First Build Need Advice

[Pc Noob23]

So, as you can probably tell by the title this is my first time building a PC. Currently I have a 7 year old Mac Pro (mid 2010) that struggles to run Minecraft at 60fps... so I think it's time for a upgrade! Currently I have an overpriced and 1080p @60hz moniter but I plan to get a 1440p @144hz g sync moniter soon, as my new PC will be built around 1440p @144hz. So far I have this build plan

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cws4XH
 

I want to be able to play Overwatch on hopefully max settings at 144fps on my 2k moniter. My main question is do I need a 1080 ti? Also the reason I'm going with the Asus motherboard over the As rock z370 extreme 4 is tbh the Aurasync lighting and it's the same story with the Rog Strix 1080. But I have found a build that won't look as nice but uses a 1080 ti so I was just wondering if the ti is needed or if I could stick with the prettier option.

Here is the 1080 ti build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mNYMPs

 

Also the monster is set to 0 dollars because I'm going to get it later for $400 on Amazon. Thanks!

 

P.S I should stick with Intel instead of Ryzen right?
 

[Unimaginative Name]

Either build is fine. Intel is fine, but AMD is also an option, but if you will be mostly gaming, Intel will probably suit your needs better because of higher single threaded performance. I have a 1080 and can push 1440p, 144Hz at very high or ultra settings on most games. Personally, I would recommend a 1070ti because they are cheaper and with the right choice in card with a good cooler, you may be able to overclock them near 1080 territory.

 

I got my 1080 before the 1070ti was even a thing and I got it for $500 USD.           

[LienusLateTips]

I'd go for the 8400 build, but get a 1070 Ti and save a bit on the case.

[Moress]

If you do decide to go with the Unlocked Sku build, you will need a much beefier cooler than that Hyper 212 to overclock it.

[Egg-Roll]

How about best of both worlds? Power and RGB?

Extra cost is due to the 32GB RAM, plus i Couldn't find a RGB GPU... Well, not one that wouldn't push it to $2000+.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($171.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($443.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($794.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa C22 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($60.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1916.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-05 23:49 EST-0500

Edit: you can go with MSI as well to save a few bucks.

 

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If you do decide to go with the Unlocked Sku build, you will need a much beefier cooler than that Hyper 212 to overclock it.

It has 82 CFM rating... there is no issue there... 

[Pc Noob23]

10 hours ago, Unimaginative Name said:

Either build is fine. Intel is fine, but AMD is also an option, but if you will be mostly gaming, Intel will probably suit your needs better because of higher single threaded performance. I have a 1080 and can push 1440p, 144Hz at very high or ultra settings on most games. Personally, I would recommend a 1070ti because they are cheaper and with the right choice in card with a good cooler, you may be able to overclock them near 1080 territory.

 

I got my 1080 before the 1070ti was even a thing and I got it for $500 USD.           

Great! I think I'll stick with the 1080 because I just like having that little but more power.

[Pc Noob23]

10 hours ago, JDE said:

I'd go for the 8400 build, but get a 1070 Ti and save a bit on the case.

As I said to Unimaginative Name I think I want to stick with the 1080 for that little bit of extra power. As for the case I understand that it is a HUGE amount to spend on the case but I really want to have a flashy computer that stands out and lots of unicorn vomit (RGB) as this is my first build that I will probably stick with for like 4-5 years.

[Pc Noob23]

10 hours ago, Moress said:

If you do decide to go with the Unlocked Sku build, you will need a much beefier cooler than that Hyper 212 to overclock it.

Are you sure because Egg-Roll said that the current cooler is fine. Also, based on what people have said I don't think I'm going to be using the 8600l build tbh.

[Pc Noob23]

9 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

How about best of both worlds? Power and RGB?

Extra cost is due to the 32GB RAM, plus i Couldn't find a RGB GPU... Well, not one that wouldn't push it to $2000+.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($265.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($19.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($171.88 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($443.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($89.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($794.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa C22 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($60.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1916.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-05 23:49 EST-0500

Edit: you can go with MSI as well to save a few bucks.

 

It has 82 CFM rating... there is no issue there... 

This is kind of a dream build for me and I would definitely go for it if I could afford it but sadly I cannot. ~1500 is the absolute MOST I can cough up. One question, why the 32gb of RAM?

[PCMasterDebater]

58 minutes ago, Pc Noob23 said:

 

There is no need for 32gbs of ram; that sorta stuff in gaming is for bragging rights. You can get away with 8gb however 16gb is highly recommended!

 

Out of the two I'd buy #2 - 1080ti ftw

 

However:

 

This is what I would do

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hvYVtJ

Buy this now; down the road get a better case and a second stick of ram to make 16gb's.

The extra CPU and GPU power is invaluable.

[Egg-Roll]

1 minute ago, PCMasterDebater said:

There is no need for 32gbs of ram; that sorta stuff in gaming is for bragging rights. You can get away with 8gb however 16gb is highly recommended!

2 minutes ago, Pc Noob23 said:

This is kind of a dream build for me and I would definitely go for it if I could afford it but sadly I cannot. ~1500 is the absolute MOST I can cough up. One question, why the 32gb of RAM?

8GB is the absolute minimum 16 is average 32 is becoming standard. I often go over 16GB, I also have a 32GB pagefile, but I'm a extreme case.

Really depends on what they use their computer for, for only gaming yes 16GB is fine but the second you touch video/photo (like adobe products) editing, Chrome, more is better.

 

For the price I was going for the amount in the 1080 ti setup.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bYwTvV $1500 has a 1070 Ti no RGB 32 GB RAM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9Fqxhq $1500 has a 1080 Ti no RGB 16 GB RAM (can add more with 2 empty slots)

I should note, Thermaltake makes great cases, PSU idk... Last i read a review from them the fan either died or was noisy, but that was 5 years ago.

 

If you want RGB there are ways of doing it via "china" from ebay  shouldn't cost more than $30 for the whole case.

47 minutes ago, Pc Noob23 said:

Are you sure because Egg-Roll said that the current cooler is fine. Also, based on what people have said I don't think I'm going to be using the 8600l build tbh.

I say it's fine because i got a P4 651 to OC to 4.8GHz on this thing  When it hit 5.x it couldn't handle it, post but no boot (windows issue Ubuntu could care less).

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBmxFT/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rrh6v213pkr1

https://valid.x86.fr/show_oc.php?id=2589199

It now sits on my 6600k

 

I forget where but Linus was talking about the fins on the air CPUs where thermal dynamics came into play and why smaller fins would dissipate more.

Reason why both my fan and the 212 EVO are good is due to how close the fan is to the heat source. For water the cool liquid might have to pass the GPU which during gaming can get warm, even tho they are insulated they still consume the external heat, that 0.5 increase still makes the cpu 0.5 hotter possibly more. Only way of battling this is custom liquid cooling.

[LienusLateTips]

3 hours ago, Pc Noob23 said:

As I said to Unimaginative Name I think I want to stick with the 1080 for that little bit of extra power. As for the case I understand that it is a HUGE amount to spend on the case but I really want to have a flashy computer that stands out and lots of unicorn vomit (RGB) as this is my first build that I will probably stick with for like 4-5 years.

Go for the 1080 then. If you want the unicorn vomit and tempered glass and flashiness, consider the ThermalTake View 21.

[Egg-Roll]

13 minutes ago, JDE said:

Go for the 1080 then. If you want the unicorn vomit and tempered glass and flashiness, consider the ThermalTake View 21.

Yea, I dont think that one actually comes with a single RGB fan... Looks clean however.

 

The RGB case I provided however seems like it's actually better w/o RGB lol... has 4 settings or something for the RGB, with no alt settings...

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Egg-Roll said:

Yea, I dont think that one actually comes with a single RGB fan... Looks clean however.

 

The RGB case I provided however seems like it's actually better w/o RGB lol... has 4 settings or something for the RGB, with no alt settings...

It doesn't... but RGB fans are cheap

[Egg-Roll]

9 minutes ago, JDE said:

It doesn't... but RGB fans are cheap

Depends on the model, instead of being unicorn vomit, it might be your vomit... But yea, USA seems to have better pricing and options than us Canadians... The biggest downside is the additional costs associated with it, But i do like that case you gave

The case I gave is a perfect example of a nice looking picture but if seen in person it quickly becomes WTF.

[Pc Noob23]

12 hours ago, JDE said:

Go for the 1080 then. If you want the unicorn vomit and tempered glass and flashiness, consider the ThermalTake View 21.

Ok, considered. Opinion: ugly af. No offense ? but I think I’ll stick with the 570X I appreciate it though