GTX 1070Ti vs GTX 1080 - RYZEN 5 1600.

[Infow27]

I'm confused between the GTX 1070TI AND GTX 1080

[Merp83]

1070ti becomes a stock 1080 when overclocked. When a 1080 becomes overclocked it becomes even better. I would get the 1070ti but look at some reviews/other forum posts..

[donalgodon]

I went with the 1070Ti on my Ryzen 1600 because it was a) cheaper b) more power efficient c) overclockable to virtually identical performance to the 1080 d) cooler and quieter.

[BluJay614]

1 minute ago, Merp83 said:

1070ti becomes a stock 1080 when overclocked. When a 1080 becomes overclocked it becomes even better. I would get the 1070ti but look at some reviews/other forum posts..

actually, it's not exactly that simple...... There have been some 1070ti s that have roughly matched an overclocked 1080.

[Ashiella]

6 minutes ago, BluJay614 said:

actually, it's not exactly that simple...... There have been some 1070ti s that have roughly matched an overclocked 1080.

My overclocked 970 touches tips with a slightly overclocked 980. So, i could imagine.

[i_build_nanosuits]

GTX 1080 is roughly 10% faster if both are at the same clockspeed...so if the price difference is more than 10 or 15% get the 1070ti

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/3943vs3603

[SACBALLZ]

I am new to this, many other have more knowledge on this than I do. But I did just buy a 1070ti so I feel i have at least a little to contribute.

 

As far as I have been able to tell, performance wise they are very similar cards with the 1080 just being slightly better all around. 1080 is going to have a slight bump in Cuda cores, and the ram is slightly faster(DDR5X vs DDR5). If you are trying to decide between the two, it's really going to come down what your local pricing is and what your hardware is, and what your future plans are in terms of hardware. Just as a reference for 1070ti performance, I am using a 2560x1440 165hz monitor with my 1070ti, an i5 7600k, and 16gb of ddr4 at 2400mhz. GPU and CPU have both been OC'd. In PUBG at 2560x1440 with ultra settings i am consistently getting 110-130 fps, with the occasional spike to over 140. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

1 minute ago, SACBALLZ said:

1080 is going to have a slight bump in Cuda cores, and also have slightly more RAM(10gb vs 8gb) and the ram is slightly faster(DDR5X vs DDR5).

they are both 8GB cards...

[SACBALLZ]

59 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

they are both 8GB cards...

ahh yes yes yes, I made a mistake and was looking at the memory speed which is 10gbps. Edited previous post. 1080ti has more RAM, correct?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Just now, SACBALLZ said:

ahh yes yes yes, I made a mistake and was looking at the memory speed which is 10gbps. Edited previous post. 1080ti has more RAM, correct?

yes GTX 1080ti has 11GB

[Darkseth]

1080 has around 11-12%~ more Performance.

 

Calculate for yourself, how much more it costs. ^^ Sometimes

 

1080 also has GDDR5X memory (5000 Mhz, instead of only 4000), thus it has a higher memory bandwidth. A 1070 ti will NEVER reach 1080 levels, because of that (and those 128 fewer cuda cores).

[ZenMonkey]

If you're gaming at 1080p, get a 1070. If you're gaming at 4k get a 1080 Ti. If you're gaming at 1440p... part of it comes down to silicon lottery and how well you can overclock each card, part of it comes down to the innate power of the card, and part of it comes down to price.

 

In theory, your chance of getting a good 1070 Ti is the same as a good 1080, so let's say overclockability cancels out.

The 1080 has more CUDA cores and GDDR5X, which will both offer greater performance.

The benchmarks I've seen tend to have a 5-10% difference in FPS at most, so compare prices and choose accordingly.

[Zeitec]

3 hours ago, BluJay614 said:

actually, it's not exactly that simple...... There have been some 1070ti s that have roughly matched an overclocked 1080.

That is true if you get a really good 1070ti and a really bad 1080, but the same can be said for cards like the Vega 56/64. In general, for average chips, 1070ti OC = 1080 stock, 1080 stock is a bit faster.

[BluJay614]

18 minutes ago, Zeitec said:

That is true if you get a really good 1070ti and a really bad 1080, but the same can be said for cards like the Vega 56/64. In general, for average chips, 1070ti OC = 1080 stock, 1080 stock is a bit faster.

You sure? Cause even reviewers like BitWit and Gamers Nexus where getting those kind of results.

[Princess Luna]

Get a 1070 Ti and overclock the shit out of it:

 

[Darkseth]

To be fair, OC won't change a thing.

 Instead of 80 fps, you might get 83-85 fps~. Not even close i beeing any "gamebreaker" or something.

 

If you go 1440p (but 144 Hz), even a 1080 ti is too weak. You can take all the GPU power you can get.

 

 

If you play 1080p, don't hesitate to go 1070 ti / 1080

[SACBALLZ]

I'm getting killer frame rates at 1440p with my 1070ti so I'm not sure why people would say even a 1080 is too weak for that res. is there something I am missing? Actual in game FPS, not synthetic benchmarks. Benchmarks are a different story, running Firestorm 1440p, depending on the actual test in the benchmark, i get about 50fps but I think what matters is actual in game frames.

[Darkseth]

What are "kiler frame rates"?

 

My 1080 only manages 80 fps~ in Witcher 3. Similar in Rise of the Tomb Raider.

How is that "killer fps"?

In Ghost Recon WIldlands, my GTX 1080, and now be brave, struggles to hit 45-50 fps~.

Everything of course, maxed out.

 

Literaly noone is talking about  Synthetic benchmarks.

 

Of course, setting everything on Low, i would get "killer frame rates" too. lol.

[SACBALLZ]

27 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

What are "kiler frame rates"?

 

My 1080 only manages 80 fps~ in Witcher 3. Similar in Rise of the Tomb Raider.

How is that "killer fps"?

In Ghost Recon WIldlands, my GTX 1080, and now be brave, struggles to hit 45-50 fps~.

Everything of course, maxed out.

 

Literaly noone is talking about  Synthetic benchmarks.

 

Of course, setting everything on Low, i would get "killer frame rates" too. lol.

I must not be playing as demanding graphics games then. I've been playing recently alot of PUBG, GTA, and I recently got MadMax because it was on Steam sale and i stay over 110fps with high to ultra settings. To be fair 80 is still pretty good IMO, but I just built my first rig and am coming off a laptop with a 960m and was happy to get over 30.

[Darkseth]

Yup, in GTA i can get high fps easy (well, still much below 100 if everything is maxed out). PUBG is CPU-bottlenecked, because of Crappy optimization.

 

But yea, GTX 1080 is great. You don't "need" 144+ fps in every game. i'm just saying, if you just set all settings to Ultra, even a 1080 ti can sweat alot ^^

[SACBALLZ]

2 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Yup, in GTA i can get high fps easy (well, still much below 100 if everything is maxed out). PUBG is CPU-bottlenecked, because of Crappy optimization.

 

But yea, GTX 1080 is great. You don't "need" 144+ fps in every game. i'm just saying, if you just set all settings to Ultra, even a 1080 ti can sweat alot ^^

Speaking of sweating alot, and this is to the OP as well, if low temps are a priority I'd stay away from MSI Duke cards. Thats what I have, and they are hot compared to most others with aftermarket coolers. They apparently used aluminum heat pipes in the cooler instead of copper and it causes them to stay pretty warm. 76c under full load with fans at full speed(has a 3 fan cooler), whereas the Gaming X MSI has a 2 fan cooler and stays significantly cooler, as do most others. 76 is still safe but id prefer it to be lower, i might take it apart and put some higher quality thermal paste and see if i can get any appreciable temp reduction. Duke is a good card otherwise, same PCB as the Gaming X. 

[ZenMonkey]

1 hour ago, Darkseth said:

To be fair, OC won't change a thing.

 Instead of 80 fps, you might get 83-85 fps~. Not even close i beeing any "gamebreaker" or something.

 

If you go 1440p (but 144 Hz), even a 1080 ti is too weak. You can take all the GPU power you can get.

 

 

If you play 1080p, don't hesitate to go 1070 ti / 1080

 

With the exception of PUBG, competitive games that benefit from ultra high refresh rates are optimized. A 1080 can most definitely do 144 FPS in 1440p. I hit 170 FPS in Overwatch and Destiny 2, and I lock my max refresh rate to my monitor's refresh rate so it might even be capable of higher.

[Darkseth]

Yup, but PUBG is horribly bad optimized (if you can call this utterly mess "optimized" at all). Watch the benchmarks / tests, at some point, it becomes CPU limit ed, and stronger GPUs don't do anything.

 

And Overwatch isn't really a demanding Game.

Destiny 2 is, and i promise you, you are NOT getting 170 fps in 1440p, if you use Ultra / High settings. ;-) Lower settings, sure. No problem. But 100% NOT ultra.