of the time. Had this issue on old pc. 

Also , what you could do is switch RAM sticks or try just with one stick in all slots ,  if some of them boots then i would recomend you to change RAM ...

Did you check socket pins ? Did you overclocked any of the components ? 

If everything else fails,  try this : Pull out power cable, take out mobo battery , wait 30 seconds , get it back to mobo , get power cable to PSU and then try to boot...efectefly this is gonna clear CMOS ...worked for me few times. 

If you get it boot up go to bios and restore all to default values . BTW dont do the last one if you have RAID or something alike setup. 

Hope this helps . 

Ive done some of those but ill go through the list and get back to you

[Alex93]

On 12/01/2018 at 10:36 PM, Epherandes said:

I had a similar problem around 3 years ago, where the PC would just shut down out of the blue and reboot. It got worse and worse, to the point, that it wouldn't start anymore.

 

Turns out, that my Thermaltake CPU cooler's backplate shorted the motherboard. The backplate of the cooler was full metal, with a thin layer of foam to prevent the metal plate to make contact with the motherboard. I might've overtighthened it, or it was a design flaw, but there was a contact, and that caused the motherboard to die after some time.

 

You could check the cooler out, otherwise it could be a powersupply problem.

 

Also I would recommend to use the least ammount of hardware to test the issue (remove 3 of the 4 RAM modules, try out different RAM slots with 1 stick, remove the graphics card, disconnect any hard drives/SSD-s, get a cheap powersupply from somewhere)

 Its not the cooler the problem started before i got it

[Alex93]

On 13/01/2018 at 2:43 AM, milanvipa said:

Check PSU outlets with ampmeter and see if voltages are right ...only thing that can cause this is PSU ...at least in 99% of the time. Had this issue on old pc. 

Also , what you could do is switch RAM sticks or try just with one stick in all slots ,  if some of them boots then i would recomend you to change RAM ...

Did you check socket pins ? Did you overclocked any of the components ? 

If everything else fails,  try this : Pull out power cable, take out mobo battery , wait 30 seconds , get it back to mobo , get power cable to PSU and then try to boot...efectefly this is gonna clear CMOS ...worked for me few times. 

If you get it boot up go to bios and restore all to default values . BTW dont do the last one if you have RAID or something alike setup. 

Hope this helps . 

Ive done some more trouble shooting i managed to power on the board randomly couple times but cant put my finger on anything but i did bump the 24pin connector while plugged into the board it turned on the pc so it seems psu might be faulty but it works fine on my other pc the paperclip test works but when i use a test light (circuit tester) it doesn't work on the broken computer but does on my other . So im confused ..

[milanvipa]

9 hours ago, Alex93 said:

Ive done some more trouble shooting i managed to power on the board randomly couple times but cant put my finger on anything but i did bump the 24pin connector while plugged into the board it turned on the pc so it seems psu might be faulty but it works fine on my other pc the paperclip test works but when i use a test light (circuit tester) it doesn't work on the broken computer but does on my other . So im confused ..

Well...looks like broken PSU . Switch PSU  and pray to the Gods in Valhala that your new MOBO is still alive, along with other components  Seems as legit PSU issue . 

[Phate.exe]

On 1/12/2018 at 10:37 AM, PCMasterDebater said:

As the others have said, 3 failures point to a bad PSU. Or it's the outlet you are plugged into.

Yup, bad power can play all kinds of havoc with your system.

 

Had a bear of a time troubleshooting my old roommate's FX9590/R9 290 machine (inb4 space heater comments), everything would work perfectly until the system would suddenly lock up requiring a hard reboot.  Couldn't find anything wrong with any component, software installation, etc and the problem persisted after swapping motherboards.

 

Moved it to my room for troubleshooting and it was rock solid.  A while later, after he moved out and my other roommate took his room, a UPS was plugged into that outlet, and we started noticing it clicking over to the backup frequently.

 

Could have saved a ton of headache, along with buying a cooler and motherboard for no reason.

[PCMasterDebater]

10 hours ago, Alex93 said:

 

Check everything Alex.

1 hour ago, Phate.exe said:

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Voltage can fluctuate from plug to plug in older homes. I've seen outlets pushing as low as 75v's up to 165v's out of the US standard 120v. Also, plugs that are daisy chained off of a GFI plugs can cause issues when the GFI plug begins to fail from age or being tripped to many times. This can also happen at the circuit breaker in the circuit breaker box.

 

I just had to replace a circuit breaker in my brand new $500,000 house due to a faulty breaker. Even new stuff can fail.

[Alex93]

11 hours ago, milanvipa said:

Well...looks like broken PSU . Switch PSU  and pray to the Gods in Valhala that your new MOBO is still alive, along with other components  Seems as legit PSU issue . 

Once i have the money ill buy a new psu and see how that goes ill stay away from thermaltake as thats what i currently got

[YoloSwag]

29 minutes ago, Alex93 said:

Once i have the money ill buy a new psu and see how that goes ill stay away from thermaltake as thats what i currently got

Check the PSU tier list here on LTT.

 

Also, a not so great PSU can cause lock ups on OC. Did you OC your processor? It might not have delivered well and caused spikes to your motherboard.

[Phate.exe]

15 hours ago, PCMasterDebater said:

Check everything Alex.

Voltage can fluctuate from plug to plug in older homes. I've seen outlets pushing as low as 75v's up to 165v's out of the US standard 120v. Also, plugs that are daisy chained off of a GFI plugs can cause issues when the GFI plug begins to fail from age or being tripped to many times. This can also happen at the circuit breaker in the circuit breaker box.

 

I just had to replace a circuit breaker in my brand new $500,000 house due to a faulty breaker. Even new stuff can fail.

We were renting, and got to learn all sorts of fun things about the electrical in that house.  Old post and tube wiring, shared metering (with neighbors that liked to leave all 500 watts of lighting switched on in the attic), a third set of circuit breakers nobody knew about, etc.

[Arika]

might be worth checking your standoffs as well, they can short your motherboard if not installed correctly