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[Alphabet]

ok so i bought a 1070 sc and it didnt really give me more fps but they are more consistent. i have a mobo that only has pcie 2.0 and the graphics card is a 3.0. would i get more fps if i got a mobo with 3.0 or am i bottlenecking.

 

this is my spec : 

cpu : amd fx 6300 6 core

graphics card : gtx 760

Mobo :  MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

psu : i forgot wich 1 exactly but its like a 700+w

ram : just regular ddr3 6gb

monitor: asus 144hz

[WoodenMarker]

The problem is probably your cpu holding your performance back in games and not your motherboard. Pcie 2.0 is plenty already.

 

Moved to PC Gaming.

[stefanDB]

the PCIe port is probably not the problem, but most likely your CPU is. I don't know what resolution you are gaming at but an FX 6300 isn't very good in combination with a 1070

[michaelocarroll007]

1 minute ago, Alphabet said:

ok so i bought a 1070 sc and it didnt really give me more fps but they are more consistent. i have a mobo that only has pcie 2.0 and the graphics card is a 3.0. would i get more fps if i got a mobo with 3.0 or am i bottlenecking.

 

this is my spec : 

cpu : amd fx 6300 6 core

graphics card : gtx 760

Mobo :  MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) AM3+ AMD 760G + SB710 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

psu : i forgot wich 1 exactly but its like a 700+w

ram : just regular ddr3 6gb

monitor: asus 144hz

 the CPU is very bad for gaming and cant keep up with a 1070. a 1050ti or 10603gb is as fast as you would really want to go with that CPU. 

 

Right now all you can do is overclock the CPU as far as you can then when you get a chance change out the CPU to something newer even a Cheap Ryzen 1200 would give a nice bump but since you have a 1070 id go for a bit better then that. 

[Alphabet]

On 12/19/2017 at 2:15 PM, stefanDB said:

the PCIe port is probably not the problem, but most likely your CPU is. I don't know what resolution you are gaming at but an FX 6300 isn't very good in combination with a 1070

i usually game at 1080 and go down. im not really into the 4k res and other crazy things lol

 

On 12/19/2017 at 2:15 PM, michaelocarroll007 said:

 the CPU is very bad for gaming and cant keep up with a 1070. a 1050ti or 10603gb is as fast as you would really want to go with that CPU. 

 

Right now all you can do is overclock the CPU as far as you can then when you get a chance change out the CPU to something newer even a Cheap Ryzen 1200 would give a nice bump but since you have a 1070 id go for a bit better then that. 

well i was just wondering coz im bout to buy like an i5 (socket lga1151 i belive so i can upgrade to i7 later on) and a new mobo so i was trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone kinda thing

[Crunchy Dragon]

8 minutes ago, michaelocarroll007 said:

overclock the CPU as far as you can

Which probably won't be far, especially with the stock cooler.

 

7 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

well i was just wondering coz im bout to buy like an i5 (socket lga1151 i belive so i can upgrade to i7 later on) and a new mobo so i was trying to kill 2 birds with 1 stone kinda thing

If you can get an older but still recent i5 and motherboard combo you should be good to go, it'll be cheaper if you can find something on the Z97 platform so you can reuse your DDR3 memory

[Alphabet]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Which probably won't be far, especially with the stock cooler.

 

If you can get an older but still recent i5 and motherboard combo you should be good to go, it'll be cheaper if you can find something on the Z97 platform so you can reuse your DDR3 memory

oooo ur rioght. thanks for pointing tht out. i was just wondering wat is a good i5 and mobo that i can also upgrade maybe to a i7 wich i dnt think i really need tht but thats ideal

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Alphabet said:

oooo ur rioght. thanks for pointing tht out. i just wondering wat is a god i5 and mobo that i can also upgrade maybe to a i7 wich i dnt think i really need tht but thats ideal

If you can get an i5-4690K and pretty much any Z97 board, you'll be all set. Or even as far back as an i5-4670K on the Z87 platform would work.

[Alphabet]

4 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If you can get an i5-4690K and pretty much any Z97 board, you'll be all set. Or even as far back as an i5-4670K on the Z87 platform would work.

im also not really into overclocking soo idk wat i would do. how much is 8gb of ddr4 or mayb 16gb?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Alphabet said:

im also not really into overclocking soo idk wat i would do. how much is 8gb of ddr4 or mayb 16gb?

8Gb DDR4 is in the region of 80 USD, 16Gb is anywhere above 120 USD.

 

Alternatively, you could jump to Skylake with a board that supports DDR3 memory

[Alphabet]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

8Gb DDR4 is in the region of 80 USD, 16Gb is anywhere above 120 USD.

 

Alternatively, you could jump to Skylake with a board that supports DDR3 memory

skylake supports ddr3 and ddr4? coz if 16gb of ddr4 is only like 120 then i could save for it easily

[Crunchy Dragon]

On 12/19/2017 at 2:34 PM, Alphabet said:

im also not really into overclocking soo idk wat i would do. how much is 8gb of ddr4 or mayb 16gb?

You also don't have to overclock just because you're on a platform that lets you. The 4690K is still a good CPU at stock speeds, but if you ever needed to overclock you can easily get to 4.0-4.4Ghz with a halfway decent air cooler.

 

On 12/19/2017 at 2:37 PM, Alphabet said:

skylake supports ddr3 and ddr4? coz if 16gb of ddr4 is only like 120 then i could save for it easily

Yes. It will be cheaper to reuse your current memory unless you decide to sell your CPU, mobo, and RAM to help offset the cost of your upgrade.

[Alphabet]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

You also don't have to overclock just because you're on a platform that lets you. The 4690K is still a good CPU at stock speeds, but if you ever needed to overclock you can easily get to 4.0-4.4Ghz with a halfway decent air cooler.

ok so what would u do in this situation. my budget for cpu and mobo is like 350$ ish.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Alphabet said:

ok so what would u do in this situation. my budget for cpu and mobo is like 350$ ish.

Sell your FX 6300 with the motherboard and memory and buy a Ryzen 3 with a B350 board and probably 8Gb DDR4 unless you game with a billion Chrome tabs in the background.

[Alphabet]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Sell your FX 6300 with the motherboard and memory and buy a Ryzen 3 with a B350 board and probably 8Gb DDR4 unless you game with a billion Chrome tabs in the background.

ok thanks for ur advice. i know i asked wat would u do but i dont really want to go to amd. idk if i can trust it lol. ive seen alot of reviews about ryzen and they are all really good but i really want to stick with intel just because i know that they are good. i dont know i debate it alot in my head lol.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Alphabet said:

ok thanks for ur advice. i know i asked wat would u do but i dont really want to go to amd. idk if i can trust it lol. ive seen alot of reviews about ryzen and they are all really good but i really want to stick with intel just because i know that they are good. i dont know i debate it alot in my head lol.

I've been doing that recently too, Ryzen stacks up to Intel pretty well though and a Ryzen 3 is likely going to outperform any older Intel CPU without an overclock that isn't some form of Core i7.

[Alphabet]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I've been doing that recently too, Ryzen stacks up to Intel pretty well though and a Ryzen 3 is likely going to outperform any older Intel CPU without an overclock that isn't some form of Core i7.

hmm idk lol u have good points that imma take into consideration. this was my ideal build https://gyazo.com/f17627bbd28f174e868f115f06a4a3d7. i have the gpu. im getting the ssd for free from sum1 ik and i wasnt going to get the k version simply because i dont really want to oc and i would need to buy aftermarket cooler wich a evo is only like 30$ and the build can wait till i get enough money for ram.

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

hmm idk lol u have good points that imma take into consideration. this was my ideal build https://gyazo.com/f17627bbd28f174e868f115f06a4a3d7. i have the gpu. im getting the ssd for free from sum1 ik and i wasnt going to get the k version simply because i dont really want to oc and i would need to buy aftermarket cooler wich a evo is only like 30$ and the build can wait till i get enough money for ram.

Get the K version, even if you're not going to overclock it. You'll see a benefit over the 6500 as the 6600K has higher base/boost speeds. The Hyper 212 Evo would be a good cooler.

[Alphabet]

6 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Get the K version, even if you're not going to overclock it. You'll see a benefit over the 6500 as the 6600K has higher base/boost speeds. The Hyper 212 Evo would be a good cooler.

ok thanks. ill probably just go with the i5 and tht mobo or something close to it and upgrade ram

[dizmo]

The i3 8100 is basically the same as the 7500 but a lot cheaper, aside from needing a Z series board.

[Alphabet]

i want a cpu that i wont really need to upgrade for a good bit

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, valdyrgramr said:

Intel is apparently releasing more chipsets in Q1, no exact date.

Yeah that's why I didn't bother recommending that. Wish they'd just give a release date, I'd be more inclined to wait myself. Now I'm looking at used Ryzen options.

[Alphabet]

Just now, dizmo said:

Yeah that's why I didn't bother recommending that. Wish they'd just give a release date, I'd be more inclined to wait myself. Now I'm looking at used Ryzen options.

i have roughly 300$ to spend on a good cpu and mobo with ram. i was wondering if that would suffice 

[Crunchy Dragon]

You're seeing a bottleneck on your CPU and PCIe slot, PCIe 3.0 runs at twice the speed of PCIe 2.0

 

11 minutes ago, Alphabet said:

i have roughly 300$ to spend on a good cpu and mobo with ram. i was wondering if that would suffice 

Look into a used Ryzen or Intel CPU/RAM/Mobo combo

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Alphabet said:

i have roughly 300$ to spend on a good cpu and mobo with ram. i was wondering if that would suffice 

You should be able to get an Intel 8400 build for that, or an AMD Ryzen 1600x, both of which would be better.